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ITA: gcompris-qt -- Educational games for small children - Qt rewrite

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Yann Dirson <ydirson@free.fr>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: O: gcompris-qt -- Educational games for small children - experimental Qt rewrite

Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2016 15:56:02 +0200

Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

I intend to orphan the gcompris-qt package.

The package description is:
 A large collection of educational games for small children, designed
 to be a unified interface to integrate more educational games.
 .
 This is the rewrite of GCompris using Qt Quick technology.


My children have grown up and don't use GCompris any more; the Qt
variant has quite active development which makes it quite
time-consuming to work on.

Biggest task of the moment is to find a way to deal with the copyright
info of the collection of data files coming from various sources -
upstream being open to suggestions as to how to deal with it.

Message #10 received at 826428@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Simon Quigley <tsimonq2@ubuntu.com>

To: 826428@bugs.debian.org

Subject: ITA: gcompris-qt -- Educational games for small children - Qt rewrite

Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2017 21:01:02 +0000

Control: retitle -1 ITA: gcompris-qt -- Educational games for small children - Qt rewrite
Control: owner -1 tsimonq2@ubuntu.com

I would like to adopt this package.

Message #19 received at 826428@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sébastien Villemot <sebastien@debian.org>

To: Simon Quigley <tsimonq2@ubuntu.com>, 826428@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: ITA: gcompris-qt -- Educational games for small children - Qt rewrite

Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2017 15:18:58 +0100

Hi Simon,

On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 21:01:02 +0000 Simon Quigley <tsimonq2@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> Control: retitle -1 ITA: gcompris-qt -- Educational games for small children - Qt rewrite
> Control: owner -1 tsimonq2@ubuntu.com
> 
> I would like to adopt this package.

Any progress on this?

Also I think it would make sense to merge the gcompris and gcompris-qt
source packages (the distinction is no longer relevant).

Best,

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Message #24 received at 826428@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Simon Quigley <tsimonq2@ubuntu.com>

To: Sébastien Villemot <sebastien@debian.org>, 826428@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: ITA: gcompris-qt -- Educational games for small children - Qt rewrite

Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2017 16:26:10 -0600

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Hello,

On 12/06/2017 08:18 AM, Sébastien Villemot wrote:
> Any progress on this?

Yep, I've been busy, but I've gotten to the point where I just have to
do a copyright sweep and it should be good.

Here's a link:
https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/qt-extras/gcompris-qt.git

> Also I think it would make sense to merge the gcompris and gcompris-qt
> source packages (the distinction is no longer relevant).

Sure, you're more than welcome to make any commits to that repo that you
feel would be relevant.

Thanks for checking in,
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Message #29 received at 826428@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sébastien Villemot <sebastien@debian.org>

To: Simon Quigley <tsimonq2@ubuntu.com>

Cc: 826428@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: ITA: gcompris-qt -- Educational games for small children - Qt rewrite

Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 12:11:09 +0100

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On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 04:26:10PM -0600, Simon Quigley wrote:

> On 12/06/2017 08:18 AM, Sébastien Villemot wrote:
> > Any progress on this?
> 
> Yep, I've been busy, but I've gotten to the point where I just have to
> do a copyright sweep and it should be good.
> 
> Here's a link:
> https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-kde/qt-extras/gcompris-qt.git

Thanks, good to know that you’ve made progress.

> > Also I think it would make sense to merge the gcompris and gcompris-qt
> > source packages (the distinction is no longer relevant).
> 
> Sure, you're more than welcome to make any commits to that repo that you
> feel would be relevant.

Here is how I would do the transition:

- keep the source package name "gcompris-qt"

- but rename the binary packages to "gcompris" and "gcompris-data"
  respectively, therefore taking over the binary packages currently provided by
  src:gcompris

- since the version number of the old series (15.10-1) is higher than the new
  one (0.81-1), the epoch needs to be bumped (i.e. we should use 1:0.81-1).

- a transition package "gcompris-qt" (depending on "gcompris") should be provided
  for current users of the -qt version 

- finally, after uploading these changes, removal of the older src:gcompris
  source package should be requested.

Does that sound good to you?

If yes, I am willing to implement this change in the git.

Best,

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⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁  Debian Developer
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀  http://sebastien.villemot.name
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Message #34 received at 826428@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sébastien Villemot <sebastien@debian.org>

To: Simon Quigley <tsimonq2@ubuntu.com>

Cc: 826428@bugs.debian.org, 875912@bugs.debian.org, Jeremy Bicha <jbicha@debian.org>, ydirson@free.fr

Subject: Re: ITA: gcompris-qt -- Educational games for small children - Qt rewrite

Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 12:24:30 +0100

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I've just realized that an alternative transition plan has been described in
#875912, so I'm cc'ing that bug too and its participants. Below is the
transition plan that I had in mind and some additional comments.

On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 12:11:09PM +0100, Sébastien Villemot wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 04:26:10PM -0600, Simon Quigley wrote:
> > > Also I think it would make sense to merge the gcompris and gcompris-qt
> > > source packages (the distinction is no longer relevant).
> > 
> > Sure, you're more than welcome to make any commits to that repo that you
> > feel would be relevant.
> 
> Here is how I would do the transition:
> 
> - keep the source package name "gcompris-qt"
> 
> - but rename the binary packages to "gcompris" and "gcompris-data"
>   respectively, therefore taking over the binary packages currently provided by
>   src:gcompris
> 
> - since the version number of the old series (15.10-1) is higher than the new
>   one (0.81-1), the epoch needs to be bumped (i.e. we should use 1:0.81-1).
> 
> - a transition package "gcompris-qt" (depending on "gcompris") should be provided
>   for current users of the -qt version 
> 
> - finally, after uploading these changes, removal of the older src:gcompris
>   source package should be requested.
> 
> Does that sound good to you?
> 
> If yes, I am willing to implement this change in the git.

Compared to the plan described in #875912 (keeping two separate source package,
and making "gcompris" a transitional package depending on "gcompris-qt), my
plan has the advantage of avoiding the need for a transitional *source*
package, and keeps the binary package "gcompris" as the main binary package
which is probably better from a user point of view; its drawback is that it
requires an epoch bump.

I am basically fine with both options, so please weigh in if you have a strong
case for either of the two scenarios.

Best,

-- 
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⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁  Debian Developer
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀  http://sebastien.villemot.name
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Message #39 received at 826428@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jeremy Bicha <jbicha@debian.org>

To: Sébastien Villemot <sebastien@debian.org>

Cc: 826428@bugs.debian.org, 875912@bugs.debian.org, Yann Dirson <ydirson@free.fr>

Subject: Re: ITA: gcompris-qt -- Educational games for small children - Qt rewrite

Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 08:18:52 -0500

On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 6:24 AM, Sébastien Villemot <sebastien@debian.org> wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 12:11:09PM +0100, Sébastien Villemot wrote:
>> On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 04:26:10PM -0600, Simon Quigley wrote:
>> - since the version number of the old series (15.10-1) is higher than the new
>>   one (0.81-1), the epoch needs to be bumped (i.e. we should use 1:0.81-1).

There is an interesting hack where only the old package names need the
epoch bump.

See for instance
https://anonscm.debian.org/git/pkg-fonts/fonts-ubuntu.git/commit/?id=046b11af

Thanks,
Jeremy Bicha

Message #44 received at 826428@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sébastien Villemot <sebastien@debian.org>

To: Jeremy Bicha <jbicha@debian.org>, 826428@bugs.debian.org

Cc: 875912@bugs.debian.org, Yann Dirson <ydirson@free.fr>

Subject: Re: Bug#826428: ITA: gcompris-qt -- Educational games for small children - Qt rewrite

Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 14:40:15 +0100

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On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 08:18:52AM -0500, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 6:24 AM, Sébastien Villemot <sebastien@debian.org> wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 12:11:09PM +0100, Sébastien Villemot wrote:
> >> On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 04:26:10PM -0600, Simon Quigley wrote:
> >> - since the version number of the old series (15.10-1) is higher than the new
> >>   one (0.81-1), the epoch needs to be bumped (i.e. we should use 1:0.81-1).
> 
> There is an interesting hack where only the old package names need the
> epoch bump.
> 
> See for instance
> https://anonscm.debian.org/git/pkg-fonts/fonts-ubuntu.git/commit/?id=046b11af

Thanks for sharing. That hack would actually open the door to a 3rd transition
scheme:
- keeping only the gcompris-qt source package (src:gcompris can be immediately
  removed)
- keeping gcompris-qt as the main binary package
- having gcompris as a transitional package, generated by src:gcompris-qt, and
  would be the only binary package with an epoch number

That scheme looks like a good compromise to me.

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⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁  Debian Developer
⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀  http://sebastien.villemot.name
⠈⠳⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀  http://www.debian.org

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Message #49 received at 826428@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Simon Quigley <tsimonq2@ubuntu.com>

To: 826428@bugs.debian.org,Jeremy Bicha <jbicha@debian.org>

Cc: 875912@bugs.debian.org,Yann Dirson <ydirson@free.fr>

Subject: Re: Bug#826428: ITA: gcompris-qt -- Educational games for small children - Qt rewrite

Date: Thu, 07 Dec 2017 08:29:25 -0600

Hello, 

On December 7, 2017 7:40:15 AM CST, "Sébastien Villemot" <sebastien@debian.org> wrote:
>On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 08:18:52AM -0500, Jeremy Bicha wrote:
>> On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 6:24 AM, Sébastien Villemot
><sebastien@debian.org> wrote:
>> > On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 12:11:09PM +0100, Sébastien Villemot wrote:
>> >> On Wed, Dec 06, 2017 at 04:26:10PM -0600, Simon Quigley wrote:
>> >> - since the version number of the old series (15.10-1) is higher
>than the new
>> >>   one (0.81-1), the epoch needs to be bumped (i.e. we should use
>1:0.81-1).
>> 
>> There is an interesting hack where only the old package names need
>the
>> epoch bump.
>> 
>> See for instance
>>
>https://anonscm.debian.org/git/pkg-fonts/fonts-ubuntu.git/commit/?id=046b11af
>
>Thanks for sharing. That hack would actually open the door to a 3rd
>transition
>scheme:
>- keeping only the gcompris-qt source package (src:gcompris can be
>immediately
>  removed)
>- keeping gcompris-qt as the main binary package
>- having gcompris as a transitional package, generated by
>src:gcompris-qt, and
>  would be the only binary package with an epoch number
>
>That scheme looks like a good compromise to me.

Agreed, I'm +1 on this. Feel free to make the changes in Git, otherwise I can do it this afternoon US time. 

A full copyright review would also be great if you have the chance, but my plan is to do that later as well if nobody gets to it. 

Thanks, 
Simon Quigley 
(sent from mobile, please excuse formatting mistakes)

Message #54 received at 826428@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sébastien Villemot <sebastien@debian.org>

To: Simon Quigley <tsimonq2@ubuntu.com>, 826428@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Jeremy Bicha <jbicha@debian.org>, 875912@bugs.debian.org, Yann Dirson <ydirson@free.fr>

Subject: Re: Bug#826428: ITA: gcompris-qt -- Educational games for small children - Qt rewrite

Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 17:01:42 +0100

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On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 08:29:25AM -0600, Simon Quigley wrote:

> On December 7, 2017 7:40:15 AM CST, "Sébastien Villemot" <sebastien@debian.org> wrote:

> >Thanks for sharing. That hack would actually open the door to a 3rd
> >transition
> >scheme:
> >- keeping only the gcompris-qt source package (src:gcompris can be
> >immediately
> >  removed)
> >- keeping gcompris-qt as the main binary package
> >- having gcompris as a transitional package, generated by
> >src:gcompris-qt, and
> >  would be the only binary package with an epoch number
> >
> >That scheme looks like a good compromise to me.
> 
> Agreed, I'm +1 on this. Feel free to make the changes in Git, otherwise I can do it this afternoon US time. 

I don’t have write permission on the repository, so I am attaching a patch to
this message (and also an unrelated patch that fixes a small issue).

Best,

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Message #59 received at 826428@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sébastien Villemot <sebastien@debian.org>

To: Simon Quigley <tsimonq2@ubuntu.com>, 826428@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#826428: ITA: gcompris-qt -- Educational games for small children - Qt rewrite

Date: Thu, 7 Dec 2017 17:30:45 +0100

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On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 05:01:42PM +0100, Sébastien Villemot wrote:

> I don’t have write permission on the repository, so I am attaching a patch to
> this message (and also an unrelated patch that fixes a small issue).

Also, you forgot to close the present O/ITA bug in the changelog.

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Message #64 received at 826428@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Simon Quigley <tsimonq2@ubuntu.com>

To: Sébastien Villemot <sebastien@debian.org>, 826428@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Jeremy Bicha <jbicha@debian.org>, 875912@bugs.debian.org, Yann Dirson <ydirson@free.fr>

Subject: Re: Bug#826428: ITA: gcompris-qt -- Educational games for small children - Qt rewrite

Date: Mon, 25 Dec 2017 20:23:55 -0600

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Hello!

On 12/07/2017 10:01 AM, Sébastien Villemot wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 07, 2017 at 08:29:25AM -0600, Simon Quigley wrote:
> 
>> On December 7, 2017 7:40:15 AM CST, "Sébastien Villemot" <sebastien@debian.org> wrote:
> 
>>> Thanks for sharing. That hack would actually open the door to a 3rd
>>> transition
>>> scheme:
>>> - keeping only the gcompris-qt source package (src:gcompris can be
>>> immediately
>>>  removed)
>>> - keeping gcompris-qt as the main binary package
>>> - having gcompris as a transitional package, generated by
>>> src:gcompris-qt, and
>>>  would be the only binary package with an epoch number
>>>
>>> That scheme looks like a good compromise to me.
>>
>> Agreed, I'm +1 on this. Feel free to make the changes in Git, otherwise I can do it this afternoon US time. 
> 
> I don’t have write permission on the repository, so I am attaching a patch to
> this message (and also an unrelated patch that fixes a small issue).

Thanks for the patches (applied), and apologies for the delay in getting
back to you on this (holidays get kinda busy :/).

Tonight or tomorrow I'll get this ready for a review (I don't have
upload access to Debian so I'll need someone to review/sponsor).

Thanks again!

-- 
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Message #69 received at 826428@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sébastien Villemot <sebastien@debian.org>

To: Simon Quigley <tsimonq2@ubuntu.com>

Cc: 826428@bugs.debian.org, Jeremy Bicha <jbicha@debian.org>, Yann Dirson <ydirson@free.fr>

Subject: Re: Bug#826428: ITA: gcompris-qt -- Educational games for small children - Qt rewrite

Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2017 09:21:27 +0100

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On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 08:23:55PM -0600, Simon Quigley wrote:

> Tonight or tomorrow I'll get this ready for a review (I don't have
> upload access to Debian so I'll need someone to review/sponsor).

Great! Just let me know when it’s ready, I’ll be happy to sponsor you.

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Message #74 received at 826428@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Simon Quigley <tsimonq2@ubuntu.com>

To: Sébastien Villemot <sebastien@debian.org>

Cc: 826428@bugs.debian.org, Jeremy Bicha <jbicha@debian.org>, Yann Dirson <ydirson@free.fr>

Subject: Re: Bug#826428: ITA: gcompris-qt -- Educational games for small children - Qt rewrite

Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2017 19:08:18 -0600

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Hello,

On 12/26/2017 02:21 AM, Sébastien Villemot wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 08:23:55PM -0600, Simon Quigley wrote:
> 
>> Tonight or tomorrow I'll get this ready for a review (I don't have
>> upload access to Debian so I'll need someone to review/sponsor).
> 
> Great! Just let me know when it’s ready, I’ll be happy to sponsor you.

Should be good now, could you please check it over?

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Message #79 received at 826428@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sébastien Villemot <sebastien@debian.org>

To: Simon Quigley <tsimonq2@ubuntu.com>

Cc: 826428@bugs.debian.org, Jeremy Bicha <jbicha@debian.org>, Yann Dirson <ydirson@free.fr>

Subject: Re: Bug#826428: ITA: gcompris-qt -- Educational games for small children - Qt rewrite

Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 10:25:58 +0100

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On Tue, Dec 26, 2017 at 07:08:18PM -0600, Simon Quigley wrote:
> On 12/26/2017 02:21 AM, Sébastien Villemot wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 25, 2017 at 08:23:55PM -0600, Simon Quigley wrote:
> > 
> >> Tonight or tomorrow I'll get this ready for a review (I don't have
> >> upload access to Debian so I'll need someone to review/sponsor).
> > 
> > Great! Just let me know when it’s ready, I’ll be happy to sponsor you.
> 
> Should be good now, could you please check it over?

Thanks. Actually there are a few issues:

1) I get the following lintian messages which signal problems in
   debian/copyright:

I: gcompris-qt source: wildcard-matches-nothing-in-dep5-copyright src/core/resource/bonus/flower_bad.png (paragraph at line 37)
I: gcompris-qt source: wildcard-matches-nothing-in-dep5-copyright src/core/resource/bonus/flower_good.png (paragraph at line 37)
I: gcompris-qt source: wildcard-matches-nothing-in-dep5-copyright src/core/resource/bonus/smiley_bad.png (paragraph at line 37)
I: gcompris-qt source: wildcard-matches-nothing-in-dep5-copyright src/core/resource/bonus/smiley_good.png (paragraph at line 37)
I: gcompris-qt source: wildcard-matches-nothing-in-dep5-copyright src/core/resource/bonus/tux_good.png (paragraph at line 45)
I: gcompris-qt source: wildcard-matches-nothing-in-dep5-copyright src/core/resource/bonus/tux_bad.png (paragraph at line 45)
I: gcompris-qt source: wildcard-matches-nothing-in-dep5-copyright src/activities/chess/resource/background.svg (paragraph at line 69)
I: gcompris-qt source: wildcard-matches-nothing-in-dep5-copyright gcompris.appdata.xml (paragraph at line 128)
I: gcompris-qt source: unused-file-paragraph-in-dep5-copyright paragraph at line 128
I: gcompris-qt source: unused-file-paragraph-in-dep5-copyright paragraph at line 37
I: gcompris-qt source: unused-file-paragraph-in-dep5-copyright paragraph at line 45
I: gcompris-qt source: unused-file-paragraph-in-dep5-copyright paragraph at line 69

2) The Vcs-Git and Vcs-Browser fields point to Ubuntu packaging, which is
   probably not what you want.
   
   BTW, it looks like there are currently two git repositories on Alioth: one
   in collab-maint (the most up-to-date) and one in pkg-kde-extras. I guess you
   should decide which one to keep and delete the other one (and if you opt for
   pkg-kde-extras, please finalize the changelog and add the debian git tag,
   since I don't have write access to it).

Best,

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