Debian Bug report logs - #863031
RM: nikola -- RoQA; unmaintained, buggy, outdated

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: RM: nikola/7.6.4-1

Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 15:04:00 +0200

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Package: release.debian.org
Severity: normal
User: release.debian.org@packages.debian.org
Usertags: rm

The current version in stable is almost 2 years old. Bug#801796 has
been tracking the requests for new versions to be packaged. However,
the maintainer hasn't engaged. Upstream co-maintainer Chris Warrick
has made it clear in #801796 that they'd rather not have nikola in
Debian, than an ancient version that annoys people and causes them
spurious bug reports.

Given how nobody has put in any work on nikola in almost 2 years,
I think we should have the decency to remove the package from
stretch and sid before the release.

nikola has no reverse dependencies, so…

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 9.0
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64
 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 4.9.0-3-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_NZ, LC_CTYPE=en_NZ.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)


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: :'  :  proud Debian developer
`. `'`   http://people.debian.org/~madduck
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Message #10 received at 863031@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Chris Warrick <kwpolska@gmail.com>

To: 863031@bugs.debian.org, martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org>, dererk@debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#863031: RM: nikola/7.6.4-1

Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 15:44:53 +0200

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I confirm that the current situation is undesirable to us. There were
attempts by other Debian devs to fix this (last in January), but nothing
changed. Having to say that the package is unsupported every once in a
while gets tiring quickly.

Since there aren't that many users, and a manual install with pip is easy
to do, dropping this package won't be much of a problem in my opinion. (Of
course, if there is a substantial possibility of getting something more
modern in Debian repos, that would be even better.)

-- 
Chris Warrick <https://chriswarrick.com/>

On 20 May 2017 15:06, "martin f krafft" <madduck@debian.org> wrote:

> Package: release.debian.org
> Severity: normal
> User: release.debian.org@packages.debian.org
> Usertags: rm
>
> The current version in stable is almost 2 years old. Bug#801796 has
> been tracking the requests for new versions to be packaged. However,
> the maintainer hasn't engaged. Upstream co-maintainer Chris Warrick
> has made it clear in #801796 that they'd rather not have nikola in
> Debian, than an ancient version that annoys people and causes them
> spurious bug reports.
>
> Given how nobody has put in any work on nikola in almost 2 years,
> I think we should have the decency to remove the package from
> stretch and sid before the release.
>
> nikola has no reverse dependencies, so…
>
> -- System Information:
> Debian Release: 9.0
>   APT prefers unstable
>   APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
> Architecture: amd64
>  (x86_64)
> Foreign Architectures: i386
>
> Kernel: Linux 4.9.0-3-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
> Locale: LANG=en_NZ, LC_CTYPE=en_NZ.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
> Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
> Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
>
>
> --
>  .''`.   martin f. krafft <madduck@d.o> @martinkrafft
> : :'  :  proud Debian developer
> `. `'`   http://people.debian.org/~madduck
>   `-  Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems
>

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Message #15 received at 863031@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk>

To: martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org>, 863031@bugs.debian.org

Cc: ftp.debian.org@packages.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#863031: RM: nikola/7.6.4-1

Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 14:52:46 +0100

Control: reassign -1 ftp.debian.org

On Sat, 2017-05-20 at 15:04 +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> The current version in stable is almost 2 years old. Bug#801796 has
> been tracking the requests for new versions to be packaged. However,
> the maintainer hasn't engaged. Upstream co-maintainer Chris Warrick
> has made it clear in #801796 that they'd rather not have nikola in
> Debian, than an ancient version that annoys people and causes them
> spurious bug reports.
> 
> Given how nobody has put in any work on nikola in almost 2 years,
> I think we should have the decency to remove the package from
> stretch and sid before the release.
> 
> nikola has no reverse dependencies, so…

As this request includes removal from unstable, it needs to be handled
by the ftp team; re-assigning.

Regards,

Adam

Message #22 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Dererk <dererk@debian.org>

To: martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org>, 863031@bugs.debian.org, Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>, Agustin Henze <tin@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#863031: RM: nikola/7.6.4-1

Date: Sat, 20 May 2017 11:22:26 -0300

Dear reader,

Just to clarify on this matter and to serve as a confirmation, there has
been several attempts to upload most modern versions of this packages
(the collab-maint doesn't lie).

Unfortunately, we faced several times upload after upload, by some way
or the other, crashing over the current JS & CSS Debian's archive
policy, around several dozens symlinks (literally speaking), that made
totally both impractical and a total f^$%# mess to maintain.

Nikola also is a fast evolving software that usually force us (the
maintainers of nikola), to upload a couple of new dependences after new
upstream release. This is totally awesome from the standpoint of
upstream, since they reuse lots of code from other projects, but also
render maintaining nikola on debian a little bit more lag behind too.

We both (tin@ and myself) support RM of nikola, maybe in the future
efforts would match, currently thats not the case.


Cheers,

Dererk

On behalf of nikola maintainers

PS: sucks to have been delaying this so much, my sincere apologies.


On 20/05/17 10:04, martin f krafft wrote:
> Package: release.debian.org
> Severity: normal
> User: release.debian.org@packages.debian.org
> Usertags: rm
>
> The current version in stable is almost 2 years old. Bug#801796 has
> been tracking the requests for new versions to be packaged. However,
> the maintainer hasn't engaged. Upstream co-maintainer Chris Warrick
> has made it clear in #801796 that they'd rather not have nikola in
> Debian, than an ancient version that annoys people and causes them
> spurious bug reports.
>
> Given how nobody has put in any work on nikola in almost 2 years,
> I think we should have the decency to remove the package from
> stretch and sid before the release.
>
> nikola has no reverse dependencies, so…
>
> -- System Information:
> Debian Release: 9.0
>   APT prefers unstable
>   APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
> Architecture: amd64
>  (x86_64)
> Foreign Architectures: i386
>
> Kernel: Linux 4.9.0-3-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
> Locale: LANG=en_NZ, LC_CTYPE=en_NZ.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
> Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
> Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)
>
>

-- 
There's nothing in the middle of the road but yellow stripes and dead
armadillos.
		-- Jim Hightower, Texas Agricultural Commissioner

Message #34 received at 863031-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Debian FTP Masters <ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org>

To: 863031-close@bugs.debian.org

Cc: nikola@packages.debian.org, nikola@packages.qa.debian.org

Subject: Bug#863031: Removed package(s) from unstable

Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2017 16:27:20 +0000

We believe that the bug you reported is now fixed; the following
package(s) have been removed from unstable:

    nikola |    7.6.4-1 | source, all

------------------- Reason -------------------
RoQA; unmaintained, buggy, outdated
----------------------------------------------

Note that the package(s) have simply been removed from the tag
database and may (or may not) still be in the pool; this is not a bug.
The package(s) will be physically removed automatically when no suite
references them (and in the case of source, when no binary references
it).  Please also remember that the changes have been done on the
master archive and will not propagate to any mirrors until the next
dinstall run at the earliest.

Packages are usually not removed from testing by hand. Testing tracks
unstable and will automatically remove packages which were removed
from unstable when removing them from testing causes no dependency
problems. The release team can force a removal from testing if it is
really needed, please contact them if this should be the case.

We try to close bugs which have been reported against this package
automatically. But please check all old bugs, if they were closed
correctly or should have been re-assigned to another package.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 863031@bugs.debian.org.

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