Debian Bug report logs - #759189
please use syslinux-utils instead of isolinux

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: isolinux: isohybrid dropped, breaking debian-installer builds

Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 06:27:38 +0200

Package: isolinux
Version: 3:6.03~pre19+dfsg-3
Severity: serious
Justification: breaks rdepends

Hi,

once again syslinux is breaking its reverse dependencies. We're now
getting this in d-i daily builds:
| geniso_hybrid_plus_firmware_partition ./tmp/netboot/mini.iso
| util/geniso_hybrid_plus_firmware_partition: 26: util/geniso_hybrid_plus_firmware_partition: isohybrid: not found
| config/x86.cfg:248: recipe for target 'arch_miniiso' failed

Message #10 received at 759189@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>

To: 759189@bugs.debian.org

Cc: debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#759189: isolinux: isohybrid dropped, breaking debian-installer builds

Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 06:32:48 +0200

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Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> (2014-08-25):
> Package: isolinux
> Version: 3:6.03~pre19+dfsg-3
> Severity: serious
> Justification: breaks rdepends
> 
> Hi,
> 
> once again syslinux is breaking its reverse dependencies. We're now
> getting this in d-i daily builds:
> | geniso_hybrid_plus_firmware_partition ./tmp/netboot/mini.iso
> | util/geniso_hybrid_plus_firmware_partition: 26: util/geniso_hybrid_plus_firmware_partition: isohybrid: not found
> | config/x86.cfg:248: recipe for target 'arch_miniiso' failed

Or that was syslinux-common. I lost track of files/packages getting
renamed/moved around.

Please keep debian-boot@ in copy of your replies.

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Message #15 received at 759189@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net>

To: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>

Cc: 759189@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#759189: isolinux: isohybrid dropped, breaking debian-installer builds

Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 06:34:28 +0200

reassign 759189 debian-installer
forcemerge 759189 751731
thanks

On 08/25/2014 06:27 AM, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> once again syslinux is breaking its reverse dependencies. We're now
> getting this in d-i daily builds:

please update your package as i've communicated in #751731, thanks.

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Message #26 received at 759189@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>

To: Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net>

Cc: 759189@bugs.debian.org, debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#759189: isolinux: isohybrid dropped, breaking debian-installer builds

Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 06:38:33 +0200

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Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net> (2014-08-25):
> reassign 759189 debian-installer
> forcemerge 759189 751731
> thanks
> 
> On 08/25/2014 06:27 AM, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > once again syslinux is breaking its reverse dependencies. We're now
> > getting this in d-i daily builds:
> 
> please update your package as i've communicated in #751731, thanks.

Please stop breaking packages gratuitously, thanks.

Mraw,
KiBi.

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Message #35 received at 759189@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net>

To: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>

Cc: 759189@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#759189: isolinux: isohybrid dropped, breaking debian-installer builds

Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 07:09:06 +0200

why did you reassign #759189 back to syslinux? do you require a patch
for #751731? are there any problems adding syslinux-utils to
debian-installer build-depends?

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Address:        Daniel Baumann, Donnerbuehlweg 3, CH-3012 Bern
Email:          daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net
Internet:       http://people.progress-technologies.net/~daniel.baumann/

Message #40 received at 759189@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>

To: Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net>

Cc: 759189@bugs.debian.org, debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#759189: isolinux: isohybrid dropped, breaking debian-installer builds

Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 07:35:10 +0200

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[ Again, please keep debian-boot@ in the loop. ]

Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net> (2014-08-25):
> why did you reassign #759189 back to syslinux? do you require a patch
> for #751731? are there any problems adding syslinux-utils to
> debian-installer build-depends?

Because your package is actively dropping features your reverse
dependencies are using. So please avoid doing so until packages
have been adapted, uploaded, and possibly migrated to testing.

Patches are always appreciated.

About using syslinux-utils in build-depends, I don't know yet.
It'd be nice if someone could take some time to investigate that.
Until that has happened, we're back to: please don't actively
break your reverse dependencies. That's why #759189 belongs to
src:syslinux, and why I reassigned it back.

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Message #45 received at 759189@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net>

To: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>

Cc: 759189@bugs.debian.org, debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#759189: isolinux: isohybrid dropped, breaking debian-installer builds

Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2014 07:51:47 +0200

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On 08/25/2014 07:35 AM, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> [ Again, please keep debian-boot@ in the loop. ]

[ clicking on reply-all in icedove only adds CCs for addresses that were
CCed in the original message. ]

> Because your package is actively dropping features your reverse
> dependencies are using.

there were two (suspected) reverse dependencies: debian-cd and
debian-installer. i filled bugs against both beginning of june. turns
out, debian-cd is not using isohybrid. debian-installer is the only
package using it.

> So please avoid doing so until packages
> have been adapted, uploaded, and possibly migrated to testing.

10 weeks should be enough, even for debian-installer, to add a simple
additional build-depends.

> Patches are always appreciated.

patch attached.

> About using syslinux-utils in build-depends, I don't know yet.
> It'd be nice if someone could take some time to investigate that.

no need to overcomplicate things: debian-installer calls the 'isohybrid'
command which is in bin:syslinux-utils instead of bin:isolinux. adding
syslinux-utils to build-depends as you do for any other packages you are
using during the build is enough.

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Address:        Daniel Baumann, Donnerbuehlweg 3, CH-3012 Bern
Email:          daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net
Internet:       http://people.progress-technologies.net/~daniel.baumann/

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Message #50 received at 759189@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net>

To: 759189@bugs.debian.org

Cc: debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: isolinux: isohybrid dropped, breaking debian-installer builds

Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 20:54:22 +0200

close 759189
thanks

I see you've fixed the bug in your package:

http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/d-i/debian-installer.git/commit/?id=a212be5de579ed41643e4eaf1a03775839608ff5

so this bug can be closed here, #751731 is enough to track it on your end.

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Address:        Daniel Baumann, Donnerbuehlweg 3, CH-3012 Bern
Email:          daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net
Internet:       http://people.progress-technologies.net/~daniel.baumann/

Message #59 received at 759189@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>

To: daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net, 759189@bugs.debian.org

Cc: debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#759189: isolinux: isohybrid dropped, breaking debian-installer builds

Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 21:07:57 +0200

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reopen 759189

Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net> (2014-08-26):
> close 759189
> thanks
> 
> I see you've fixed the bug in your package:
> 
> http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/d-i/debian-installer.git/commit/?id=a212be5de579ed41643e4eaf1a03775839608ff5
> 
> so this bug can be closed here, #751731 is enough to track it on your end.

Not until it's uploaded, and I'm not going to upload debian-installer
just for that.

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Message #66 received at 759189@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net>

To: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>

Cc: 759189@bugs.debian.org, debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#759189: isolinux: isohybrid dropped, breaking debian-installer builds

Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 22:24:35 +0200

On 08/26/2014 09:07 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Not until it's uploaded, and I'm not going to upload debian-installer
> just for that.

since this is not a bug in isolinux, can you explain why should it be
kept open?

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Address:        Daniel Baumann, Donnerbuehlweg 3, CH-3012 Bern
Email:          daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net
Internet:       http://people.progress-technologies.net/~daniel.baumann/

Message #71 received at 759189@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>

To: Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net>

Cc: 759189@bugs.debian.org, debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#759189: isolinux: isohybrid dropped, breaking debian-installer builds

Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 22:29:17 +0200

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Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net> (2014-08-26):
> On 08/26/2014 09:07 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> > Not until it's uploaded, and I'm not going to upload
> > debian-installer just for that.
> 
> since this is not a bug in isolinux, can you explain why should it
> be kept open?

Sure: breaking reverse dependencies is a bug; a quite nasty one when
that happens in an uncoordinated and deliberately disruptive manner.

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Message #76 received at 759189@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net>

To: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>

Cc: 759189@bugs.debian.org, debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#759189: isolinux: isohybrid dropped, breaking debian-installer builds

Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2014 22:35:45 +0200

On 08/26/2014 10:29 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> Sure: breaking reverse dependencies is a bug; a quite nasty one when
> that happens in an uncoordinated and deliberately disruptive manner.

i do disgree with that interpretation which can be seen in the previous
mail, but insisting on that would not get us anywhere.

now, can you give me a *technical* reason why the bugreport needs to be
kept open? is there a need to keep syslinux out of testing or why does
it need to be kept open?

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Address:        Daniel Baumann, Donnerbuehlweg 3, CH-3012 Bern
Email:          daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net
Internet:       http://people.progress-technologies.net/~daniel.baumann/

Message #81 received at 759189@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net>

To: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>

Cc: 759189@bugs.debian.org, debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#759189: isolinux: isohybrid dropped, breaking debian-installer builds

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 06:41:26 +0200

On 08/26/2014 10:35 PM, Daniel Baumann wrote:
> now, can you give me a *technical* reason why the bugreport needs to be
> kept open? is there a need to keep syslinux out of testing or why does
> it need to be kept open?

if you can't give a technical reason why the newer version of syslinux
should be kept out of testing i will close the bug again.

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Address:        Daniel Baumann, Donnerbuehlweg 3, CH-3012 Bern
Email:          daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net
Internet:       http://people.progress-technologies.net/~daniel.baumann/

Message #86 received at 759189@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>

To: Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net>

Cc: 759189@bugs.debian.org, debian-boot@lists.debian.org, debian-release@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#759189: isolinux: isohybrid dropped, breaking debian-installer builds

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 19:45:38 +0200

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Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net> (2014-08-28):
> On 08/26/2014 10:35 PM, Daniel Baumann wrote:
> > now, can you give me a *technical* reason why the bugreport needs to be
> > kept open? is there a need to keep syslinux out of testing or why does
> > it need to be kept open?
> 
> if you can't give a technical reason why the newer version of syslinux
> should be kept out of testing i will close the bug again.

I already did, multiple times. Your disagreeing with how we've been
dealing with disruptive changes in Debian for years isn't an excuse to
break stuff in testing in addition to unstable.

Not sure why keeping the transitional depends until rdeps are updated
was, or is, an issue.

If you close the bug again your package will likely get blocked anyway.

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Message #91 received at 759189@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net>

To: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>

Cc: 759189@bugs.debian.org, debian-boot@lists.debian.org, debian-release@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#759189: isolinux: isohybrid dropped, breaking debian-installer builds

Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2014 19:55:15 +0200

On 08/28/2014 07:45 PM, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
> I already did, multiple times. Your disagreeing with how we've been
> dealing with disruptive changes in Debian for years isn't an excuse to
> break stuff in testing in addition to unstable.

again: debian-installer is the only rdepends there ever was. it had 10
weeks to update, there was more than one ping about it.

> Not sure why keeping the transitional depends until rdeps are updated
> was, or is, an issue.

please explain which problem gets solved by keeping this bug open.

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Email:          daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net
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Message #96 received at 759189@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Daniel Baumann <daniel.baumann@progress-technologies.net>

To: 759189@bugs.debian.org

Cc: debian-boot@lists.debian.org, debian-release@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: isolinux: isohybrid dropped, breaking debian-installer builds

Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:23:04 +0200

retitle 759189 please use syslinux-utils instead of isolinux
reassign 759189 debian-installer
forcemerge 759189 751731
thanks

given that:

  * the original bug is in debian-installer which needed to be updated
    for newer syslinux (and which has happened in git and which progress
    of an uploaded can be tracked through it's original bug report at
    #751731)

  * there's nothing that can be done in the syslinux package regarding
    this bug report anyway (i.e. the bug 'goes' away without doing
    anything at all in the syslinux package)

  * syslinux >= 3:6.03~pre19+dfsg-1 has migrated to testing regardless

  * there was repeatedly not given any purpose to what #759189 filed
    against syslinux would be good for

i'm reassigning and merging this bug with #751731 again. feel free to
close it if you like to keep only #751731 open though.

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Message #105 received at 751731-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>

To: 751731-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#751731: fixed in debian-installer 20141002

Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2014 06:48:36 +0000

Source: debian-installer
Source-Version: 20141002

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
debian-installer, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 751731@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> (supplier of updated debian-installer package)

(This message was generated automatically at their request; if you
believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive
administrators by mailing ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org)


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Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian Install System Team <debian-boot@lists.debian.org>
Changed-By: Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org>
Description:
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Closes: 751731 754093 756275 758581 759686 761573 762614
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 .
   [ Samuel Thibault ]
   * Add speech synthesis entries in alternate desktop boot menus.
   * Add keyboard shortcut for Advanced options menu.
 .
   [ Ian Campbell ]
   * Depend on mklibs >= 0.1.40 for ARM EABI fixes relating to the handling
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   * Switch to installing Jessie by default on ARM64.
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   * Deal with even more incompatible changes on the syslinux side by
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     temporary, and that was almost 2 years ago.
   * Replace ttf-kannada-fonts-udeb with fonts-knda-udeb.
   * Specify -j1 for the submake definition in build/Makefile; that's what
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   * Add fonts-lohit-guru-udeb to gtk images, fixing rendering for Punjabi
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     thanks to a defined path (Closes: #756275). Many thanks!
   * Update translation-status for the release.
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   [ Frederic Bonnard / Aurelien Jarno ]
   * Add ppc64el support installing sid (Closes: #754093).
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   [ Steven Chamberlain ]
   * On kfreebsd and hurd, which use GRUB for PXE booting, request two
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     - tftp: required since GRUB 2.02 otherwise PXE boot will crash/hang
     - gfxterm_background: required since GRUB 2.02 for the boot splash
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