Debian Bug report logs - #727823
ibus-skk: Unwanted keyboard layout change

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Shyouzou Sugitani <shy@users.sourceforge.jp>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: ibus-skk: Unwanted keyboard layout change

Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2013 22:22:11 +0900

Package: ibus-skk
Version: 1.4.1-3+b1
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

I'm using a PC with English(pc104 us layout) keyboard.
When I turn on ibus-skk, the layout is also switched to Japanese(jp layout).

-- System Information:
Debian Release: jessie/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'oldstable')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 3.11-1-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=ja_JP.utf8, LC_CTYPE=ja_JP.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages ibus-skk depends on:
ii  ibus                 1.5.4-1
ii  libatk1.0-0          2.10.0-2
ii  libc6                2.17-93
ii  libcairo-gobject2    1.12.16-2
ii  libcairo2            1.12.16-2
ii  libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0   2.28.2-1
ii  libgee2              0.6.8-1
ii  libglib2.0-0         2.36.4-1
ii  libgtk-3-0           3.8.6-1
ii  libibus-1.0-5        1.5.4-1
ii  libpango-1.0-0       1.36.0-1
ii  libpangocairo-1.0-0  1.36.0-1
ii  libskk0              1.0.0-1
ii  skkdic               20130505-2

ibus-skk recommends no packages.

ibus-skk suggests no packages.

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Message #10 received at 727823@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Hajime MIZUNO <mizuno-as@ubuntu.com>

To: 727823@bugs.debian.org

Subject: ibus-skk: Unwanted keyboard layout change

Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2014 21:30:19 +0900

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

This problem is due to "jp" layout's been forced by
/usr/share/ibus/component/skk.xml.
By changing to the "default" from "jp",
you can use the keyboard layout of the system default.

$ diff -u /usr/share/ibus/component/skk.xml{.orig,}
--- /usr/share/ibus/component/skk.xml.orig 2014-01-02 21:24:46.918087412 +0900
+++ /usr/share/ibus/component/skk.xml 2013-12-30 20:53:39.000000000 +0900
@@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
  <license>GPL</license>
  <author>Daiki Ueno &lt;ueno@unixuser.org&gt;</author>
  <icon>/usr/share/ibus-skk/icons/ibus-skk.svg</icon>
- <layout>jp</layout>
+ <layout>default</layout>
  <longname>SKK</longname>
  <description>SKK Input Method</description>
  <rank>70</rank>

I attached the patch for ibus-skk package.

Thanks.

-- 
Regards,

Hajime MIZUNO <mizuno-as@ubuntu.com>
Key fingerprint = 9B07 B934 B70C 8482 8892  E276 502E 0713 4EEF 9E8D

[use-system-default-keyboard-layout.patch (text/x-patch, attachment)]

Message #17 received at 727823@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org>

To: 727823@bugs.debian.org, 727823-submitter@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Hajime MIZUNO <mizuno-as@ubuntu.com>

Subject: <layout> for Japanese IM

Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2014 23:00:32 +0900

Control: tags 727823 - patch
Control: severity 727823 wishlist
Control: tags 727823 + wontfix

Hi,

Please note that the value set to <layout>default</layout> and
<layout>jp</layout> by the ibus-foo system default can be overriden by
the user via GUI menu.

I used to think <layout>default</layout> is the best ... but I changed
my mind and go with upstream choice basically now.  Here is the
background and the situation.

ibus-anthy:
 upstream default is <layout>jp</layout>
 ./configure is used to set package to <layout>default</layout>
 (It was this way, ...so I am not changing this unless someone
 complain.)

ibus-skk:
 upstream default is <layout>jp</layout>

ibus-kkc:
 upstream default is <layout>jp</layout>

ibus-hangul:
 upstream default is <layout>us</layout>
 (User selectable alternative: <layout>default</layout>)

Why use: "jp"
 Even if user select XKB setting of Russian as the previous input mode,
 keyboard input works OK in ibus-*.  Usually, "us" users are technical 
 and should be able to find user configuration setting :-)

Why use: "default"
 US keyboard user are OK.  But unless "jp" keyboard user setup XKB mode to
 "jp" previously, GNOME may set XKB to "us".  If Russian XKB keyboard is
 used, unusable in ibus-*.  Quite annoying.
 There are more "jp" keyboard users for ibus-<japanese-input-method> and 
 we should care them more.

Conclusion:
 Go with what has been and do not change upstream setting from now on.

Regards,

Osamu

PS: I came to this conclusion after discussing with skk/kkc upstream
    (ueno-san @ gnu)
FYI: Fedora as the distribution seems to like <layout>default</layout>.

Message #31 received at 727823-quiet@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Shouzou Sugitani <shy@m3.catvmics.ne.jp>

To: Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org>, 727823-quiet@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#727823: <layout> for Japanese IM

Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2015 21:47:26 +0900

Hi,

> Please note that the value set to <layout>default</layout> and
> <layout>jp</layout> by the ibus-foo system default can be overriden by
> the user via GUI menu.

I can't find such kind of GUI menu on my Gnome3 desktop.
Where is the one?

Message #36 received at 727823-quiet@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org>

To: Shouzou Sugitani <shy@m3.catvmics.ne.jp>

Cc: 727823-quiet@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#727823: <layout> for Japanese IM

Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2015 02:21:28 +0900

On Sun, Apr 05, 2015 at 09:47:26PM +0900, Shouzou Sugitani wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > Please note that the value set to <layout>default</layout> and
> > <layout>jp</layout> by the ibus-foo system default can be overriden by
> > the user via GUI menu.
> 
> I can't find such kind of GUI menu on my Gnome3 desktop.
> Where is the one?

Hi, this is the user suppor desk :-)

Right top corner -> power off panel -> left most round icon with driver
and spanner -> Keyboard -> Typing panel bottom: input source -> input
source -> add your IM engine -> click bar of your IM engine -> click
gear icon left of the keyboard at the bottom. -> 

From here, IM dependent
 kkc: Use custom keymap
 anthy: Typing Method panel -> Keyboard layout
 mozc: missing normal config panel

For mozc, select mozc then click IM icon and select tools  -> select
property -> hmmmmm... it is missing.  Hmmmmm, I do not maintain mozc.

Anyway, this is IM specific issue.

I do not have ibus-skk now.

Osamu

Message #41 received at 727823-quiet@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Shouzou Sugitani <shy@m3.catvmics.ne.jp>

To: Osamu Aoki <osamu@debian.org>

Cc: 727823-quiet@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#727823: <layout> for Japanese IM

Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2015 20:06:40 +0900

Hi, this bug report belongs to ibus-skk.

OK. I already went back to uim :-)

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