Debian Bug report logs - #786946
lintian: false positive: icc-profiles *are* free

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Package: lintian; Maintainer for lintian is Debian Lintian Maintainers <lintian-maint@debian.org>; Source for lintian is src:lintian (PTS, buildd, popcon).

Reported by: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>

Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 04:33:01 UTC

Severity: important

Tags: upstream

Found in version lintian/2.5.31

Done: Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>

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From: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: lintian: false positive: icc-profiles *are* free
Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 13:18:38 +0900
Package: lintian
Version: 2.5.31
Severity: important

Dear all,

while building TeX Live package I got warned by lintian that the
ICC profile 
	sRGB_IEC61966-2-1_black_scaled.icc
is unfree, and lintian helpfully related me to the package
	icc-profiles
(in Debugs-CC header).

Now checking the copyright file of icc-profiles and the *actual*
copyright statement on the download page:
	http://www.color.org/profiles2.xalter
states clearly:

**************************
 Licensing

 The copyright owner and terms of use of an ICC profile are normally identified in the Creator field in the profile header and in the Copyright tag. Where ICC is the copyright owner, the following license terms apply:

 "This profile is made available by the International Color Consortium, and may be copied, distributed, embedded, made, used, and sold without restriction. Altered versions of this profile shall have the original identification and copyright information removed and shall not be misrepresented as the original profile." 
***************************

On the other hand, the icc-profiles package lists the copyright in a 
different form:
*******************
Files: sRGB_* ISO22028*
Copyright: International Color Consortium <icc_users@lists.color.org>
License: ICC
 To anyone who acknowledges that the files
 "sRGB_IEC61966-2-1_no_black_scaling.icc" and
 "sRGB_IEC61966-2-1_black scaled.icc" are provided "AS IS" WITH NO
 EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTY, permission to use, copy and distribute
 these file for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided
 that the files are not changed including the ICC copyright notice
 tag, and that the name of ICC shall not be used in advertising or
 publicity pertaining to distribution of the software without
 specific, written prior permission. ICC makes no representations
 about the suitability of this software for any purpose.
******************************

I would therefor suggest two steps:
* first move the ICC profiles to
	icc-profiles-free
* remove the lintian error

Thanks

Norbert

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Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 4.1.0-rc5 (SMP w/4 CPU cores; PREEMPT)
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Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages lintian depends on:
ii  binutils                       2.25-7
ii  bzip2                          1.0.6-8
ii  diffstat                       1.58-1
ii  file                           1:5.22+15-2
ii  gettext                        0.19.4-1
ii  hardening-includes             2.7
ii  intltool-debian                0.35.0+20060710.2
ii  libapt-pkg-perl                0.1.29+b2
ii  libarchive-zip-perl            1.39-1
ii  libclass-accessor-perl         0.34-1
ii  libclone-perl                  0.38-1
ii  libdpkg-perl                   1.18.0
ii  libemail-valid-perl            1.195-1
ii  libfile-basedir-perl           0.03-1
ii  libipc-run-perl                0.94-1
ii  liblist-moreutils-perl         0.410-1
ii  libparse-debianchangelog-perl  1.2.0-3
ii  libtext-levenshtein-perl       0.12-1
ii  libtimedate-perl               2.3000-2
ii  liburi-perl                    1.64-1
ii  man-db                         2.7.0.2-5
ii  patchutils                     0.3.4-1
ii  perl [libdigest-sha-perl]      5.20.2-6
ii  t1utils                        1.38-4
ii  xz-utils                       5.1.1alpha+20120614-2+b3

Versions of packages lintian recommends:
ii  dpkg                            1.18.0
ii  libautodie-perl                 2.25-1
ii  libperlio-gzip-perl             0.18-3+b1
ii  perl                            5.20.2-6
ii  perl-modules [libautodie-perl]  5.20.2-6

Versions of packages lintian suggests:
pn  binutils-multiarch     <none>
ii  dpkg-dev               1.18.0
ii  libhtml-parser-perl    3.71-1+b3
ii  libtext-template-perl  1.46-1
ii  libyaml-perl           1.13-1

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From: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>
To: 786946@bugs.debian.org, Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>
Subject: Re: lintian: false positive: icc-profiles *are* free
Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 12:34:48 +0800
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On Wed, 27 May 2015 13:18:38 +0900  wrote:

>  "This profile is made available by the International Color
Consortium, and may be copied, distributed, embedded, made, used, and
sold without restriction. Altered versions of this profile shall have
the original identification and copyright information removed and shall
not be misrepresented as the original profile." 

This doesn't appear to give permission to modify the ICC profiles?

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From: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>
To: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>
Cc: 786946@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: lintian: false positive: icc-profiles *are* free
Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 13:43:28 +0900
Hi Paul,

On Wed, 27 May 2015, Paul Wise wrote:
> >  "This profile is made available by the International Color
> Consortium, and may be copied, distributed, embedded, made, used, and
> sold without restriction. Altered versions of this profile shall have
> the original identification and copyright information removed and shall
> not be misrepresented as the original profile." 
> 
> This doesn't appear to give permission to modify the ICC profiles?

As with LPPL (1.3c, Clause 5&6) and many other programs (tex itself), 
if you change it, change the name.  Changes *are* allowed.  

The license statement in icc-profiles does not allow for selling,
AFAIS. That is the main stumbling block, IMHO.

ALl the best

Norbert

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Message #20 received at 786946@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>
To: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>
Cc: 786946@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: lintian: false positive: icc-profiles *are* free
Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 13:09:28 +0800
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On Wed, 2015-05-27 at 13:43 +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:

> Changes *are* allowed.  

Can you quote the part of the license that allows changes?
I must be going blind because I cannot see it.

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From: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>
To: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>
Cc: 786946@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: lintian: false positive: icc-profiles *are* free
Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 14:15:33 +0900
On Wed, 27 May 2015, Paul Wise wrote:
> Can you quote the part of the license that allows changes?

	Altered versions of this profile shall have the original
	identification and copyright information removed and shall
	not be misrepresented as the original profile.

Doesn't that clearly state that *altering* the files is allowed,
under usual renaming clauses.

Norbert

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Message #30 received at 786946@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>
To: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>
Cc: 786946@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: lintian: false positive: icc-profiles *are* free
Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 13:22:40 +0800
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On Wed, 2015-05-27 at 14:15 +0900, Norbert Preining wrote:
> On Wed, 27 May 2015, Paul Wise wrote:
> > Can you quote the part of the license that allows changes?
> 
> 	Altered versions of this profile shall have the original
> 	identification and copyright information removed and shall
> 	not be misrepresented as the original profile.
> 
> Doesn't that clearly state that *altering* the files is allowed,
> under usual renaming clauses.

Doesn't appear to be a clear statement to me. I would expect something
like ... and may be *modified*, copied ... in the other part.

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From: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>
To: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>
Cc: 786946@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: lintian: false positive: icc-profiles *are* free
Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 15:28:59 +0900
Hi Paul,

On Wed, 27 May 2015, Paul Wise wrote:
> Doesn't appear to be a clear statement to me. I would expect something
> like ... and may be *modified*, copied ... in the other part.

Umpf, is this something we have to bring to debian-legal?
IANAL, but I see *several* open source projects including these iccs
nowadays.

Anyway, I am out here. There is nothing more I can contribute
(besides that I simply will add a lintian override)

All the best

Norbert

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From: Bastien Roucaries <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>
To: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>,786946@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#786946: lintian: false positive: icc-profiles *are* free
Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 23:02:08 +0200

Le 27 mai 2015 08:28:59 GMT+02:00, Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at> a écrit :
>Hi Paul,
>
>On Wed, 27 May 2015, Paul Wise wrote:
>> Doesn't appear to be a clear statement to me. I would expect
>something
>> like ... and may be *modified*, copied ... in the other part.
>
>Umpf, is this something we have to bring to debian-legal?
>IANAL, but I see *several* open source projects including these iccs
>nowadays.
>
>Anyway, I am out here. There is nothing more I can contribute
>(besides that I simply will add a lintian override)

Override does not work un this case. Ftpmaster will autoreject
>
>All the best
>
>Norbert
>
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From: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>
To: Bastien Roucaries <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>
Cc: 786946@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#786946: lintian: false positive: icc-profiles *are* free
Date: Thu, 28 May 2015 07:48:24 +0900
On Wed, 27 May 2015, Bastien Roucaries wrote:
> >Anyway, I am out here. There is nothing more I can contribute
> >(besides that I simply will add a lintian override)
> 
> Override does not work un this case. Ftpmaster will autoreject

Huuu, how can a wrong lintian warning/error be a reason for
ftpmaster autoreject when it is overridden.

There is a new license statement included in the packages I made,
and if *lintian* believes it is wrong, so it might be, but that
does not mean it is like that. THis is open for debian-legal 
to decide, not lintian.

Norbert

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Message #50 received at 786946@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Bastien Roucaries <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>
To: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>
Cc: 786946@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#786946: lintian: false positive: icc-profiles *are* free
Date: Sat, 30 May 2015 15:18:11 +0200

Le 28 mai 2015 00:48:24 GMT+02:00, Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at> a écrit :
>On Wed, 27 May 2015, Bastien Roucaries wrote:
>> >Anyway, I am out here. There is nothing more I can contribute
>> >(besides that I simply will add a lintian override)
>> 
>> Override does not work un this case. Ftpmaster will autoreject
>
>Huuu, how can a wrong lintian warning/error be a reason for
>ftpmaster autoreject when it is overridden.
>
>There is a new license statement included in the packages I made,
>and if *lintian* believes it is wrong, so it might be, but that
>does not mean it is like that. THis is open for debian-legal 
>to decide, not lintian.


Please ask an official statement from ftpmaster (open a bug) about thé new license. And block this bug by the ftpmaster one. I will be  glad to do everything at ftpmaster guidance

I have added these files in order to ease  FTPmaster work and with their blessing.

I do not want to substituée with ftpmaster.

Bastien
>
>Norbert
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From: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>
To: Bastien Roucaries <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>
Cc: 786946@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#786946: lintian: false positive: icc-profiles *are* free
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 00:43:37 +0900
block 786946 by 787338
thanks

Hi Bastien,

On Sat, 30 May 2015, Bastien Roucaries wrote:
> Please ask an official statement from ftpmaster (open a bug) about thé new license. And block this bug by the ftpmaster one. I will be  glad to do everything at ftpmaster guidance

Thanks for the suggestion, I have done this now.

Norbert

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From: Mark Hymers <mhy@debian.org>
To: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>, 787338@bugs.debian.org
Cc: 786946@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#787338: ftp.debian.org: incorrect lintian error leads to auto-rejection
Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2015 23:33:45 +0100
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On Mon, 01, Jun, 2015 at 12:38:46AM +0900, Norbert Preining spoke thus..
> **************************                              
> Licensing                    
> 
> The copyright owner and terms of use of an ICC profile are normally identified
> in the Creator field in the profile header and in the Copyright tag. Where ICC
> is the copyright owner, the following license terms apply:
>                             
> "This profile is made available by the International Color Consortium, and may
> be copied, distributed, embedded, made, used, and sold without restriction.
> Altered versions of this profile shall have the original identification and
> copyright information removed and shall not be misrepresented as the original
> profile."
> ***************************
> 
> Paul Wise mentioned in his remarks on the lintian bug 786946 that the *new*
> license does not allow for modifications, which I consider an "interesting"
> interpretation, since the second sentence clearly states that
> 	Altered versions of this profile ...
> which can of course only exist if modifications are allowed.
> 
> Anyway, at least several OSS projects seem to have no problem with this
> license, thus I ask for a clarification from side of the ftp-masters, as
> requested by Bastien Roucaries in the above mentioned bug report
> against lintian.

Hi Norbert / Lintian maintainers,

As requested, we discussed this license at the ftp-team IRC meeting.

We're satifisfied that the intention is to allow modification and would
therefore ask the lintian maintainers to consider changing the check.

Thanks,

Mark (on behalf of the ftp-team).

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From: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>
To: Mark Hymers <mhy@debian.org>
Cc: 787338@bugs.debian.org, 786946@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#787338: ftp.debian.org: incorrect lintian error leads to auto-rejection
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 07:37:56 +0900
Hi Mark,

On Sun, 28 Jun 2015, Mark Hymers wrote:
> We're satifisfied that the intention is to allow modification and would
> therefore ask the lintian maintainers to consider changing the check.

Thanks a lot!

Norbert

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From: Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>
To: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>, 786946@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Mark Hymers <mhy@debian.org>, 787338@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#786946: Bug#787338: ftp.debian.org: incorrect lintian error leads to auto-rejection
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:16:25 +0200
Dear norbert,


Could you check if the term you quote really apply to the file
sRGB_IEC61966-2-1_black_scaled.icc   ? I think the term you quote
apply only to test profile. Care to prod upstream ?

Maybe the website is not updated....

Thanks

Bastien


*  See http://www.color.org/srgbprofiles.xalter

Before downloading
sRGB_IEC61966-2-1_black_scaled.icc I must agree to this non free legal term:

v2 profiles
An ICC version 2 (v2) sRGB profiles is provided below, with XYZ black
point scaling to zero. This 'black scaled' profile has the preferred
rendering intent in the header set to 'perceptual'.
The profile contains the standard linearized Bradford D65 to D50
chromatic adaptation tag (this tag was often not present in older sRGB
profiles), and the media white point tag is set to D50 (as is required
for ICC v4 display profiles). This avoids the inappropriate color
casts that older sRGB v2 ICC profiles sometimes produced when the
absolute colorimetric intent was used.
The profile will work correctly when either Black Point Compensation
(BPC) is on in the CMM/application, or the other profile transform to
be used for the conversion is also black scaled. Black scaled profiles
are needed when BPC is desired for the conversion but the CMM to be
used does not support BPC. Most v2 sRGB profiles in current use are
black scaled because they are intended to be used as the source
profile in conversions where the destination profile perceptual intent
will be used (v2 perceptual transforms typically include black
scaling).
NOTE: This profile was revised in February 2015 to bring the black
point tag into alignment with current ISO and IEC recommendations.

Terms of use

To anyone who acknowledges that the file "sRGB_IEC61966-2-1_black
scaled.icc" is provided "AS IS" WITH NO EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTY,
permission to use, copy and distribute these file for any purpose is
hereby granted without fee, provided that the file is not changed
including the ICC copyright notice tag, and that the name of ICC shall
not be used in advertising or publicity pertaining to distribution of
the software without specific, written prior permission. ICC makes no
representations about the suitability of this software for any
purpose.

 sRGB_IEC61966-2-1_black_scaled.icc

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 12:37 AM, Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at> wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> On Sun, 28 Jun 2015, Mark Hymers wrote:
>> We're satifisfied that the intention is to allow modification and would
>> therefore ask the lintian maintainers to consider changing the check.
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Norbert
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> PREINING, Norbert                               http://www.preining.info
> JAIST, Japan                                 TeX Live & Debian Developer
> GPG: 0x860CDC13   fp: F7D8 A928 26E3 16A1 9FA0  ACF0 6CAC A448 860C DC13
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>



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Bug#786946; Package lintian. (Mon, 29 Jun 2015 08:27:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>:
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Message #77 received at 786946@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>
To: askphil@colourspace.demon.co.uk
Cc: 786946@bugs.debian.org, Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>
Subject: contradictory license term for icc profile on your web sit
Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 10:25:55 +0200
control: tags -1 + upstream

Dear phil

Some file on your website seems to have contradictory license terms:

On http://www.color.org/profiles2.xalter you said:

> The copyright owner and terms of use of an ICC profile are normally identified in the Creator field in
> the profile header and in the Copyright tag. Where ICC is the copyright owner, the following
> license terms apply:

> "This profile is made available by the International Color Consortium, and may be copied,
>distributed, embedded, made, used, and sold without restriction. Altered versions of this profile
>shall have the original identification and copyright information removed and shall not be
>misrepresented as the original profile."

>ICC recommends that other profile creators and copyright owners adopt a similar wording for
>profiles that are intended to be freely distributed. See the Profile Registration page for more details.

However on http://www.color.org/srgbprofiles.xalter you said:
>To anyone who acknowledges that the file "sRGB_IEC61966-2-1_black scaled.icc" is provided "AS
>IS" WITH NO EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTY, permission to use, copy and distribute these
>file for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided that the file is not changed including the
>ICC copyright notice tag, and that the name of ICC shall not be used in advertising or publicity
>pertaining to distribution of the software without specific, written prior permission. ICC makes no
>representations about the suitability of this software for any purpose.

Could you document clearly what is the license term of individual file ?

Bastien

PS: in order to include only once the license term on your website you
could use jquery
like this
<html>
  <head>
    <script src="jquery.js"></script>
    <script>
    $(function(){
      $("#includedContent").load("b.html");
    });
    </script>
  </head>

  <body>
     <div id="includedContent"></div>
  </body>
</html>



Added tag(s) upstream. Request was from Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com> to 786946-submit@bugs.debian.org. (Mon, 29 Jun 2015 08:27:06 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Debian Lintian Maintainers <lintian-maint@debian.org>:
Bug#786946; Package lintian. (Tue, 21 Jul 2015 19:27:10 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


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Message #84 received at 786946@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>
To: Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>, 786946@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>
Subject: Re: Bug#786946: contradictory license term for icc profile on your web sit
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 21:22:33 +0200
Dear Phil,

I suppose you missed the previous mail. So I resend.

Bastien

On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Bastien ROUCARIES
<roucaries.bastien@gmail.com> wrote:
> control: tags -1 + upstream
>
> Dear phil
>
> Some file on your website seems to have contradictory license terms:
>
> On http://www.color.org/profiles2.xalter you said:
>
>> The copyright owner and terms of use of an ICC profile are normally identified in the Creator field in
>> the profile header and in the Copyright tag. Where ICC is the copyright owner, the following
>> license terms apply:
>
>> "This profile is made available by the International Color Consortium, and may be copied,
>>distributed, embedded, made, used, and sold without restriction. Altered versions of this profile
>>shall have the original identification and copyright information removed and shall not be
>>misrepresented as the original profile."
>
>>ICC recommends that other profile creators and copyright owners adopt a similar wording for
>>profiles that are intended to be freely distributed. See the Profile Registration page for more details.
>
> However on http://www.color.org/srgbprofiles.xalter you said:
>>To anyone who acknowledges that the file "sRGB_IEC61966-2-1_black scaled.icc" is provided "AS
>>IS" WITH NO EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTY, permission to use, copy and distribute these
>>file for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided that the file is not changed including the
>>ICC copyright notice tag, and that the name of ICC shall not be used in advertising or publicity
>>pertaining to distribution of the software without specific, written prior permission. ICC makes no
>>representations about the suitability of this software for any purpose.
>
> Could you document clearly what is the license term of individual file ?
>
> Bastien
>
> PS: in order to include only once the license term on your website you
> could use jquery
> like this
> <html>
>   <head>
>     <script src="jquery.js"></script>
>     <script>
>     $(function(){
>       $("#includedContent").load("b.html");
>     });
>     </script>
>   </head>
>
>   <body>
>      <div id="includedContent"></div>
>   </body>
> </html>
>



Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Debian Lintian Maintainers <lintian-maint@debian.org>:
Bug#786946; Package lintian. (Sun, 08 Jan 2017 21:00:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>:
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Message #89 received at 786946@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>
To: Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>, 786946@bugs.debian.org, green@colourspace.demon.co.uk
Cc: askphil@colourspace.demon.co.uk, Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>
Subject: Re: Bug#786946: contradictory license term for icc profile on your web sit
Date: Sun, 8 Jan 2017 21:56:34 +0100
Resent, one more year
>
> Dear phil
>
> Some file on your website seems to have contradictory license terms:
>
> On http://www.color.org/profiles2.xalter you said:
>
>> The copyright owner and terms of use of an ICC profile are normally identified in the Creator field in
>> the profile header and in the Copyright tag. Where ICC is the copyright owner, the following
>> license terms apply:
>
>> "This profile is made available by the International Color Consortium, and may be copied,
>>distributed, embedded, made, used, and sold without restriction. Altered versions of this profile
>>shall have the original identification and copyright information removed and shall not be
>>misrepresented as the original profile."
>
>>ICC recommends that other profile creators and copyright owners adopt a similar wording for
>>profiles that are intended to be freely distributed. See the Profile Registration page for more details.
>
> However on http://www.color.org/srgbprofiles.xalter you said:
>>To anyone who acknowledges that the file "sRGB_IEC61966-2-1_black scaled.icc" is provided "AS
>>IS" WITH NO EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTY, permission to use, copy and distribute these
>>file for any purpose is hereby granted without fee, provided that the file is not changed including the
>>ICC copyright notice tag, and that the name of ICC shall not be used in advertising or publicity
>>pertaining to distribution of the software without specific, written prior permission. ICC makes no
>>representations about the suitability of this software for any purpose.
>
> Could you document clearly what is the license term of individual file ?
>
> Bastien
>
> PS: in order to include only once the license term on your website you
> could use jquery
> like this
> <html>
>   <head>
>     <script src="jquery.js"></script>
>     <script>
>     $(function(){
>       $("#includedContent").load("b.html");
>     });
>     </script>
>   </head>
>
>   <body>
>      <div id="includedContent"></div>
>   </body>
> </html>
>



Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Debian Lintian Maintainers <lintian-maint@debian.org>:
Bug#786946; Package lintian. (Sun, 12 Feb 2017 19:18:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to web301@s3.kameleo.ch:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Debian Lintian Maintainers <lintian-maint@debian.org>. (Sun, 12 Feb 2017 19:18:03 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Reply sent to Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>:
You have taken responsibility. (Sun, 12 Mar 2017 20:09:13 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Notification sent to Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>:
Bug acknowledged by developer. (Sun, 12 Mar 2017 20:09:13 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Message #99 received at 786946-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>
To: 787338@bugs.debian.org, Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>, 786946-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Not free icc profile are not free
Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2017 21:07:06 +0100
Upstream clarify licence, see http://www.color.org/srgbprofiles.xalter

not free

Bastien



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