Debian Bug report logs - #767418
ITP: telegram-desktop - official telegram messaging app

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Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Pierre Bernhardt <pierre@starcumulus.owl.de>

Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 22:09:01 UTC

Owned by: Коля Гурьев <guriev-ns@ya.ru>

Severity: wishlist

Tags: upstream

Fixed in version telegram-desktop/1.0.14-1

Done: Nicholas Guriev <guriev-ns@ya.ru>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, unknown-package@qa.debian.org:
Bug#767418; Package telegram. (Thu, 30 Oct 2014 22:09:07 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Acknowledgement sent to Pierre Bernhardt <pierre@starcumulus.owl.de>:
New Bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to unknown-package@qa.debian.org. (Thu, 30 Oct 2014 22:09:07 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Pierre Bernhardt <pierre@starcumulus.owl.de>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: telegram desktop: Request Telegram client
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2014 22:58:07 +0100
Package: telegram
Severity: wishlist
Tags: upstream

Dear Maintainer,

Telegram Desktop is the unoffical desktop client for the telegram messaging.
Telegram is a secured and privacy platform like what's app, but better.
Have a look on telegra.org for the description of API, Protocols and so on.
There is a link to tdesktop.org which is the unofficial client version
which can be installed for linux32 and linux64 bit.

The source is available on GitHub: https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop
The software is distributed under the license GPLv3.

Last Version from GitHub is 0.6.6.



-- System Information:
Debian Release: jessie/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (600, 'testing'), (500, 'proposed-updates'), (500, 'stable'), (190, 'unstable'), (150, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 3.16-2-amd64 (SMP w/6 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, unknown-package@qa.debian.org:
Bug#767418; Package telegram. (Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:33:10 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #8 received at 767418@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
To: Pierre Bernhardt <pierre@starcumulus.owl.de>, 767418@bugs.debian.org
Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#767418: telegram desktop: Request Telegram client
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 11:29:31 +0200
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Control: reassign -1 wnpp
Control: retitle -1 RFP: telegram -- desktop client for the telegram messaging

On Jo, 30 oct 14, 22:58:07, Pierre Bernhardt wrote:
> Package: telegram
> Severity: wishlist
> Tags: upstream
> 
> Dear Maintainer,
> 
> Telegram Desktop is the unoffical desktop client for the telegram messaging.
> Telegram is a secured and privacy platform like what's app, but better.
> Have a look on telegra.org for the description of API, Protocols and so on.
> There is a link to tdesktop.org which is the unofficial client version
> which can be installed for linux32 and linux64 bit.
> 
> The source is available on GitHub: https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop
> The software is distributed under the license GPLv3.
> 
> Last Version from GitHub is 0.6.6.
> 
> 
> 
> -- System Information:
> Debian Release: jessie/sid
>   APT prefers testing
>   APT policy: (600, 'testing'), (500, 'proposed-updates'), (500, 'stable'), (190, 'unstable'), (150, 'experimental')
> Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
> Foreign Architectures: i386
> 
> Kernel: Linux 3.16-2-amd64 (SMP w/6 CPU cores)
> Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
> Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

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Bug reassigned from package 'telegram' to 'wnpp'. Request was from Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> to 767418-submit@bugs.debian.org. (Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:33:10 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Changed Bug title to 'RFP: telegram -- desktop client for the telegram messaging' from 'telegram desktop: Request Telegram client' Request was from Andrei POPESCU <andreimpopescu@gmail.com> to 767418-submit@bugs.debian.org. (Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:33:11 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#767418; Package wnpp. (Sun, 03 May 2015 20:54:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Acknowledgement sent to Christoph Egger <christoph@debian.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to wnpp@debian.org. (Sun, 03 May 2015 20:54:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #17 received at 767418@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Christoph Egger <christoph@debian.org>
To: Roberto De Oliveira <rcdeoliveira@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org, 767418@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Packaging Telegram Desktop
Date: Sun, 03 May 2015 22:51:35 +0200
Ahoi!

Roberto De Oliveira <rcdeoliveira@gmail.com> writes:
> I want to initiate on the way of Debian Mantainer, so after read few
> material I think that the first step is to adopt a package and
> Telegram Desktop[1] is RFP, maybe this package would be simple because
> it does not give any library or complex dependency...

On the other side it's probably illegal to distribute any binaries from
that. GPLv3 (no exceptions) + OpenSSL don't go together very well

  Christoph

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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#767418; Package wnpp. (Sun, 03 May 2015 20:57:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Acknowledgement sent to Christoph Egger <christoph@debian.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to wnpp@debian.org. (Sun, 03 May 2015 20:57:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #22 received at 767418@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Christoph Egger <christoph@debian.org>
To: Roberto De Oliveira <rcdeoliveira@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org, 767418@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Packaging Telegram Desktop
Date: Sun, 03 May 2015 22:54:43 +0200
Christoph Egger <christoph@debian.org> writes:
> On the other side it's probably illegal to distribute any binaries from
> that. GPLv3 (no exceptions) + OpenSSL don't go together very well

Oh and requires to patch your Qt installation? Probably not impossible
to get this thing to work properly but I guess far from easy

  Christoph

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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#767418; Package wnpp. (Mon, 04 May 2015 00:15:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Acknowledgement sent to Roberto De Oliveira <rcdeoliveira@gmail.com>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to wnpp@debian.org. (Mon, 04 May 2015 00:15:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #27 received at 767418@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Roberto De Oliveira <rcdeoliveira@gmail.com>
To: Christoph Egger <christoph@debian.org>
Cc: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org, 767418@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Packaging Telegram Desktop
Date: Sun, 3 May 2015 19:43:48 -0430
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Thanks Cristoph,


>
> On the other side it's probably illegal to distribute any binaries from
> that. GPLv3 (no exceptions) + OpenSSL don't go together very well
>
>
So we can not make native packages for Telegram... What about a script that
download binary files and install it according to FHS?


-- 
Saludos,
Roberto De Oliveira

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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#767418; Package wnpp. (Mon, 04 May 2015 02:57:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Acknowledgement sent to Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to wnpp@debian.org. (Mon, 04 May 2015 02:57:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #32 received at 767418@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>
To: Roberto De Oliveira <rcdeoliveira@gmail.com>
Cc: Christoph Egger <christoph@debian.org>, debian-mentors@lists.debian.org, 767418@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Packaging Telegram Desktop
Date: Mon, 4 May 2015 10:55:32 +0800
On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 8:13 AM, Roberto De Oliveira wrote:

> So we can not make native packages for Telegram... What about a script that
> download binary files and install it according to FHS?

I wouldn't bother with even that, you might want to read up on
Telegram. It has been referred to as "snake oil" before:

http://blog.tincho.org/posts/Telegram/
http://www.thoughtcrime.org/blog/telegram-crypto-challenge/
http://www.alexrad.me/discourse/a-264-attack-on-telegram-and-why-a-super-villain-doesnt-need-it-to-read-your-telegram-chats.html

-- 
bye,
pabs

https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#767418; Package wnpp. (Wed, 02 Mar 2016 17:54:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Acknowledgement sent to Carlo Stemberger <carlo.stemberger@gmail.com>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to wnpp@debian.org. (Wed, 02 Mar 2016 17:54:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #37 received at 767418@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Carlo Stemberger <carlo.stemberger@gmail.com>
To: 767418@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Please don't package this software
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2016 18:52:18 +0100
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Hi Paul,
I agree.

See also:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=737563#30

Please close this RFP.

Best regards,
Carlo

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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#767418; Package wnpp. (Wed, 16 Mar 2016 21:33:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Acknowledgement sent to Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@debian.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to wnpp@debian.org. (Wed, 16 Mar 2016 21:33:04 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #42 received at 767418@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@debian.org>
To: 767418@bugs.debian.org
Cc: 737563@bugs.debian.org
Subject: closing telegram WNPP bugs
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2016 17:30:44 -0400
After reviewing the litterature, I agree that Telegram has serious
security issues that go beyond usual security compromises and
tradeoffs.

It seems to imply incompetence if not downright maliciousness from the
Telegram developpers, especially concerning the way contacts are shared
with the server without the user's consent, the lack of contact
authentication (allowing the server to perform MITM attacks) and
downright censorship in Iran.

One has to question why Telegram hasn't fixed those issues by changing
their protocols to fit the best current practices (e.g. the Axolotl
rachet) in the years since those criticisms came into being.

Anyways, I am still not clear on whether the software should just be
rejected from Debian completely. If someone comes up with neatly done
Debian packages, with warnings and all, maybe it would be useful if only
for the sake of interoperability. A *lot* of people are using Telegram
to chat, and the same way we allow users to install software that talks
with Facebook, Twitter and Gmail users, maybe we could allow Debian
users to talk to Telegram users...

But of course, I won't waste my time with Telegram anymore, now that I
know. I also clarified the state of the software in Wikipedia to avoid
future me getting confused again:

https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Telegram_%28software%29&type=revision&diff=710418931&oldid=710242518

Thanks for everyone for the reviews, it was useful, as always, to have
Debian's WNPP directory as such an excellent source of information for
this sort of things.

A.
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free.
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Changed Bug title to 'ITP: telegram -- desktop client for the telegram messaging' from 'RFP: telegram -- desktop client for the telegram messaging'. Request was from Коля Гурьев <guriev-ns@ya.ru> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Wed, 18 Jan 2017 19:33:06 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Owner recorded as Коля Гурьев <guriev-ns@ya.ru>. Request was from Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Sat, 21 Jan 2017 10:51:02 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Changed Bug title to 'ITP: telegram-desktop - official telegram messaging app' from 'ITP: telegram -- desktop client for the telegram messaging'. Request was from Коля Гурьев <guriev-ns@ya.ru> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Thu, 26 Jan 2017 18:33:06 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Added blocking bug(s) of 767418: 851756 Request was from Bart Martens <bartm@quantz.debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Thu, 26 Jan 2017 22:27:07 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Reply sent to Nicholas Guriev <guriev-ns@ya.ru>:
You have taken responsibility. (Wed, 29 Mar 2017 18:03:13 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Notification sent to Pierre Bernhardt <pierre@starcumulus.owl.de>:
Bug acknowledged by developer. (Wed, 29 Mar 2017 18:03:13 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).

Message #55 received at 767418-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Nicholas Guriev <guriev-ns@ya.ru>
To: 767418-close@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Bug#767418: fixed in telegram-desktop 1.0.14-1
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 18:00:20 +0000
Source: telegram-desktop
Source-Version: 1.0.14-1

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
telegram-desktop, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 767418@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Nicholas Guriev <guriev-ns@ya.ru> (supplier of updated telegram-desktop package)

(This message was generated automatically at their request; if you
believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive
administrators by mailing ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org)


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Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2017 21:13:44 +0300
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Version: 1.0.14-1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Nicholas Guriev <guriev-ns@ya.ru>
Changed-By: Nicholas Guriev <guriev-ns@ya.ru>
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