Debian Bug report logs - #817199
RM: transcode -- RoM; dead upstream, replacements exist

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sebastian Ramacher <sramacher@debian.org>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: transcode: should this package be removed?

Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2016 23:39:13 +0100

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Package: transcode
Version: 3:1.1.7-9
Severity: serious
Tags: sid stretch

transcode is dead upstream since many years and it is also no longer really
maintained Debian. We just keep sticking patches on top of it. I suppose most of
its use-cases are also covered by other tools already available in Debian. Also,
support for modern containers like mp4 is still very limited. So I think it's
time to let it go.

What do you think?

Cheers
-- 
Sebastian Ramacher

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Message #10 received at 817199@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Fabian Greffrath <fabian@debian.org>

To: Sebastian Ramacher <sramacher@debian.org>, 817199@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#817199: transcode: should this package be removed?

Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2016 16:42:20 +0100

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Am Dienstag, den 08.03.2016, 23:39 +0100 schrieb Sebastian Ramacher:
> What do you think?

No objections, except for this:

$ apt-cache rdepends transcode
transcode
Reverse Depends:
  transcode-doc
  xjadeo
  transcode-dbg
  multimedia-video
  python-mecavideo
  dvdwizard

It appears that at least dvdwizard has a hard Depends on transcode.

 - Fabian

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Message #15 received at 817199@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sebastian Ramacher <sramacher@debian.org>

To: Fabian Greffrath <fabian@debian.org>, 817199@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#817199: transcode: should this package be removed?

Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 21:25:51 +0100

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Hi

On 2016-03-09 16:42:20, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
> Am Dienstag, den 08.03.2016, 23:39 +0100 schrieb Sebastian Ramacher:
> > What do you think?
> 
> No objections, except for this:
> 
> $ apt-cache rdepends transcode
> transcode
> Reverse Depends:
>   transcode-doc
>   xjadeo
>   transcode-dbg
>   multimedia-video
>   python-mecavideo
>   dvdwizard
> 
> It appears that at least dvdwizard has a hard Depends on transcode.

Yes, dvdwizard would have to be RoQ-ed if we are going to remove transcode. But
it's also dead upstream and orphaned.

Cheers
-- 
Sebastian Ramacher

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Message #20 received at 817199@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Fabian Greffrath <fabian@debian.org>

To: Sebastian Ramacher <sramacher@debian.org>, 817199@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#817199: transcode: should this package be removed?

Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 09:58:52 +0100

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Am Sonntag, den 13.03.2016, 21:25 +0100 schrieb Sebastian Ramacher:
> Yes, dvdwizard would have to be RoQ-ed if we are going to remove
> transcode. But it's also dead upstream and orphaned.

Alright, let's go for it.

Anyway, since transcode is a command-line utility, it should be rather
straightforward to convert dvdwizard to use something more advanced,
e.g. ffmpeg. But until someone who urgently needs dvdwizard volunteers
to do this, I think it should be alright to remove it from the archive.

 - Fabian

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Message #25 received at 817199@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sebastian Ramacher <sramacher@debian.org>

To: Fabian Greffrath <fabian@debian.org>, 817199@bugs.debian.org

Cc: dvdwizard@packages.debian.org, ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#817199: transcode: should this package be removed?

Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2016 17:34:22 +0100

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Control: reassign -1 ftp.debian.org
Control: severity -1 normal
Control: retitle -1 RM: transcode -- RoM; dead upstream, replacements exist
Control: clone -1 -2
Control: retitle -2 RM: dvdwizard -- RoQA; orphaned, dead upstream, blocking transcode removal
Control: block -1 by -2

On 2016-03-18 09:58:52, Fabian Greffrath wrote:
> Am Sonntag, den 13.03.2016, 21:25 +0100 schrieb Sebastian Ramacher:
> > Yes, dvdwizard would have to be RoQ-ed if we are going to remove
> > transcode. But it's also dead upstream and orphaned.
> 
> Alright, let's go for it.
> 
> Anyway, since transcode is a command-line utility, it should be rather
> straightforward to convert dvdwizard to use something more advanced,
> e.g. ffmpeg. But until someone who urgently needs dvdwizard volunteers
> to do this, I think it should be alright to remove it from the archive.

Dear FTP masters, please remove transcode from unstable. From my initial mail
in this bug report:

> transcode is dead upstream since many years and it is also no longer really
> maintained Debian. We just keep sticking patches on top of it. I suppose most
> of its use-cases are also covered by other tools already available in Debian.
> Also, support for modern containers like mp4 is still very limited. So I think
> it's time to let it go.

Also, transcode will become RC-buggy once the ffmpeg 3.0 transition starts.

transcode has one reverse dependency: dvdwizard. dvdwizard is also dead upstream
and orphaned. Please remove it too.

Cheers
-- 
Sebastian Ramacher

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Message #42 received at 817199-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Debian FTP Masters <ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org>

To: 817199-close@bugs.debian.org

Cc: transcode@packages.debian.org, transcode@packages.qa.debian.org

Subject: Bug#817199: Removed package(s) from unstable

Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2016 09:56:10 +0000

We believe that the bug you reported is now fixed; the following
package(s) have been removed from unstable:

 transcode |  3:1.1.7-9 | source, mips64el
 transcode | 3:1.1.7-9+b2 | arm64, ppc64el
 transcode | 3:1.1.7-9+b5 | amd64, armel, armhf, i386, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390x
transcode-dbg |  3:1.1.7-9 | mips64el
transcode-dbg | 3:1.1.7-9+b2 | arm64, ppc64el
transcode-dbg | 3:1.1.7-9+b5 | amd64, armel, armhf, i386, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390x
transcode-doc |  3:1.1.7-9 | all

------------------- Reason -------------------
RoM; dead upstream, replacements exist
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Note that the package(s) have simply been removed from the tag
database and may (or may not) still be in the pool; this is not a bug.
The package(s) will be physically removed automatically when no suite
references them (and in the case of source, when no binary references
it).  Please also remember that the changes have been done on the
master archive and will not propagate to any mirrors until the next
dinstall run at the earliest.

Packages are usually not removed from testing by hand. Testing tracks
unstable and will automatically remove packages which were removed
from unstable when removing them from testing causes no dependency
problems. The release team can force a removal from testing if it is
really needed, please contact them if this should be the case.

We try to close bugs which have been reported against this package
automatically. But please check all old bugs, if they were closed
correctly or should have been re-assigned to another package.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 817199@bugs.debian.org.

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