Debian Bug report logs - #832508
O: systemd-shim -- SysVinit shim for systemd

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Martin Pitt <mpitt@debian.org>

To: Debian BTS Submit <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Cc: Steve Langasek <vorlon@debian.org>, Allison Ryan Lortie <desrt@desrt.ca>

Subject: O: systemd-shim -- SysVinit shim for systemd

Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 11:09:32 +0200

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Package: wnpp

Neither Steve nor I still have any interest in maintaining
systemd-shim. Debian's default init system is systemd, Ubuntu supports
nothing else any more (and does not even have systemd-shim any more),
upstart is gone from both Debian and Ubuntu, so the only use case for
it right now is running Debian with SysVinit (in particular, on
non-Linux flavors).

So this should be picked up by someone who is interested in keeping SysV init
support for desktops (i. e. which need logind or timedatectl) alive in Debian.
There are currently no release-critical bugs and the package is working
reasonably well for main use cases, but there *are* a few bugs worth looking
into.

The upstream branch is currently at <https://github.com/desrt/systemd-shim/>.
Allison isn't interested any more in this either, so I suggest that
the upstream repo gets mothballed and systemd-shim just becomes a
Debian-native package (I'm not aware of any other distro using it
anyway).

Note that systemd-shim currently uses cgmanager, which by itself is obsolete [1].

Package description:

  Description: shim for systemd
   This package emulates the systemd function that are required to run
   the systemd helpers without using the init service


Martin

[1] https://s3hh.wordpress.com/2016/06/18/whither-cgmanager/
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Message #10 received at 832508@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Iain R. Learmonth" <irl@fsfe.org>

To: Martin Pitt <mpitt@debian.org>, 832508@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#832508: O: systemd-shim -- SysVinit shim for systemd

Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 15:33:43 +0100

Hi,

On 26/07/16 10:09, Martin Pitt wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> 
> Neither Steve nor I still have any interest in maintaining
> systemd-shim. Debian's default init system is systemd, Ubuntu supports
> nothing else any more (and does not even have systemd-shim any more),
> upstart is gone from both Debian and Ubuntu, so the only use case for
> it right now is running Debian with SysVinit (in particular, on
> non-Linux flavors).

Just a suggestion, but maybe ping a Devuan mailing list. If those guys
are interested in continuing to support sysvinit then maybe they would
be happy to take this.

I'd much prefer to see efforts within Debian that can benefit a wider
community than hacks patched on top that only benefit a smaller group.

Thanks,
Iain.

Message #15 received at 832508@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Martin Pitt <mpitt@debian.org>

To: "Iain R. Learmonth" <irl@fsfe.org>

Cc: 832508@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#832508: O: systemd-shim -- SysVinit shim for systemd

Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2016 16:47:51 +0200

Hello Iain,

Iain R. Learmonth [2016-07-26 15:33 +0100]:
> Just a suggestion, but maybe ping a Devuan mailing list.

Good idea, I sent it to
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/devuan-discuss.en.html
(might take a bit to appear, I'm not subscribed).

Martin

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Message #20 received at 832508@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Andrey Gursky <andrey.gursky@e-mail.ua>

To: 832508@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Martin Pitt <mpitt@debian.org>, Iain R. Learmonth <irl@fsfe.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#832508: O: systemd-shim -- SysVinit shim for systemd

Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 04:45:21 +0200

Hello Martin,

> Good idea, I sent it to
> https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/list/devuan-discuss.en.html
> (might take a bit to appear, I'm not subscribed).

I still can't see your message.

Regards,
Andrey

Message #25 received at 832508@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Daniel Reurich <daniel@centurion.net.nz>

To: 832508@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#832508: O: systemd-shim -- SysVinit shim for systemd

Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2016 09:54:15 +1200

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Hi,

We don't use this package in Devuan as we're rebuilding packages to
remove the systemd dependencies.  So there is no interest in this
package from the Devuan side either.

Thanks,
	Daniel



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Message #30 received at 832508@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ab B <teetylertoe@gmail.com>

To: 832508@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#832508: O: systemd-shim -- SysVinit shim for systemd

Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:45:09 -0400

I'd be interested in becoming the sponsored maintainer of this
package.  It seems like it would require a fairly low level of
attention.  It looks like it's used by ~14,000 installations, so it
does seem like it should be maintained.  I suppose I'd need a DD as
sponsor?  I've asked the systemd mailing list and asked to join the
systemd project on alioth.

Message #35 received at 832508@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Gianfranco Costamagna <locutusofborg@debian.org>

To: 832508@bugs.debian.org, teetylertoe@gmail.com

Subject: Re: Bug#832508: O: systemd-shim -- SysVinit shim for systemd

Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2016 08:25:46 +0200

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Hi,

On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 13:45:09 -0400 Ab B <teetylertoe@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd be interested in becoming the sponsored maintainer of this
> package.  It seems like it would require a fairly low level of
> attention.  It looks like it's used by ~14,000 installations, so it
> does seem like it should be maintained.  I suppose I'd need a DD as
> sponsor?  I've asked the systemd mailing list and asked to join the
> systemd project on alioth.

the best way to find a sponsor is by forking the git repo somewhere else,
show your packaging skills by fixing bugs and refactoring the packaging
(or whatever is needed), and then ask to adopt it.

We can't blindly sponsor stuff just because of somebody is interested, an
unmaintained package is better than a badly maintained one :)

I can't see your name/surname/ddpo page, so I can assume you don't maintain
any debian stuff right now?

Gianfranco

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Message #40 received at 832508@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ken Sharp <imwellcushtymelike@gmail.com>

To: 832508@bugs.debian.org

Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2018 23:33:39 +0100

Ping? Two years later?





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Cc: systemd-shim@packages.debian.org

Subject: Bug#915038: Removed package(s) from unstable

Date: Sat, 01 Dec 2018 03:05:54 +0000

Version: 10-3+rm

Dear submitter,

as the package systemd-shim has just been removed from the Debian archive
unstable we hereby close the associated bug reports.  We are sorry
that we couldn't deal with your issue properly.

For details on the removal, please see https://bugs.debian.org/915038

The version of this package that was in Debian prior to this removal
can still be found using http://snapshot.debian.org/.

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