Debian Bug report logs - #837728
RM: heimdal/1.7~git20150920+dfsg-4

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jelmer Vernooij <jelmer@debian.org>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: RM: heimdal/1.7~git20150920+dfsg-4

Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2016 23:23:47 +0000

Package: release.debian.org
Severity: normal
User: release.debian.org@packages.debian.org
Usertags: rm

Please remove the heimdal source package from testing. As maintainers,
we believe that Heimdal is not in a good enough state to be included in
a stable release.

There is still some activity in the upstream Git master branch. However:

* The last regular release (1.5) was in 2011, last RC was in 2012
* No security releases since Jan 2012, despite various recent security
  releases for MIT Kerberos since and occasional security releases while Heimdal
  was active
* There is no noticeable QA happening upstream. Tests fail on 32 bit,
  regressions have been introduced.
* Nobody upstream is interested in release management; we have asked
  about this on the development list multiple times.

I have filed bugs against the packages that depend on Heimdal to
either switch to building against Heimdal OR MIT or to drop their
Heimdal dependencies altogether.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: stretch/sid
  APT prefers unstable-debug
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable-debug'), (500, 'testing-debug'), (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'stable'), (1, 'experimental-debug'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 4.7.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Message #10 received at 837728@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Emilio Pozuelo Monfort <pochu@debian.org>

To: Jelmer Vernooij <jelmer@debian.org>, 837728@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#837728: RM: heimdal/1.7~git20150920+dfsg-4

Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 18:28:05 +0200

On 14/09/16 01:23, Jelmer Vernooij wrote:
> Package: release.debian.org
> Severity: normal
> User: release.debian.org@packages.debian.org
> Usertags: rm
> 
> Please remove the heimdal source package from testing. As maintainers,
> we believe that Heimdal is not in a good enough state to be included in
> a stable release.
> 
> There is still some activity in the upstream Git master branch. However:
> 
> * The last regular release (1.5) was in 2011, last RC was in 2012
> * No security releases since Jan 2012, despite various recent security
>   releases for MIT Kerberos since and occasional security releases while Heimdal
>   was active
> * There is no noticeable QA happening upstream. Tests fail on 32 bit,
>   regressions have been introduced.
> * Nobody upstream is interested in release management; we have asked
>   about this on the development list multiple times.
> 
> I have filed bugs against the packages that depend on Heimdal to
> either switch to building against Heimdal OR MIT or to drop their
> Heimdal dependencies altogether.

The build dependency should prefer MIT kerberos in that case, as sbuild/buildds
only look at the first alternative.

Please make those bugs block this one so we can track progress.

Thanks,
Emilio

Message #25 received at 837728@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jelmer Vernooij <jelmer@debian.org>

To: Emilio Pozuelo Monfort <pochu@debian.org>

Cc: 837728@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#837728: RM: heimdal/1.7~git20150920+dfsg-4

Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 19:01:10 +0000

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Hi Emilio,

On Sun, Oct 02, 2016 at 06:28:05PM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> On 14/09/16 01:23, Jelmer Vernooij wrote:
> > Package: release.debian.org
> > Severity: normal
> > User: release.debian.org@packages.debian.org
> > Usertags: rm
> > 
> > Please remove the heimdal source package from testing. As maintainers,
> > we believe that Heimdal is not in a good enough state to be included in
> > a stable release.
> > 
> > There is still some activity in the upstream Git master branch. However:
> > 
> > * The last regular release (1.5) was in 2011, last RC was in 2012
> > * No security releases since Jan 2012, despite various recent security
> >   releases for MIT Kerberos since and occasional security releases while Heimdal
> >   was active
> > * There is no noticeable QA happening upstream. Tests fail on 32 bit,
> >   regressions have been introduced.
> > * Nobody upstream is interested in release management; we have asked
> >   about this on the development list multiple times.
> > 
> > I have filed bugs against the packages that depend on Heimdal to
> > either switch to building against Heimdal OR MIT or to drop their
> > Heimdal dependencies altogether.
> 
> The build dependency should prefer MIT kerberos in that case, as sbuild/buildds
> only look at the first alternative.
That is the case.

> Please make those bugs block this one so we can track progress.
I've added them as blockers. There are four still open.

Thanks,

Jelmer

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Message #30 received at 837728@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org>

To: Jelmer Vernooij <jelmer@debian.org>

Cc: Emilio Pozuelo Monfort <pochu@debian.org>, 837728@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#837728: RM: heimdal/1.7~git20150920+dfsg-4

Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 12:30:34 -0700

Jelmer Vernooij <jelmer@debian.org> writes:
> On Sun, Oct 02, 2016 at 06:28:05PM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:

>> Please make those bugs block this one so we can track progress.

> I've added them as blockers. There are four still open.

I can drop libpam-heimdal from the libpam-krb5 source package (and will
get that in the next upload, hopefully pretty soon).  For
libheimdal-kadm5-perl, there isn't really anything one can do with the
package, since it's Heimdal-specific.  Should I open a separate bug to
remove it from testing as well, or do you want to just handle that as part
of this report?

-- 
Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org)               <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Message #35 received at 837728@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Emilio Pozuelo Monfort <pochu@debian.org>

To: Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org>, Jelmer Vernooij <jelmer@debian.org>

Cc: 837728@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#837728: RM: heimdal/1.7~git20150920+dfsg-4

Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2016 16:01:06 +0200

On 02/10/16 21:30, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Jelmer Vernooij <jelmer@debian.org> writes:
>> On Sun, Oct 02, 2016 at 06:28:05PM +0200, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> 
>>> Please make those bugs block this one so we can track progress.
> 
>> I've added them as blockers. There are four still open.
> 
> I can drop libpam-heimdal from the libpam-krb5 source package (and will
> get that in the next upload, hopefully pretty soon).  For
> libheimdal-kadm5-perl, there isn't really anything one can do with the
> package, since it's Heimdal-specific.  Should I open a separate bug to
> remove it from testing as well, or do you want to just handle that as part
> of this report?

That's fine, I can handle it together with heimdal.

Thanks,
Emilio

Message #42 received at 837728@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jelmer Vernooij <jelmer@debian.org>

To: 837728@bugs.debian.org

Cc: bam@debian.org, abartlet@samba.org

Subject: New Heimdal RC

Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 00:37:54 +0000

Just a quick update to this bug: some awesome people upstream (thanks!) have
taken on the effort of getting another Heimdal release out. A RC has been
pushed out, and hopefully a final 7 release will follow before the end of the year.

Unfortunately, with the release schedule for Debian being what it is, the
timing is far from ideal [1].

[1] The irony is that the impending removal of Heimdal from Debian
highlighted the urgency for upstream of getting a release out.

Message #47 received at 837728@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jelmer Vernooij <jelmer@debian.org>

To: 837728@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Heimdal has done a new release

Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 17:43:54 +0000

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Heimdal has done a new release, which has been packaged and will
hopefully make it into stretch, rendering this removal request
unnecessary.

The only thing that's preventing its migration to testing at the
moment is a regression in binutils on MIPS
(https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=844357).

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Message #52 received at 837728-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Emilio Pozuelo Monfort <pochu@debian.org>

To: Jelmer Vernooij <jelmer@debian.org>, 837728-done@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#837728: Heimdal has done a new release

Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2017 00:01:29 +0100

On 06/01/17 18:43, Jelmer Vernooij wrote:
> Heimdal has done a new release, which has been packaged and will
> hopefully make it into stretch, rendering this removal request
> unnecessary.

Let's close this then.

> The only thing that's preventing its migration to testing at the
> moment is a regression in binutils on MIPS
> (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=844357).

That's fixed now, this should migrate tomorrow night.

Cheers,
Emilio

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