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debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>

To: submit@bugs.debian.org

Subject: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2016 08:47:21 +0200

Package: debootstrap
Version: 1.0.83

As mentioned earlier, I would like to see --merged-usr enabled by
default for Debian Stretch.  The last discussion on -devel@[1] was quite
positive; I had some additional positive feedback on IRC.

I'm not aware of any regressions so far, except for having forgotten to
add "jessie-kfreebsd" to the blacklist (a list of older releases that
don't support merged-/usr) and debootstrap 1.0.83 failing to bootstrap
squeeze[2].  Both are fixed in my changes targeted at 1.0.84[3].

So I would like to switch the default in debootstrap sooner rather than
later to give time to find some more bugs.  With this change, the
currently known bugs[4] should also be raised to "serious", but I don't
think any of them should be a blocker.

Ansgar

  [1] <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/09/msg00269.html>
  [2] <https://bugs.debian.org/838388>
  [3] <https://github.com/aburch/debootstrap>
  [4] <https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=usrmerge;users=md@linux.it>

Message #12 received at 839046-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

To: 839046-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#839046: fixed in debootstrap 1.0.85

Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 19:49:01 +0000

Source: debootstrap
Source-Version: 1.0.85

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
debootstrap, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 839046@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> (supplier of updated debootstrap package)

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Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 20:22:49 +0200
Source: debootstrap
Binary: debootstrap debootstrap-udeb
Architecture: source
Version: 1.0.85
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: medium
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team <debian-boot@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>
Description:
 debootstrap - Bootstrap a basic Debian system
 debootstrap-udeb - Bootstrap the Debian system (udeb)
Closes: 548880 792734 825034 838388 839046
Changes:
 debootstrap (1.0.85) unstable; urgency=medium
 .
   [ Julien Cristau ]
   * Add support for downloading and validating InRelease files, by splitting
     up detached signature from signed data.
   * Switch default mirror to deb.debian.org.
 .
   [ Colin Watson ]
   * Add (Ubuntu) zesty as a symlink to gutsy.
 .
   [ Ansgar Burchardt ]
   * Add jessie-kfreebsd to merged-/usr blacklist.
   * No longer Build-Depend on makedev. The code using it was already
     removed in debootstrap 1.0.82.
   * Do not use `tar -k` for older releases which might have file
     conflicts between the packages to be installed. (Closes: #838388)
   * Error out when seeing short options. (Closes: #548880)
   * Add oldoldstable -> sid script symlink. (Closes: #792734)
   * Add buster -> sid and bullseye -> sid script symlinks.
   * Only unpack and configure the base system when there are actually
     packages to install. (Closes: #825034)
   * debootstrap.8: Use stretch instead of wheezy in examples.
 .
   [ Marco d'Itri ]
   * Enable merged-/usr by default. (Closes: #839046)
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Message #21 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de>

To: 839046@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: apt-listchanges: changelogs for tglase-nb.lan.tarent.de

Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 11:13:14 +0200 (CEST)

On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, root wrote:

> debootstrap (1.0.85) unstable; urgency=medium

>   * Enable merged-/usr by default. (Closes: #839046)

This leaves the question: how can we install stretch
without usrmerge?

Thanks,
//mirabilos
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Message #26 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri)

To: Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de>, 839046@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: apt-listchanges: changelogs for tglase-nb.lan.tarent.de

Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 11:24:31 +0200

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On Oct 24, Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> wrote:

> This leaves the question: how can we install stretch
> without usrmerge?
By using the appropriate debootstrap switch.
But the real question would be: why would you want to do that?

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ciao,
Marco

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Message #31 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de>

To: Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>

Cc: 839046@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: apt-listchanges: changelogs for tglase-nb.lan.tarent.de

Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 14:29:51 +0200 (CEST)

On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, Marco d'Itri wrote:

> On Oct 24, Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> wrote:
> 
> > This leaves the question: how can we install stretch
> > without usrmerge?

> By using the appropriate debootstrap switch.

In d-i?

> But the real question would be: why would you want to do that?

Umm, perhaps because I prefer my system to behave in a way
consistent with previous and other systems, and because of
personal preference, and because you kinda indicated that
you would *not* force Debian to require a merged /usr and
I kinda wish to cash in that promise.

Thanks,
//mirabilos
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Message #36 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>

To: Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de>

Cc: 839046@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: apt-listchanges: changelogs for tglase-nb.lan.tarent.de

Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 14:33:02 +0200

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On Oct 24, Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de> wrote:

> > By using the appropriate debootstrap switch.
> In d-i?
A corresponding switch has not been implemented in d-i, but maybe you 
can persuade the d-i maintainers to accept a patch.

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ciao,
Marco

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Message #45 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

To: 839046@bugs.debian.org, Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>

Subject: Re: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 01:35:07 +0100

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Control: found -1 1.0.87

Hi there!

On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 08:47:21 +0200 Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>
wrote:
> Package: debootstrap
> Version: 1.0.83
> 
> As mentioned earlier, I would like to see --merged-usr enabled by
> default for Debian Stretch.  The last discussion on -devel@[1] was quite
> positive; I had some additional positive feedback on IRC.
> 
> I'm not aware of any regressions so far, except for having forgotten to
> add "jessie-kfreebsd" to the blacklist (a list of older releases that
> don't support merged-/usr) and debootstrap 1.0.83 failing to bootstrap
> squeeze[2].  Both are fixed in my changes targeted at 1.0.84[3].
> 
> So I would like to switch the default in debootstrap sooner rather than
> later to give time to find some more bugs.  With this change, the
> currently known bugs[4] should also be raised to "serious", but I don't
> think any of them should be a blocker.
> 
> Ansgar
> 
>   [1] <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/09/msg00269.html>
>   [2] <https://bugs.debian.org/838388>
>   [3] <https://github.com/aburch/debootstrap>
>   [4] <https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=usrmerge;users=md@linux.it>


This change was reverted in 1.0.87 as dpkg-shlibdeps didn't cope
properly with a merged-usr system. Thus reopening this bug report for
that version.

The dpkg-shlibdeps bugs has been fixed [1] in the mean time. So it would
be great if this bug report could be re-considered.

Regards,
Michael


[1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=843073

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Message #52 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

To: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>, 839046@bugs.debian.org, Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 09:21:46 +0100

On 12/20/2016 01:35 AM, Michael Biebl wrote:
> Control: found -1 1.0.87
> 
> Hi there!
> 
> On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 08:47:21 +0200 Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>
> wrote:
>> Package: debootstrap
>> Version: 1.0.83
>>
>> As mentioned earlier, I would like to see --merged-usr enabled by
>> default for Debian Stretch.  The last discussion on -devel@[1] was quite
>> positive; I had some additional positive feedback on IRC.
>>
>> I'm not aware of any regressions so far, except for having forgotten to
>> add "jessie-kfreebsd" to the blacklist (a list of older releases that
>> don't support merged-/usr) and debootstrap 1.0.83 failing to bootstrap
>> squeeze[2].  Both are fixed in my changes targeted at 1.0.84[3].
>>
>> So I would like to switch the default in debootstrap sooner rather than
>> later to give time to find some more bugs.  With this change, the
>> currently known bugs[4] should also be raised to "serious", but I don't
>> think any of them should be a blocker.
>>
>> Ansgar
>>
>>   [1] <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2016/09/msg00269.html>
>>   [2] <https://bugs.debian.org/838388>
>>   [3] <https://github.com/aburch/debootstrap>
>>   [4] <https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=usrmerge;users=md@linux.it>
> 
> 
> This change was reverted in 1.0.87 as dpkg-shlibdeps didn't cope
> properly with a merged-usr system. Thus reopening this bug report for
> that version.
> 
> The dpkg-shlibdeps bugs has been fixed [1] in the mean time. So it would
> be great if this bug report could be re-considered.
> 
That'll be after stretch now.

Cheers,
Julien

Message #57 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>, 839046@bugs.debian.org, Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:56:19 +0100

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Am 20.12.2016 um 09:21 schrieb Julien Cristau:
> On 12/20/2016 01:35 AM, Michael Biebl wrote:

>> The dpkg-shlibdeps bugs has been fixed [1] in the mean time. So it would
>> be great if this bug report could be re-considered.
>>
> That'll be after stretch now.

I can understand your decision even if it makes me a bit sad that this
feature didn't make it in time.

That said, it would be great if this change can be merged as soon as
buster is open for development.

Michael
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Message #62 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>, 839046@bugs.debian.org, Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 11:18:35 +0100

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Am 20.12.2016 um 10:56 schrieb Michael Biebl:
> Am 20.12.2016 um 09:21 schrieb Julien Cristau:
>> On 12/20/2016 01:35 AM, Michael Biebl wrote:
> 
>>> The dpkg-shlibdeps bugs has been fixed [1] in the mean time. So it would
>>> be great if this bug report could be re-considered.
>>>
>> That'll be after stretch now.
> 
> I can understand your decision even if it makes me a bit sad that this
> feature didn't make it in time.

To make it clear, with "this feature", I didn't mean this particular bug
report or the dpkg-shlibdeps bug report, but the merged-usr feature itself.
Just wanted to clarify in order to to avoid any misunderstanding.

Cheers,
Michael

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Message #67 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

To: 839046@bugs.debian.org, Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>, Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2017 21:38:07 +0200

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Hi Julien

On Tue, 20 Dec 2016 10:56:19 +0100 Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> wrote:
> Am 20.12.2016 um 09:21 schrieb Julien Cristau:
> > On 12/20/2016 01:35 AM, Michael Biebl wrote:
> 
> >> The dpkg-shlibdeps bugs has been fixed [1] in the mean time. So it would
> >> be great if this bug report could be re-considered.
> >>
> > That'll be after stretch now.
> 
> I can understand your decision even if it makes me a bit sad that this
> feature didn't make it in time.
> 
> That said, it would be great if this change can be merged as soon as
> buster is open for development.

We are very early in the buster development cycle so it would be great
opportunity to give this another try.

Are you ok with applying Ansgar's  patch again?

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Message #74 received at 839046@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri)

To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>, 839046@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>, Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#839046: debootstrap: enable --merged-usr by default

Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 21:49:37 +0100

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On Dec 20, Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> wrote:

> > This change was reverted in 1.0.87 as dpkg-shlibdeps didn't cope
> > properly with a merged-usr system. Thus reopening this bug report for
> > that version.
> > 
> > The dpkg-shlibdeps bugs has been fixed [1] in the mean time. So it would
> > be great if this bug report could be re-considered.
> That'll be after stretch now.
Stretch was been released long ago: please re-enable --merged-usr in 
debootstrap.

-- 
ciao,
Marco

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