Debian Bug report logs - #953376
src:mailman: Depends/Build-Depends on cruft package python-dnspython

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Package: src:mailman; Maintainer for src:mailman is Mailman for Debian <pkg-mailman-hackers@lists.alioth.debian.org>;

Reported by: Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com>

Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2020 18:03:01 UTC

Severity: serious

Tags: bullseye, sid

Found in version mailman/1:2.1.29-1

Fixed in version 1:2.1.29-1+rm

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Mailman for Debian <pkg-mailman-hackers@lists.alioth.debian.org>:
Bug#953376; Package src:mailman. (Sun, 08 Mar 2020 18:03:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com>:
New Bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to Mailman for Debian <pkg-mailman-hackers@lists.alioth.debian.org>. (Sun, 08 Mar 2020 18:03:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: src:mailman: Depends/Build-Depends on cruft package python-dnspython
Date: Sun, 08 Mar 2020 14:01:17 -0400
Package: src:mailman
Version: 1:2.1.29-1
Severity: serious
Justification: Policy 2.2.1

This package Depends/Build-Depends on python-dnspython which is an NBS cruft
package.  Please update your package to use python3-dnspython, which is still
provided (if the package will be ported to python3).

Scott K



Added tag(s) sid and bullseye. Request was from Andreas Beckmann <anbe@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Tue, 10 Mar 2020 10:39:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Mailman for Debian <pkg-mailman-hackers@lists.alioth.debian.org>:
Bug#953376; Package src:mailman. (Tue, 21 Apr 2020 13:15:02 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to "Thijs Kinkhorst" <thijs@debian.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Mailman for Debian <pkg-mailman-hackers@lists.alioth.debian.org>. (Tue, 21 Apr 2020 13:15:02 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #12 received at 953376@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Thijs Kinkhorst" <thijs@debian.org>
To: "Scott Kitterman" <debian@kitterman.com>, 953376@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Mailman 2 will be removed from Debian
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 15:08:37 +0200
Hi,

On Sun, March 8, 2020 20:01, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> Package: src:mailman
> Version: 1:2.1.29-1
> Severity: serious
> Justification: Policy 2.2.1
>
> This package Depends/Build-Depends on python-dnspython which is an NBS
> cruft package.  Please update your package to use python3-dnspython, which
> is still provided (if the package will be ported to python3).

Mailman 2.1.x is Python 2 only.

Upstream has explicitly indicated there will be no effort to port it to
Python 3:
https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2019-April/084333.html

So it seems the time has come to remove Mailman 2 from Debian, and let
people migrate to Mailman 3.


Cheers,
Thijs



Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Mailman for Debian <pkg-mailman-hackers@lists.alioth.debian.org>:
Bug#953376; Package src:mailman. (Tue, 21 Apr 2020 16:06:02 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Mailman for Debian <pkg-mailman-hackers@lists.alioth.debian.org>. (Tue, 21 Apr 2020 16:06:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #17 received at 953376@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Andrew Hodgson <andrew@hodgson.io>
To: Thijs Kinkhorst <thijs@debian.org>, "953376@bugs.debian.org" <953376@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: RE: [Pkg-mailman-hackers] Bug#953376: Mailman 2 will be removed from Debian
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 16:02:02 +0000
Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
>On Sun, March 8, 2020 20:01, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> Package: src:mailman
>> Version: 1:2.1.29-1
>> Severity: serious
>> Justification: Policy 2.2.1
>>
>> This package Depends/Build-Depends on python-dnspython which is an NBS 
>> cruft package.  Please update your package to use python3-dnspython, 
>> which is still provided (if the package will be ported to python3).

>Mailman 2.1.x is Python 2 only.

>Upstream has explicitly indicated there will be no effort to port it to Python 3:
>https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2019-April/084333.html

>So it seems the time has come to remove Mailman 2 from Debian, and let people migrate to Mailman 3.

I thought this may be the case. I was looking at the possibility of whether I could build 2.1.30 even if it was to go in backports until the eventual removal of the package on the next Debian version, but would this removal cause problems for this?

Andrew.

Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Mailman for Debian <pkg-mailman-hackers@lists.alioth.debian.org>:
Bug#953376; Package src:mailman. (Tue, 21 Apr 2020 18:03:02 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to "Thijs Kinkhorst" <thijs@debian.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Mailman for Debian <pkg-mailman-hackers@lists.alioth.debian.org>. (Tue, 21 Apr 2020 18:03:02 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #22 received at 953376@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Thijs Kinkhorst" <thijs@debian.org>
To: "Andrew Hodgson" <andrew@hodgson.io>
Cc: "953376@bugs.debian.org" <953376@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: RE: [Pkg-mailman-hackers] Bug#953376: Mailman 2 will be removed from Debian
Date: Tue, 21 Apr 2020 20:00:38 +0200
On Tue, April 21, 2020 18:02, Andrew Hodgson wrote:
> Thijs Kinkhorst wrote:
>>On Sun, March 8, 2020 20:01, Scott Kitterman wrote:
>>> Package: src:mailman
>>> Version: 1:2.1.29-1
>>> Severity: serious
>>> Justification: Policy 2.2.1
>>>
>>> This package Depends/Build-Depends on python-dnspython which is an NBS
>>> cruft package.  Please update your package to use python3-dnspython,
>>> which is still provided (if the package will be ported to python3).
>
>>Mailman 2.1.x is Python 2 only.
>
>>Upstream has explicitly indicated there will be no effort to port it to
>> Python 3:
>>https://mail.python.org/pipermail/mailman-users/2019-April/084333.html
>
>>So it seems the time has come to remove Mailman 2 from Debian, and let
>> people migrate to Mailman 3.
>
> I thought this may be the case. I was looking at the possibility of
> whether I could build 2.1.30 even if it was to go in backports until the
> eventual removal of the package on the next Debian version, but would this
> removal cause problems for this?

This is indeed not possible, because Backports requires package versions
to come from testing and mailman is already no longer in testing.

Continued support for any mailman 2.x packages needs to be outside of the
Debian archive since Debian will have removed Python 2 both from stable
and testing/unstable starting from the next release.


Cheers,
Thijs

Cheers,
Thijs



Reply sent to Debian FTP Masters <ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org>:
You have taken responsibility. (Sat, 02 May 2020 21:04:07 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Notification sent to Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com>:
Bug acknowledged by developer. (Sat, 02 May 2020 21:04:07 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #27 received at 953376-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

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Cc: mailman@packages.debian.org
Subject: Bug#959435: Removed package(s) from unstable
Date: Sat, 02 May 2020 21:01:59 +0000
Version: 1:2.1.29-1+rm

Dear submitter,

as the package mailman has just been removed from the Debian archive
unstable we hereby close the associated bug reports.  We are sorry
that we couldn't deal with your issue properly.

For details on the removal, please see https://bugs.debian.org/959435

The version of this package that was in Debian prior to this removal
can still be found using http://snapshot.debian.org/.

Please note that the changes have been done on the master archive and
will not propagate to any mirrors until the next dinstall run at the
earliest.

This message was generated automatically; if you believe that there is
a problem with it please contact the archive administrators by mailing
ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Scott Kitterman (the ftpmaster behind the curtain)



Bug archived. Request was from Debbugs Internal Request <owner@bugs.debian.org> to internal_control@bugs.debian.org. (Sun, 31 May 2020 07:29:45 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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