Debian Bug report logs - #810853
RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system

Package: sponsorship-requests; Maintainer for sponsorship-requests is Debian Mentors <package-sponsorship-requests@lists.debian.org>;

Reported by: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>

Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 20:54:01 UTC

Severity: wishlist

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Blocking fix for 810822: RFP: MooseFS -- fault tolerant, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out, network distributed file system

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From: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Cc: Debian Mentors <debian-mentors@lists.debian.org>, MooseFS Technical Support Department <dwt@moosefs.com>
Subject: RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 21:52:21 +0100
X-Debbugs-Cc: piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com, debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-mentors@lists.debian.org, dwt@moosefs.com
Package: sponsorship-requests
Severity: normal

  Dear Mentors,

  I am looking for a sponsor for our team's package - MooseFS

  Package name      : moosefs
  Version           : 2.0.83-1
  URL               : https://moosefs.com
  Section           : admin
  Upstream Author   : Jakub Kruszona-Zawadzki <jakub.kruszona@moosefs.com>
  URL               : https://moosefs.com
  Sources URL       : http://ppa.moosefs.com/src/
                 or : https://moosefs.com/download/sources.html
  License           : GPL-2
  Programming Lang  : C, Python
  Dependencies      : libpcap0.8, python, libfuse2

  Description       : MooseFS (MFS) is a fault tolerant, reliable, highly available,
    highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system. It spreads
    data over several physical servers which are visible to the user as one
    resource. For standard file operations MooseFS mounted with FUSE acts
    as other Unix-alike file systems.


  It builds the following binary packages:

  moosefs-master       - MooseFS metadata and managing server
  moosefs-metalogger   - MooseFS metadata backup server
  moosefs-chunkserver  - MooseFS data storage component
  moosefs-client       - MooseFS client tools
  moosefs-cgi          - MooseFS CGI interface
  moosefs-cgiserv      - MooseFS CGI webserver
  moosefs-netdump      - MooseFS network packet dump utility


  We're already publishing our own packages repository
  (https://moosefs.com/download/ubuntudebian.html)
  (http://ppa.moosefs.com/stable/apt/debian/)

  We would like to make MooseFS available directly in Debian! :)


  Long description:

    MooseFS (MFS) is a fault tolerant, reliable, highly available,
    highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system. It spreads
    data over several physical servers which are visible to the user as one
    resource. For standard file operations MooseFS mounted with FUSE acts
    as other Unix-alike file systems:

      * A hierarchical structure (directory tree)
      * Stores POSIX file attributes (permissions, last access and modification times)
      * Supports special files (block and character devices, pipes and sockets)
      * Supports directory ("project") quotas
      * Supports POSIX ACLs and extended attributes
      * Symbolic links (file names pointing to target files, not necessarily on MooseFS)
        and hard links (different names of files which refer to the same data on MooseFS)
      * Access to the file system can be limited based on IP address and/or password

    Distinctive features of MooseFS are:

      * High availability
      * High reliability (several copies of the data can be stored on separate computers)
      * Capacity is dynamically expandable by simply adding new computers/disks
      * Deleted files are retained for a configurable period of time
        (a file system level "trash bin")
      * Coherent snapshots of files, even while the file is being written/accessed


Best regards,

-- 
Piotr Robert Konopelko
MooseFS Technical Support Engineer | moosefs.com




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From: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>
To: 810853@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Bug#810853: RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 22:17:38 +0100
I forgot to mention, that there is a fork of MooseFS in Debian repository already, called LizardFS.


Best regards,

-- 
Piotr Robert Konopelko
MooseFS Technical Support Engineer | moosefs.com


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From: md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri)
To: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>, 810853@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#810853: RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 22:27:13 +0100
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On Jan 12, Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com> wrote:

>     Distinctive features of MooseFS are:
> 
>       * High availability
Can you clarify this point? moosefs.com explains that high availability 
features are available only in the proprietary version of the software.

-- 
ciao,
Marco
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From: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>
To: 810853@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#810853: Acknowledgement (RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 22:07:22 +0100
Control: severity -1 wishlist



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From: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>
To: 810853@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#810853: Acknowledgement (RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 22:04:09 +0100
severity 810853 wishlist



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From: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>
To: Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT>
Cc: 810853@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#810853: RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 22:40:37 +0100
> Can you clarify this point? moosefs.com explains that high availability 
> features are available only in the proprietary version of the software.

Of course.

MooseFS components in free version are highly available but Master Server.
It means, that if for some reason you loose e.g. whole Chunkserver, your
system still works. If you loose HDD on chunkserver, system still works.

If you loose Master Server, user action is needed: he can run another
Master Server e.g. basing on medatada collected on Metalogger (sometadata
is *not* lost) or "repair" broken Master Server.

Such situation happens very rarely, mainly because of e.g. powercut
in server room.



Best regards,

-- 
Piotr Robert Konopelko



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Message #37 received at 810853@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT>
To: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>
Cc: 810853@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#810853: RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 22:44:16 +0100
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On Jan 12, Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com> wrote:

> > Can you clarify this point? moosefs.com explains that high availability 
> > features are available only in the proprietary version of the software.
> If you loose Master Server, user action is needed: he can run another
> Master Server e.g. basing on medatada collected on Metalogger (sometadata
> is *not* lost) or "repair" broken Master Server.
In other words, the system is not highly available.

> Such situation happens very rarely, mainly because of e.g. powercut
> in server room.
Or a server crashes, or a daemon has a bug, etc...

-- 
ciao,
Marco
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Message #42 received at 810853@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>
To: 810853@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#810853: RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 22:48:02 +0100
I forgot to mention, that MooseFS fork - LizardFS is a fork
of *old* MooseFS version - 1.6.27-5 which is a far behind
2.0.x (stable) or 3.0.x (curent / testing).

(Far behind = since MFS 1.6.x a lot of features have been
added and a lot of improvements in algorithms have been made,
full list is available in NEWS file in sources tarball).



Best regards,

-- 
Piotr Robert Konopelko



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Message #47 received at 810853@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>
To: Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT>
Cc: 810853@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#810853: RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 22:50:42 +0100
> On 12 Jan 2016, at 10:44 PM, Marco d'Itri <md@Linux.IT> wrote:
> 
> Or a server crashes, or a daemon has a bug, etc...

I agree.


Best regards,

-- 
Piotr Robert Konopelko



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From: Gianfranco Costamagna <costamagnagianfranco@yahoo.it>
To: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>, "810853@bugs.debian.org" <810853@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#810853: RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 22:41:11 +0000 (UTC)
>Il Martedì 12 Gennaio 2016 22:52, Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com> ha scritto:

>I forgot to mention, that MooseFS fork - LizardFS is a fork
>of *old* MooseFS version - 1.6.27-5 which is a far behind
>2.0.x (stable) or 3.0.x (curent / testing).
>
>(Far behind = since MFS 1.6.x a lot of features have been
>added and a lot of improvements in algorithms have been made,
>full list is available in NEWS file in sources tarball).



if you think it is a full and better replacement of LizardFS, you need to talk
with LizardFS maintainer



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From: Gianfranco Costamagna <costamagnagianfranco@yahoo.it>
To: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>, "810853@bugs.debian.org" <810853@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#810853: RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 22:41:55 +0000 (UTC)
(wrong hotkey)
Hi,

If you think it is a full and better replacement of LizardFS, you need to talk

with LizardFS maintainer, reachable at
https://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lizardfs.html

cheers,

Gianfranco



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From: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>
To: Gianfranco Costamagna <costamagnagianfranco@yahoo.it>
Cc: "810853@bugs.debian.org" <810853@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#810853: RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 23:52:17 +0100
> On 12 Jan 2016, at 11:41 PM, Gianfranco Costamagna <costamagnagianfranco@yahoo.it> wrote:
> 
> (wrong hotkey)
> Hi,
> 
> If you think it is a full and better replacement of LizardFS, you need to talk
> 
> with LizardFS maintainer, reachable at
> https://packages.qa.debian.org/l/lizardfs.html

Thanks for the hint.

You know - LizardFS is developed (somehow) now, but it conflicts with MooseFS
(e.g. the same binary executables names' like mfsmaster, mfsmetalogger, ...)
- LizardFS' developers didn't change them.

Now they're two "different" projects (still of course connected by MooseFS 1.6.x
source), each is going it's own path...

Of course I think MooseFS is better, but I don't want to remove any software;
it's user's choice which software he/she uses.

Apart this I don't think, that LizardFS maintainer would "replace"
LizardFS with MooseFS.


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From: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>
To: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>, 810853@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#810853: RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:53:43 +0800
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 5:17 AM, Piotr Robert Konopelko wrote:

> I forgot to mention, that there is a fork of MooseFS in Debian repository already, called LizardFS.

Please let the security team know so that they can add the fork to
their code copies metadata.

https://wiki.debian.org/EmbeddedCodeCopies

-- 
bye,
pabs

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From: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>
To: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>
Cc: 810853@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#810853: RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system)
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2016 16:17:17 +0100
> On 13 Jan 2016, at 3:53 PM, Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 5:17 AM, Piotr Robert Konopelko wrote:
> 
>> I forgot to mention, that there is a fork of MooseFS in Debian repository already, called LizardFS.
> 
> Please let the security team know so that they can add the fork to
> their code copies metadata.
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/EmbeddedCodeCopies

Thanks for the suggestion, I just posted info to:

debian-security-tracker@lists.debian.org


Best regards,

-- 
Piotr Robert Konopelko


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From: Dmitry Smirnov <onlyjob@debian.org>
To: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>, 810853@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Gianfranco Costamagna <costamagnagianfranco@yahoo.it>, debian-mentors@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#810853: RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 01:06:21 +1100
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 11:52:17 PM Piotr Robert Konopelko wrote:
> Of course I think MooseFS is better,

I'd much appreciate if you could elaborate on details how MooseFS is better.
I could not find anything to support that claim.


> Apart this I don't think, that LizardFS maintainer would "replace"
> LizardFS with MooseFS.

That is correct. However I would replace MooseFS with LizardFS without 
hesitation.

-- 
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From: Dmitry Smirnov <onlyjob@debian.org>
To: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>, 810853@bugs.debian.org, MooseFS Technical Support Department <dwt@moosefs.com>
Subject: Re: Bug#810853: RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 01:10:50 +1100
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On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 09:52:21 PM Piotr Robert Konopelko wrote:
>   I am looking for a sponsor for our team's package - MooseFS

I had a glimpse at the packaging in the source archive 3.0.69 and I think it 
needs much more work before it could be uploaded (let alone my objections 
against introducing MooseFS to Debian). There are too many issues to list...

-- 
All the best,
 Dmitry Smirnov.

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results.
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From: Jakub Kruszona-Zawadzki <jakub.kruszona@gemius.com>
To: Dmitry Smirnov <onlyjob@debian.org>
Cc: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>, 810853@bugs.debian.org, MooseFS Technical Support Department <dwt@moosefs.com>
Subject: Re: Bug#810853: RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 07:23:30 +0100
On 15 Jan, 2016, at 15:10, Dmitry Smirnov <onlyjob@debian.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 09:52:21 PM Piotr Robert Konopelko wrote:
>>  I am looking for a sponsor for our team's package - MooseFS
> 
> I had a glimpse at the packaging in the source archive 3.0.69 and I think it 
> needs much more work before it could be uploaded (let alone my objections 
> against introducing MooseFS to Debian). There are too many issues to list...

Could you enlight me? 'debian' folder looks almost the same in MooseFS and LizardFS. What issues are you talking about? Some examples?

Believe me or not, but we are very open to change some things in MooseFS. As you maybe know we change licence of open source version to GPL and made it freely available, so we always try to adapt to community necessities.

> 
> -- 
> All the best,
> Dmitry Smirnov.
> 
> ---
> 
> However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the
> results.
>        -- Winston Churchill

-- 
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From: Dmitry Smirnov <onlyjob@debian.org>
To: Jakub Kruszona-Zawadzki <jakub.kruszona@gemius.com>
Cc: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>, 810853@bugs.debian.org, MooseFS Technical Support Department <dwt@moosefs.com>
Subject: Re: Bug#810853: RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 18:35:17 +1100
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On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 07:23:30 AM Jakub Kruszona-Zawadzki wrote:
> On 15 Jan, 2016, at 15:10, Dmitry Smirnov <onlyjob@debian.org> wrote:
> > I had a glimpse at the packaging in the source archive 3.0.69 and I think
> > it needs much more work before it could be uploaded (let alone my
> > objections against introducing MooseFS to Debian). There are too many
> > issues to list...
> Could you enlight me? 'debian' folder looks almost the same in MooseFS and
> LizardFS. What issues are you talking about? Some examples?

Please note that official Debian packaging is quite different from what you 
can find in upstream repository. LizardFS team is not competent with 
packaging and they barely touched it as far as I recall.

Obvious way to improve packaging would be to address Lintian warnings, 
introduce support for Systemd etc. Sorry I don't have time for in-depth 
review and at the moment I have no intention to sponsor MooseFS...


> Believe me or not, but we are very open to change some things in MooseFS.
> As you maybe know we change licence of open source version to GPL and made
> it freely available, so we always try to adapt to community necessities.


That is very nice indeed. Thank you.

-- 
Regards,
 Dmitry Smirnov.

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Message #101 received at 810853@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jakub Kruszona-Zawadzki <jakub.kruszona@gemius.com>
To: Dmitry Smirnov <onlyjob@debian.org>
Cc: Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>, 810853@bugs.debian.org, MooseFS Technical Support Department <dwt@moosefs.com>
Subject: Re: Bug#810853: RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2016 08:41:27 +0100
On 18 Jan, 2016, at 8:35, Dmitry Smirnov <onlyjob@debian.org> wrote:

> On Mon, 18 Jan 2016 07:23:30 AM Jakub Kruszona-Zawadzki wrote:
>> On 15 Jan, 2016, at 15:10, Dmitry Smirnov <onlyjob@debian.org> wrote:
>>> I had a glimpse at the packaging in the source archive 3.0.69 and I think
>>> it needs much more work before it could be uploaded (let alone my
>>> objections against introducing MooseFS to Debian). There are too many
>>> issues to list...
>> Could you enlight me? 'debian' folder looks almost the same in MooseFS and
>> LizardFS. What issues are you talking about? Some examples?
> 
> Please note that official Debian packaging is quite different from what you 
> can find in upstream repository. LizardFS team is not competent with 
> packaging and they barely touched it as far as I recall.
> 
> Obvious way to improve packaging would be to address Lintian warnings, 
> introduce support for Systemd etc. Sorry I don't have time for in-depth 
> review and at the moment I have no intention to sponsor MooseFS...

ok. Thank you. We have systemd support. We have it in our "rpm" tree, but it is probably very easy to adapt it to "debian" subtree.

> 
> 
>> Believe me or not, but we are very open to change some things in MooseFS.
>> As you maybe know we change licence of open source version to GPL and made
>> it freely available, so we always try to adapt to community necessities.
> 
> 
> That is very nice indeed. Thank you.
> 
> -- 
> Regards,
> Dmitry Smirnov.
> 
> ---
> 
> Success consists of going from failure to failure without loss of enthusiasm.
>        -- Winston Churchill

-- 
Regards,
Jakub Kruszona-Zawadzki
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Message #106 received at 810853@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org>
To: Jakub Kruszona-Zawadzki <jakub.kruszona@gemius.com>, 810853@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Dmitry Smirnov <onlyjob@debian.org>, Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>, MooseFS Technical Support Department <dwt@moosefs.com>
Subject: Re: Bug#810853: RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system
Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 09:08:20 +0000
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On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 08:41:27AM +0100, Jakub Kruszona-Zawadzki wrote:
> > Obvious way to improve packaging would be to address Lintian warnings, 
> > introduce support for Systemd etc. Sorry I don't have time for in-depth 
> > review and at the moment I have no intention to sponsor MooseFS...

Did anything happened here in the past 4+ months?

Dmitry setted the moreinfo tag (as this indeed need(ed) work), but I
anyway can't understand if he is an available sponsor for this.

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Message #111 received at 810853@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Dmitry Smirnov <onlyjob@debian.org>
To: Mattia Rizzolo <mattia@debian.org>
Cc: Jakub Kruszona-Zawadzki <jakub.kruszona@gemius.com>, 810853@bugs.debian.org, Piotr Robert Konopelko <piotr.konopelko@moosefs.com>, MooseFS Technical Support Department <dwt@moosefs.com>
Subject: Re: Bug#810853: RFS: moosefs/2.0.83-1 [ITP] -- fault tolerant, reliable, highly available, highly performing, scaling-out network distributed file system
Date: Mon, 23 May 2016 20:15:31 +1000
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On Monday, 23 May 2016 9:08:20 AM AEST Mattia Rizzolo wrote:
> Did anything happened here in the past 4+ months?

Not much from packaging prospective. Upstream however show some signs of 
improvement as they've started using GitHub:

  https://github.com/moosefs/moosefs


> Dmitry setted the moreinfo tag (as this indeed need(ed) work), but I
> anyway can't understand if he is an available sponsor for this.

I'm still busy so I can't make any promises regarding sponsorship.
However I am probably the best person to review packaging... As far as I'm 
aware they've never attempted to improve packaging so I doubt they can 
maintain it properly...
Last time I checked upstream packaging was too sloppy for upload.

I still have some concerns regarding inferior licensing [1] and I believe  
that MooseFS is redundant when we already have LizardFS.
I'm not against having alternative storage system which may have benefits 
like availability of different MySQL/MariaDB flavours...

[1]: https://github.com/moosefs/moosefs/issues/5

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