Debian Bug report logs - #785846
xfce4-mixer: Please update to GStreamer 1.x

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Message #5 received at maintonly@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: slomo@debian.org

To: maintonly@bugs.debian.org

Subject: xfce4-mixer: Please update to GStreamer 1.x

Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 16:03:06 +0300

Source: xfce4-mixer
Severity: important
User: slomo@debian.org
Usertags: gstreamer0.10-removal

Hi maintainer,

your package xfce4-mixer currently still depends on GStreamer 0.10.

GStreamer 0.10 is no longer maintained and supported by the upstream
project since almost 3 years, and contains many known bugs that are
fixed in the new 1.x release series of GStreamer. Next to many bug
fixes, the new release series also contains many other improvements,
new features and a more streamlined API.

For the next Debian release GStreamer 0.10 is planned to be removed,
and if your package is not updated it might not be included in the
release. Please update your package to use the new version as soon as
possible.

If you need any help with porting or have further questions, please
feel free to also contact me privately.

Best regards, Sebastian

PS: See https://bugs.debian.org/785198 and
https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2015/05/msg00335.html for some
further discussion.

Message #10 received at 785846@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac@debian.org>

To: slomo@debian.org, 785846@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#785846: xfce4-mixer: Please update to GStreamer 1.x

Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 16:22:01 +0200

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On mer., 2015-05-20 at 16:03 +0300, slomo@debian.org wrote:
> For the next Debian release GStreamer 0.10 is planned to be removed,
> and if your package is not updated it might not be included in the
> release. Please update your package to use the new version as soon as
> possible.

Then please update gstreamer1.0 to bring back mixer API? :)

Joke aside, porting won't be possible, and it's not sure what can be
done besides that, so the only solution might be to remove the package.

Regards,
-- 
Yves-Alexis

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Message #15 received at 785846@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sebastian Dröge <slomo@debian.org>

To: Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac@debian.org>

Cc: 785846@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#785846: xfce4-mixer: Please update to GStreamer 1.x

Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 17:30:36 +0300

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On Mi, 2015-05-20 at 16:22 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> On mer., 2015-05-20 at 16:03 +0300, slomo@debian.org wrote:
> > For the next Debian release GStreamer 0.10 is planned to be removed,
> > and if your package is not updated it might not be included in the
> > release. Please update your package to use the new version as soon as
> > possible.
> 
> Then please update gstreamer1.0 to bring back mixer API? :)

If you have a proposal for a new API for that, it might be taken into
consideration :) The problem with the old API was that it was mostly
useless and suboptimal for most applications (except apparently
xfce4-mixer), and did not fit the GStreamer API model very well.

I think the API that PulseAudio provides for mixer settings is much
saner, and also abstracting whatever sound system is actually running
beneath it.

> Joke aside, porting won't be possible, and it's not sure what can be
> done besides that, so the only solution might be to remove the package.

Alternatively you could use native mixer APIs instead, like whatever
libasound2, libpulse and maybe OSS provide. That worked fine for GNOME
until they just dropped support for everything except PulseAudio.

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Message #20 received at 785846@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac@debian.org>

To: Sebastian Dröge <slomo@debian.org>

Cc: 785846@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#785846: xfce4-mixer: Please update to GStreamer 1.x

Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 21:38:58 +0200

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On mer., 2015-05-20 at 17:30 +0300, Sebastian Dröge wrote:
> On Mi, 2015-05-20 at 16:22 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> I think the API that PulseAudio provides for mixer settings is much
> saner, and also abstracting whatever sound system is actually running
> beneath it.

There's already a pulseaudio plugin (not yet in Debian, but that could
happen soon). But I personnaly dislike pulseaudio (and its need for a
daemon) and won't force it to Debian Xfce users. 

> > Joke aside, porting won't be possible, and it's not sure what can be
> > done besides that, so the only solution might be to remove the package.
> 
> Alternatively you could use native mixer APIs instead, like whatever
> libasound2, libpulse and maybe OSS provide. That worked fine for GNOME
> until they just dropped support for everything except PulseAudio.

Yeah, unfortunately someone has to do the work upstream, and not much
people have expressed interest in that.

Regards,
-- 
Yves-Alexis

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Message #29 received at 785846@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org>

To: Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac@debian.org>

Cc: Sebastian Dröge <slomo@debian.org>, 785846@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#785846: xfce4-mixer: Please update to GStreamer 1.x

Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 18:19:30 +0200

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 09:38:58PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> Yeah, unfortunately someone has to do the work upstream, and not much
> people have expressed interest in that.

Can we drop xfce4-mixer from xfce4's Depends, so that it can be dropped
from testing (or even sid) until someone has done the work?

The list of packages blocking gstreamer 0.10's removal from testing
has shrunk quite a bit.

Cheers,
        Moritz

Message #34 received at 785846@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac@debian.org>

To: Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org>, 785846@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Sebastian Dröge <slomo@debian.org>

Subject: Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#785846: Bug#785846: xfce4-mixer: Please update to GStreamer 1.x

Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 21:57:27 +0200

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On lun., 2015-10-19 at 18:19 +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 09:38:58PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> > Yeah, unfortunately someone has to do the work upstream, and not much
> > people have expressed interest in that.
> 
> Can we drop xfce4-mixer from xfce4's Depends, so that it can be dropped
> from testing (or even sid) until someone has done the work?
> 
> The list of packages blocking gstreamer 0.10's removal from testing
> has shrunk quite a bit.

I was actually waiting for xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin to make it out of NEW, but
if it takes too much time I can try that option. I'd prefer not having no
volume control at all, though.

Regards,
-- 
Yves-Alexis

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Message #39 received at 785846@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac@debian.org>

To: 785846@bugs.debian.org, Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org>

Cc: Sebastian Dröge <slomo@debian.org>

Subject: Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#785846: Bug#785846: Bug#785846: xfce4-mixer: Please update to GStreamer 1.x

Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2015 14:08:35 +0200

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On lun., 2015-10-19 at 21:57 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> On lun., 2015-10-19 at 18:19 +0200, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> > On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 09:38:58PM +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
> > > Yeah, unfortunately someone has to do the work upstream, and not much
> > > people have expressed interest in that.
> > 
> > Can we drop xfce4-mixer from xfce4's Depends, so that it can be dropped
> > from testing (or even sid) until someone has done the work?
> > 
> > The list of packages blocking gstreamer 0.10's removal from testing
> > has shrunk quite a bit.
> 
> I was actually waiting for xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin to make it out of NEW,
> but
> if it takes too much time I can try that option. I'd prefer not having no
> volume control at all, though.
> 
Pulseaudio plugin was ACCEPTED today, so I've just pushed a xfce4 package with
xfce4-mixer dependency replaced by xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin.

Regards,
-- 
Yves-Alexis

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Cc: xfce4-mixer@packages.debian.org, xfce4-mixer@packages.qa.debian.org

Subject: Bug#804261: Removed package(s) from unstable

Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2015 10:29:32 +0000

Version: 4.10.0-3+rm

Dear submitter,

as the package xfce4-mixer has just been removed from the Debian archive
unstable we hereby close the associated bug reports.  We are sorry
that we couldn't deal with your issue properly.

For details on the removal, please see https://bugs.debian.org/804261

The version of this package that was in Debian prior to this removal
can still be found using http://snapshot.debian.org/.

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