Debian Bug report logs - #802207
RFP: julia-gadfly -- plotting and data visualization system written in Julia

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: RFP: julia-gadfly

Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 13:13:04 +0200

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* Package name    : julia-gadfly
  Upstream Author : Daniel C. Jones
* URL             : http://gadflyjl.org/
* License         : Expat
  Programming Lang: Julia
  Description     : crafty statistical graphics for Julia

 Gadfly is a plotting and data visualization system written in Julia.
 .
 It's influenced heavily by Leland Wilkinson's book The Grammar of 
 Graphics and Hadley Wickham's refinement of that grammar in ggplot2.
 .
 Julia is a high-level, high-performance dynamic programming language 
 for technical computing, with syntax that is familiar to users of 
 other technical computing environments.

Package is needed by beaker-notebook (bug#795980) and the ShowMeBox 
project: https://wiki.debian.org/ShowMeBox - if interested, see also 
https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/showme-devel/2015-October/000050.html

Cc'ing Debian Julia Team in the hope they will pick this up.

 - Jonas

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Message #12 received at 802207@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Peter Colberg <peter@colberg.org>

To: Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk>, 802207@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Sébastien Villemot <sebastien@debian.org>, pkg-julia-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Pkg-julia-devel] Bug#802207: RFP: julia-gadfly

Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 19:22:17 -0400

Hi Jonas,

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 01:13:04PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Package is needed by beaker-notebook (bug#795980) and the ShowMeBox 
> project: https://wiki.debian.org/ShowMeBox - if interested, see also 
> https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/showme-devel/2015-October/000050.html
> 
> Cc'ing Debian Julia Team in the hope they will pick this up.

I am in the process of packaging Julia 0.4.0. To run on the hardware
considered for the ShowMeBox project, the julia package will first
have to be ported to the armhf architecture. Would you be interested
in helping with the porting?

Regarding julia-gadfly, so far no Julia packages have been packaged
for Debian, relying on users to install packages using Pkg.add().

@Sébastien: What are your thoughts on packaging Julia packages?

Regards,
Peter

Message #17 received at 802207@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk>

To: Peter Colberg <peter@colberg.org>, 802207@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Sébastien Villemot <sebastien@debian.org>, pkg-julia-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org, Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org>

Subject: Re: [Pkg-julia-devel] Bug#802207: RFP: julia-gadfly

Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 02:04:49 +0200

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Hi Peter,

Quoting Peter Colberg (2015-10-19 01:22:17)
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 01:13:04PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
>> Package is needed by beaker-notebook (bug#795980) and the ShowMeBox 
>> project: https://wiki.debian.org/ShowMeBox - if interested, see also 
>> https://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/showme-devel/2015-October/000050.html
>>
>> Cc'ing Debian Julia Team in the hope they will pick this up.
>
> I am in the process of packaging Julia 0.4.0. To run on the hardware
> considered for the ShowMeBox project, the julia package will first
> have to be ported to the armhf architecture. Would you be interested
> in helping with the porting?

I'd be happy to help as much as I can.  That said I do suspect Graham 
Inggs (now cc'ed) to be far better skilled than me.  You might have 
noticed him already, as he has worked for some time on getting Julia to 
work on armhf.


> Regarding julia-gadfly, so far no Julia packages have been packaged
> for Debian, relying on users to install packages using Pkg.add().
>
> @Sébastien: What are your thoughts on packaging Julia packages?

Not sure I follow you here: As I understand it, Gadfly is not a 
packaging system but a visualization system?!?

 - Jonas

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Message #22 received at 802207@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Graham Inggs <ginggs@debian.org>

To: Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk>, 802207@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#802207: [Pkg-julia-devel] Bug#802207: RFP: julia-gadfly

Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:25:41 +0200

On 19 October 2015 at 02:04, Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> wrote:
> Not sure I follow you here: As I understand it, Gadfly is not a
> packaging system but a visualization system?!?

Julia has a built-in package manager [1] which uses git for installing
Julia add-ons.
Gadfly has several dependencies [2]:

julia 0.3
Codecs
Colors 0.3.4
Compat
Compose 0.3.11
Contour
DataFrames 0.4.2
DataStructures
Dates
Distributions
Hexagons
Iterators 0.1.5
JSON
KernelDensity
Loess
Showoff 0.0.3
StatsBase

Installing Gadfly using Julia's package manager pulls in even more
packages (dependencies of dependencies, I guess), see the output
below.
I assume all of these would need to be packaged for Debian as well.
Sébastien, Peter, is this correct?

[1] http://docs.julialang.org/en/release-0.3/manual/packages/
[2] https://github.com/dcjones/Gadfly.jl/blob/master/REQUIRE


julia> Pkg.update()
INFO: Initializing package repository /home/ginggs/.julia/v0.3
INFO: Cloning METADATA from git://github.com/JuliaLang/METADATA.jl
INFO: Updating METADATA...
INFO: Computing changes...
INFO: No packages to install, update or remove

julia> Pkg.add("Gadfly")
INFO: Cloning cache of ArrayViews from
git://github.com/JuliaLang/ArrayViews.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of Calculus from
git://github.com/johnmyleswhite/Calculus.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of Codecs from git://github.com/dcjones/Codecs.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of ColorTypes from
git://github.com/JuliaGraphics/ColorTypes.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of Colors from git://github.com/JuliaGraphics/Colors.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of Compat from git://github.com/JuliaLang/Compat.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of Compose from git://github.com/dcjones/Compose.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of Contour from git://github.com/tlycken/Contour.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of DataArrays from
git://github.com/JuliaStats/DataArrays.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of DataFrames from
git://github.com/JuliaStats/DataFrames.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of DataStructures from
git://github.com/JuliaLang/DataStructures.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of Dates from git://github.com/quinnj/Dates.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of Distances from
git://github.com/JuliaStats/Distances.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of Distributions from
git://github.com/JuliaStats/Distributions.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of Docile from
git://github.com/MichaelHatherly/Docile.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of DualNumbers from
git://github.com/JuliaDiff/DualNumbers.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of FixedPointNumbers from
git://github.com/JeffBezanson/FixedPointNumbers.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of GZip from git://github.com/JuliaLang/GZip.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of Gadfly from git://github.com/dcjones/Gadfly.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of Grid from git://github.com/timholy/Grid.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of Hexagons from git://github.com/dcjones/Hexagons.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of ImmutableArrays from
git://github.com/JuliaGeometry/ImmutableArrays.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of Iterators from
git://github.com/JuliaLang/Iterators.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of JSON from git://github.com/JuliaLang/JSON.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of KernelDensity from
git://github.com/JuliaStats/KernelDensity.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of Loess from git://github.com/dcjones/Loess.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of NaNMath from git://github.com/mlubin/NaNMath.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of Optim from git://github.com/JuliaOpt/Optim.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of PDMats from git://github.com/JuliaStats/PDMats.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of Reexport from git://github.com/simonster/Reexport.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of Showoff from git://github.com/dcjones/Showoff.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of SortingAlgorithms from
git://github.com/JuliaLang/SortingAlgorithms.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of StatsBase from
git://github.com/JuliaStats/StatsBase.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of StatsFuns from
git://github.com/JuliaStats/StatsFuns.jl.git
INFO: Cloning cache of WoodburyMatrices from
git://github.com/timholy/WoodburyMatrices.jl.git
INFO: Installing ArrayViews v0.6.4
INFO: Installing Calculus v0.1.13
INFO: Installing Codecs v0.1.5
INFO: Installing ColorTypes v0.1.7
INFO: Installing Colors v0.5.4
INFO: Installing Compat v0.7.6
INFO: Installing Compose v0.3.17
INFO: Installing Contour v0.0.8
INFO: Installing DataArrays v0.2.19
INFO: Installing DataFrames v0.6.10
INFO: Installing DataStructures v0.3.13
INFO: Installing Dates v0.3.2
INFO: Installing Distances v0.2.1
INFO: Installing Distributions v0.8.7
INFO: Installing Docile v0.5.19
INFO: Installing DualNumbers v0.1.5
INFO: Installing FixedPointNumbers v0.0.12
INFO: Installing GZip v0.2.18
INFO: Installing Gadfly v0.3.17
INFO: Installing Grid v0.3.11
INFO: Installing Hexagons v0.0.4
INFO: Installing ImmutableArrays v0.0.11
INFO: Installing Iterators v0.1.9
INFO: Installing JSON v0.5.0
INFO: Installing KernelDensity v0.1.2
INFO: Installing Loess v0.0.5
INFO: Installing NaNMath v0.1.1
INFO: Installing Optim v0.4.4
INFO: Installing PDMats v0.3.6
INFO: Installing Reexport v0.0.3
INFO: Installing Showoff v0.0.6
INFO: Installing SortingAlgorithms v0.0.6
INFO: Installing StatsBase v0.7.4
INFO: Installing StatsFuns v0.1.4
INFO: Installing WoodburyMatrices v0.1.2
INFO: Package database updated

Message #27 received at 802207@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk>

To: 802207@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#802207: [Pkg-julia-devel] Bug#802207: RFP: julia-gadfly

Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 16:48:53 +0200

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Quoting Graham Inggs (2015-10-21 16:25:41)
> On 19 October 2015 at 02:04, Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> wrote:
>> Not sure I follow you here: As I understand it, Gadfly is not a 
>> packaging system but a visualization system?!?
>
> Julia has a built-in package manager [1] which uses git for installing 
> Julia add-ons.
[...]
> I assume all of [the dependencies of Gadfly which upstream is handled 
> via git] would need to be packaged for Debian as well.

Yes, Debian packages need to work, so all dependencies that correlates 
to Debian "Build-Depends:", "Depends:" or "Recommends:" need to be 
packaged as well.  Build routines must avoid any reliance on network 
access.

Weaker dependencies correlating to Debian "Suggests:" preferrably should 
be packaged too, but may be skipped.

 - Jonas

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