Debian Bug report logs - #783732
mailman: please package mailman 3 released today

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: shirish <shirish@hamaralinux.org>

To: debian-bts <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: mailman: please package mailman 3 released today

Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2015 20:59:12 +0530

Package: mailman
Version: 1:2.1.18-2
Severity: wishlist

Dear Maintainer,
Please package mailman 3 which was released today. From the announce mail :-

Twenty years ago, I attended the first Python Workshop at NIST with
about 20 other old school Pythonistas. Earlier this month I attended
PyCon 2015 in Montreal. PyCon is always exhilarating, but this one was
incredibly special for me personally, because my son was on spring break 
and joined me for the first half of the conference.

Both the Python language and its community have grown a little bit
<wink> in the intervening years, but what hasn't changed is our love of
the language, and the truly amazing people we share that love with.  The 
Python community really is one of the very best open source communities 
on the planet.

The best community inside that great Python family has to be the GNU
Mailman team. They're all smart and cool, fun to hang out with, and fun
to hack with. With diverse backgrounds, each and every one are good
friends and valued technical peers. As has been the case for the last
few years, we've sprinted on Mailman 3, getting lots of great work done, 
but never quite getting something we were satisfied enough with to 
release. The first alpha of Mailman 3 was released a little over 7 years 
ago.

And so I'm here --and on behalf of Abhilash, Aurélien, Florian, John,
Mark, Stephen, Sumana, Terri, our GSoC students, and all the great
people who have contributed over the years-- to proudly announce the
official release of GNU Mailman 3.0, code named "Show Don't Tell".

Mailman 3 is really a suite of 5 tools:

 * The core, which provides the mail delivery engine, the unified user
model, moderation and modification of email messages, and interfaces to
external archivers;

 * Postorius, our new Django-based web user interface for users and list
   administrators;

 * HyperKitty, our new Django-based web archiver, providing rich access
to the historical record of mailing list traffic;

 * mailman.client, the official Python bindings to the core's REST API;

 * mailman-bundler, a set of scripts to make it easy to deploy the full
   suite inside Python virtual environments.

What's new about Mailman 3?  Well, lots!  Some highlights include:

 * Backed by a relational database;

 * True support for multiple domains, with no cross-domain mailing list
naming restrictions;

 * One user account to manage all your subscriptions on a site;

 * The core's functionality exposed through an administrative REST+JSON
API;

 * All passwords hashed by default, and no monthly password reminders!

 * Users can post to lists via the web interface;

 * Built-in archive searching!

and more.  Tons more.

There will be things you love about Mailman 3, and things you don't
like. You'll glimpse great possibilities and glaring holes.  You'll be
excited and frustrated.  Such is life with an all-volunteer free
software project.

For the things you like, and the exciting possibilities, we encourage
you to experiment, to do wacky things we haven't thought of, integrate
it with your own tools, or just carefully go about deploying a Mailman 3 
system.  Tell us how you're using it!

For the things you don't like, we invite you to join us.  Come to the
mailing list <mailman-developers@python.org> and talk with us.  Submit
bug reports and pull requests.  Help us close the gaps and make Mailman
3 better.

Whether your interests are for Internet RFCs, web site development,
operations, or you just want to find a fun Python project to hack on
with cool people, as they say, contributions are welcome.

See the release notes, as well as links to download each component:

    http://wiki.list.org/Mailman3

You probably want to start with the bundler and let it grab and install all
the other parts.

More information is available at:

    http://www.list.org
    http://wiki.list.org
    http://launchpad.net/mailman
    #mailman on freenode
    mailman-developers@python.org

Happy Mailman Day,
-Barry & the Mailman Cabal


-- System Information:
Debian Release: 8.0
  APT prefers stable-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable'), (1,
'experimental'), (1, 'unstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages mailman depends on:
ii  cron                   3.0pl1-127
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0]  1.5.56
ii  libc6                  2.19-18
ii  logrotate              3.8.7-1+b1
ii  lsb-base               4.1+Debian13+nmu1
ii  nginx-full [httpd]     1.6.2-5
ii  python-dnspython       1.12.0-1
pn  python:any             <none>
ii  ucf                    3.0030

Versions of packages mailman recommends:
ii  exim4-daemon-light [mail-transport-agent]  4.84-8

Versions of packages mailman suggests:
ii  listadmin     2.40-4
ii  lynx          2.8.9dev5-2
ii  spamassassin  3.4.0-6

-- debconf information:
* mailman/site_languages: en
* mailman/used_languages:
* mailman/create_site_list:
  mailman/queue_files_present: abort installation
* mailman/default_server_language: en

-- 
Regards,
Shirish Agarwal,
Community Lead,
Hamaralinux.org

Message #10 received at 783732@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Thorsten Glaser <t.glaser@tarent.de>

To: shirish <shirish@hamaralinux.org>, 783732@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Mailman for Debian <pkg-mailman-hackers@lists.alioth.debian.org>

Subject: Re: [Pkg-mailman-hackers] Bug#783732: mailman: please package mailman 3 released today

Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 16:01:10 +0200 (CEST)

On Wed, 29 Apr 2015, shirish wrote:

> Please package mailman 3 which was released today. From the announce mail :-

Please package it separately, so that the working Mailman can
still be used instead.

bye,
//mirabilos
-- 
Sometimes they [people] care too much: pretty printers [and syntax highligh-
ting, d.A.] mechanically produce pretty output that accentuates irrelevant
detail in the program, which is as sensible as putting all the prepositions
in English text in bold font.	-- Rob Pike in "Notes on Programming in C"

Message #15 received at 783732@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Thijs Kinkhorst" <thijs@debian.org>

To: "shirish" <shirish@hamaralinux.org>, 783732@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Pkg-mailman-hackers] Bug#783732: mailman: please package mailman 3 released today

Date: Mon, 11 May 2015 08:50:35 +0200

On Wed, April 29, 2015 17:29, shirish wrote:
> Package: mailman
> Version: 1:2.1.18-2
> Severity: wishlist
>
> Dear Maintainer,
> Please package mailman 3 which was released today. From the announce mail

The current Debian Mailman team has very limited resources. I heartily
invite anyone interested in packaging Mailman 3 to join the team and start
working on it.

I'd advise to use "mailman3" as a package name because the differences are
so big.


Cheers,
Thijs

Message #20 received at 783732@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org>

To: 783732@bugs.debian.org

Subject: status

Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2016 15:08:05 +0100

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What's the status of mailman3 for Debian? Has there been any work
done, and if so, where?

-- 
 .''`.   martin f. krafft <madduck@d.o> @martinkrafft
: :'  :  proud Debian developer
`. `'`   http://people.debian.org/~madduck
  `-  Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems

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Message #25 received at 783732@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Thijs Kinkhorst" <thijs@debian.org>

To: "martin f krafft" <madduck@debian.org>, 783732@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Pkg-mailman-hackers] Bug#783732: status

Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 18:00:26 +0200

On Thu, March 17, 2016 16:08, martin f krafft wrote:
> What's the status of mailman3 for Debian? Has there been any work
> done, and if so, where?

I believe that's tracked in the WNPP bug #799292 (although it doesn't have
very recent updates at the time of writing).


Cheers,
Thijs

Message #30 received at 783732-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Thijs Kinkhorst" <thijs@debian.org>

To: "martin f krafft" <madduck@debian.org>, 783732-done@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Pkg-mailman-hackers] Bug#783732: status

Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 11:34:59 +0100

On Thu, March 17, 2016 15:08, martin f krafft wrote:
> What's the status of mailman3 for Debian? Has there been any work
> done, and if so, where?

It's now available in sid and testing, see the `mailman3' metapackage.


Cheers,
Thijs

Message #31 received at 783732-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org>

To: Thijs Kinkhorst <thijs@debian.org>

Cc: 783732-done@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Pkg-mailman-hackers] Bug#783732: status

Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2018 00:04:06 +1300

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also sprach Thijs Kinkhorst <thijs@debian.org> [2018-02-03 23:34 +1300]:
> It's now available in sid and testing, see the `mailman3' metapackage.

Thank you, guys!!!

-- 
 .''`.   martin f. krafft <madduck@d.o> @martinkrafft
: :'  :  proud Debian developer
`. `'`   http://people.debian.org/~madduck
  `-  Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing systems
 
"arrogance on the part of the meritorious is even more
 offensive to us than the arrogance of those without merit:
 for merit itself is offensive."
                                              -- friedrich nietzsche

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