Debian Bug report logs - #765766
RM: dirac -- ROM; obsolete, replacement exists (libschroedinger)

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: peter green <plugwash@p10link.net>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: Dirac package unloved and appears to be nearly obsolete, maybe consider removal after jessie.

Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2014 22:25:24 +0100

Package: dirac

The dirac package seems pretty unloved. It's only ever had one upstream 
version in debian and all of the recent uploads have been "team 
uploads", mostly tweaking the packaging with a handful of FTBFS fixes.

The package fails to build on armhf with gcc-4.9 with a testsuite 
segfault and has been that way for months (see bug 756777). It doesn't 
appear there is anyone with the time/inclination to properly debug this 
and work out whether it's a true bug in the compiler or some reliance on 
undefined behaviour in the dirac code.

Furthermore the package seems to have mostly been replaced by 
Schrödinger . The decoder seems to have no remaining reverse 
dependencies and the encoder seems to have only one reverse dependency 
remaining. Unfortunately that one remaining dependency is a fairly 
imporant package, namely gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad .

Upstream also seems to be trying to push people towards Schrödinger. 
Thier website says

"The Dirac project maintains two encoder implementations: 
dirac-research, a research encoder, and Schrödinger, which is meant for 
user applications. Schrödinger outperforms dirac-research in most 
encoding situations, both in terms of encoding speed and visual quality."

And there do not appear to have been any new releases of the plain dirac 
package since 2009.

As a band aid for jessie. I just uploaded a NMU to use 4.8 on armhf but 
that is not a long term soloution.

Message #10 received at 765766@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk>

To: peter green <plugwash@p10link.net>, 765766@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#765766: Dirac package unloved and appears to be nearly obsolete, maybe consider removal after jessie.

Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 02:32:32 +0200

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Quoting peter green (2014-10-17 23:25:24)
> The dirac package seems pretty unloved. It's only ever had one 
> upstream version in debian and all of the recent uploads have been 
> "team uploads", mostly tweaking the packaging with a handful of FTBFS 
> fixes.
> 
> The package fails to build on armhf with gcc-4.9 with a testsuite 
> segfault and has been that way for months (see bug 756777). It doesn't 
> appear there is anyone with the time/inclination to properly debug 
> this and work out whether it's a true bug in the compiler or some 
> reliance on undefined behaviour in the dirac code.
> 
> Furthermore the package seems to have mostly been replaced by 
> Schrödinger . The decoder seems to have no remaining reverse 
> dependencies and the encoder seems to have only one reverse dependency 
> remaining. Unfortunately that one remaining dependency is a fairly 
> imporant package, namely gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad .

Thanks to above info, I have now filed bug#765776 against 
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad.


 - Jonas

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Message #17 received at 765766@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sebastian Ramacher <sramacher@debian.org>

To: peter green <plugwash@p10link.net>, 765766@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#765766: Dirac package unloved and appears to be nearly obsolete, maybe consider removal after jessie.

Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 21:54:57 +0200

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Control: found -1 1.0.2-7.1
Control: tags + sid stretch
Control: severity -1 serious

On 2014-10-17 22:25:24, peter green wrote:
> Package: dirac
> 
> The dirac package seems pretty unloved. It's only ever had one upstream
> version in debian and all of the recent uploads have been "team uploads",
> mostly tweaking the packaging with a handful of FTBFS fixes.
> 
> The package fails to build on armhf with gcc-4.9 with a testsuite segfault
> and has been that way for months (see bug 756777). It doesn't appear there
> is anyone with the time/inclination to properly debug this and work out
> whether it's a true bug in the compiler or some reliance on undefined
> behaviour in the dirac code.
> 
> Furthermore the package seems to have mostly been replaced by Schrödinger .
> The decoder seems to have no remaining reverse dependencies and the encoder
> seems to have only one reverse dependency remaining. Unfortunately that one
> remaining dependency is a fairly imporant package, namely
> gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad .
> 
> Upstream also seems to be trying to push people towards Schrödinger. Thier
> website says
> 
> "The Dirac project maintains two encoder implementations: dirac-research, a
> research encoder, and Schrödinger, which is meant for user applications.
> Schrödinger outperforms dirac-research in most encoding situations, both in
> terms of encoding speed and visual quality."
> 
> And there do not appear to have been any new releases of the plain dirac
> package since 2009.
> 
> As a band aid for jessie. I just uploaded a NMU to use 4.8 on armhf but that
> is not a long term soloution.

I am raising this to serious, so we do not release stretch with dirac.

Cheers
-- 
Sebastian Ramacher

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Message #28 received at 765766@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sebastian Ramacher <sramacher@debian.org>

To: peter green <plugwash@p10link.net>, 765766@bugs.debian.org, ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#765766: Dirac package unloved and appears to be nearly obsolete, maybe consider removal after jessie.

Date: Mon, 13 Jul 2015 20:09:14 +0200

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Control: reassign -1 ftp.debian.org
Control: retitle -1 RM: dirac -- ROM; obsolete, replacement exists (libschroedinger)
Control: severity -1 normal
Control: tags -1 =

On 2015-05-13 21:54:57, Sebastian Ramacher wrote:
> Control: found -1 1.0.2-7.1
> Control: tags + sid stretch
> Control: severity -1 serious
> 
> On 2014-10-17 22:25:24, peter green wrote:
> > Package: dirac
> > 
> > The dirac package seems pretty unloved. It's only ever had one upstream
> > version in debian and all of the recent uploads have been "team uploads",
> > mostly tweaking the packaging with a handful of FTBFS fixes.
> > 
> > The package fails to build on armhf with gcc-4.9 with a testsuite segfault
> > and has been that way for months (see bug 756777). It doesn't appear there
> > is anyone with the time/inclination to properly debug this and work out
> > whether it's a true bug in the compiler or some reliance on undefined
> > behaviour in the dirac code.
> > 
> > Furthermore the package seems to have mostly been replaced by Schrödinger .
> > The decoder seems to have no remaining reverse dependencies and the encoder
> > seems to have only one reverse dependency remaining. Unfortunately that one
> > remaining dependency is a fairly imporant package, namely
> > gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad .
> > 
> > Upstream also seems to be trying to push people towards Schrödinger. Thier
> > website says
> > 
> > "The Dirac project maintains two encoder implementations: dirac-research, a
> > research encoder, and Schrödinger, which is meant for user applications.
> > Schrödinger outperforms dirac-research in most encoding situations, both in
> > terms of encoding speed and visual quality."
> > 
> > And there do not appear to have been any new releases of the plain dirac
> > package since 2009.
> > 
> > As a band aid for jessie. I just uploaded a NMU to use 4.8 on armhf but that
> > is not a long term soloution.

Dear FTP masters, please remove dirac from unstable. It has been obsoleted
upstream and replaced by libschroedinger. The last reverse dependency was fixed
yesterday.

Cheers
-- 
Sebastian Ramacher

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Message #43 received at 765766-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Debian FTP Masters <ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org>

To: 765766-close@bugs.debian.org

Cc: dirac@packages.debian.org, dirac@packages.qa.debian.org

Subject: Bug#765766: Removed package(s) from unstable

Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2015 01:11:15 +0000

We believe that the bug you reported is now fixed; the following
package(s) have been removed from unstable:

     dirac |  1.0.2-7.1 | source, amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, hurd-i386, i386, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x, sparc
libdirac-decoder0 |  1.0.2-7.1 | amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, hurd-i386, i386, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x, sparc
libdirac-dev |  1.0.2-7.1 | amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, hurd-i386, i386, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x, sparc
libdirac-doc |  1.0.2-7.1 | all
libdirac-encoder0 |  1.0.2-7.1 | amd64, arm64, armel, armhf, hurd-i386, i386, kfreebsd-amd64, kfreebsd-i386, mips, mipsel, powerpc, ppc64el, s390x, sparc

------------------- Reason -------------------
ROM; obsolete, replacement exists (libschroedinger)
----------------------------------------------

Note that the package(s) have simply been removed from the tag
database and may (or may not) still be in the pool; this is not a bug.
The package(s) will be physically removed automatically when no suite
references them (and in the case of source, when no binary references
it).  Please also remember that the changes have been done on the
master archive and will not propagate to any mirrors until the next
dinstall run at the earliest.

Packages are usually not removed from testing by hand. Testing tracks
unstable and will automatically remove packages which were removed
from unstable when removing them from testing causes no dependency
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We try to close bugs which have been reported against this package
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