Debian Bug report logs - #724629
RFP: fonts-fira -- sans-serif font family released with FirefoxOS

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Timothy Allen <thristian@gmail.com>

Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 23:09:02 UTC

Severity: wishlist

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From: Timothy Allen <thristian@gmail.com>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: RFP: fonts-fira -- sans-serif font family released with FirefoxOS
Date: Thu, 26 Sep 2013 08:59:25 +1000
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

* Package name    : fonts-fira
  Version         : 1.0
  Upstream Author : Mozilla
* URL             : https://github.com/mozilla/Fira
* License         : SIL Open Font Licence
  Programming Lang: N/A
  Description     : sans-serif font family released with FirefoxOS



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From: Tim <aim.tim@ya.ru>
To: 724629@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: RFP: fonts-fira -- sans-serif font family released with FirefoxOS
Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2014 04:41:59 +0200
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Any progress?

*Download*
The Fira font family comes in a Sans Serif with 4 weights (light, 
regular, medium and bold) all accompanied by italic styles. The package 
also includes a Mono Spaced variant with 2 weights (regular and bold).
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/styleguide/products/firefox-os/typeface/
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From: Rüdiger Sonderfeld <ruediger@c-plusplus.de>
To: 724629@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: RFP: fonts-fira -- sans-serif font family released with FirefoxOS
Date: Mon, 28 Apr 2014 12:40:12 +0200
Hello,
I've created a package for fonts-fira.  I tried to contact the pkg-fonts-devel 
mailinglist.  But it seems my message was spam filtered.

The package is here https://github.com/ruediger/fonts-fira at the moment and 
can be build via "debuild -us -uc -A".  I wish to move it upstream into the 
Debian Fonts project if there is interest.  I however don't know what other 
steps are required to do that.

Regards,
Rüdiger




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From: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>
To: pkg-fonts-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org, 724629@bugs.debian.org, Rüdiger Sonderfeld <ruediger@c-plusplus.de>
Subject: Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Package for Fira Sans and Fira Mono
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 11:34:59 +0800
On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 2:25 AM, Rüdiger Sonderfeld wrote:

> I've created a package for the Fira Sans and Fira Mono fonts.  They are the
> new font for Mozilla Firefox OS and were created by Erik Spiekermann et.al.
> The license is SIL OFL Version 1.1.

I discovered that:

Mozilla are not distributing the source for these fonts. The source is
available though, see these sites:

http://www.donotlick.com/2014/05/23/try-out-fira-sans-a-free-open-source-typeface-commissioned-by-mozilla/
http://dev.carrois.com/fira-3-1/

The source can only be converted to a TrueType font using a
proprietary program that only runs on Macs. This means that Fira is
not suitable for Debian main and must be uploaded to Debian contrib
instead.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7793735
http://www.glyphsapp.com/

-- 
bye,
pabs

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From: Rüdiger Sonderfeld <ruediger@c-plusplus.de>
To: pkg-fonts-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org
Cc: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>, 724629@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Package for Fira Sans and Fira Mono
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 12:03:07 +0200
On Saturday 31 May 2014 11:34:59 Paul Wise wrote:
> Mozilla are not distributing the source for these fonts. The source is
> available though, see these sites:
> 
> http://www.donotlick.com/2014/05/23/try-out-fira-sans-a-free-open-source-typ
> eface-commissioned-by-mozilla/ http://dev.carrois.com/fira-3-1/
> 
> The source can only be converted to a TrueType font using a
> proprietary program that only runs on Macs. This means that Fira is
> not suitable for Debian main and must be uploaded to Debian contrib
> instead.
> 
> https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7793735
> http://www.glyphsapp.com/

Does this even matter for Fonts?  You can still simply open the font file in 
Fontforge (a free software font editor) and change it like any other font.  
It's not like a program binary where editing the binary is much more 
complicated than editing the source.

I mean if they hadn't published the "source" (their editor files) at all then 
would it still have ended in contrib?

Regards,
Rüdiger




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From: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>
To: Rüdiger Sonderfeld <ruediger@c-plusplus.de>
Cc: pkg-fonts-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org, 724629@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Package for Fira Sans and Fira Mono
Date: Sat, 31 May 2014 18:13:23 +0800
On Sat, May 31, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Rüdiger Sonderfeld wrote:

> Does this even matter for Fonts?

Yes:

https://lists.debian.org/1948618.u6YZvnFvaf@scott-latitude-e6320

> You can still simply open the font file in
> Fontforge (a free software font editor) and change it like any other font.
> It's not like a program binary where editing the binary is much more
> complicated than editing the source.

Editing executable code isn't that hard any more either with tools
like IDA but we still require source code for them.

http://bcmon.blogspot.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interactive_Disassembler

> I mean if they hadn't published the "source" (their editor files) at all then
> would it still have ended in contrib?

It depends on how responsible the people packaging it are and how many
questions the ftp-masters raised when looking at the initial package.

-- 
bye,
pabs

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From: Rüdiger Sonderfeld <ruediger@c-plusplus.de>
To: pkg-fonts-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org
Cc: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>, 724629@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Package for Fira Sans and Fira Mono
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2014 15:00:33 +0200
On Saturday 31 May 2014 11:34:59 Paul Wise wrote:
> The source can only be converted to a TrueType font using a
> proprietary program that only runs on Macs.

The issue is discussed here: 
https://github.com/mozilla/Fira/issues/25#issuecomment-44137353

It seems that at the moment Mozilla won't accept modifications.  But if they 
do maybe we can convince them to standardise on UFO instead of a proprietary 
editor format.  UFO should be supported by FontForge.

Regards,
Rüdiger




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From: Rüdiger Sonderfeld <ruediger@c-plusplus.de>
To: pkg-fonts-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org
Cc: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>, 724629@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Package for Fira Sans and Fira Mono
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 00:26 +0200
On Saturday 31 May 2014 11:34:59 Paul Wise wrote:
> The source can only be converted to a TrueType font using a
> proprietary program that only runs on Macs. This means that Fira is
> not suitable for Debian main and must be uploaded to Debian contrib
> instead.

They have now added the UFO files to the github repo.  I haven't updated the 
package yet.  But it should now be good enough for Debian main, right?

* https://github.com/mozilla/Fira/issues/25#issuecomment-46699424
* https://github.com/mozilla/Fira/tree/master/source/UFO%20%28Beta%29

Regards,
Rüdiger




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From: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>
To: Rüdiger Sonderfeld <ruediger@c-plusplus.de>
Cc: pkg-fonts-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org, 724629@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Package for Fira Sans and Fira Mono
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 09:45:38 +0800
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On Mon, 2014-06-23 at 00:26 +0200, Rüdiger Sonderfeld wrote:

> They have now added the UFO files to the github repo.  I haven't updated the 
> package yet.  But it should now be good enough for Debian main, right?
> 
> * https://github.com/mozilla/Fira/issues/25#issuecomment-46699424
> * https://github.com/mozilla/Fira/tree/master/source/UFO%20%28Beta%29

It sounds like the author is still using the Glyphs app but saving and
loading UFO instead of the Glyphs format. That seems acceptable.

http://dev.carrois.com/fira-3-1/

However, we are missing a way to build the fonts from the UFO sources.

-- 
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pabs

http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
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From: Joachim Breitner <nomeata@debian.org>
To: 724629@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Package for Fira Sans and Fira Mono
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2016 15:57:17 -0400
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Hi,

On Mon, 23 Jun 2014 09:45:38 +0800 Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 2014-06-23 at 00:26 +0200, Rüdiger Sonderfeld wrote:
> 
> > They have now added the UFO files to the github repo.  I haven't updated the 
> > package yet.  But it should now be good enough for Debian main, right?
> > 
> > * https://github.com/mozilla/Fira/issues/25#issuecomment-46699424
> > * https://github.com/mozilla/Fira/tree/master/source/UFO%20%28Beta%29
> 
> It sounds like the author is still using the Glyphs app but saving and
> loading UFO instead of the Glyphs format. That seems acceptable.
> 
> http://dev.carrois.com/fira-3-1/
> 
> However, we are missing a way to build the fonts from the UFO sources.

it’s been two years… Is still someone trying to get this into Debian?

(I’ll use https://github.com/eddelbuettel/pkg-fonts-fira for now.)

Thanks,
Joachim


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From: Stefan Tatschner <rumpelsepp@sevenbyte.org>
To: 724629@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Package for Fira Sans and Fira Mono
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 21:57:47 +0100
On Tue, 02 Aug 2016 15:57:17 -0400 Joachim Breitner <nomeata@debian.org>
wrote:
> it’s been two years… Is still someone trying to get this into Debian?
> 
> (I’ll use https://github.com/eddelbuettel/pkg-fonts-fira for now.)


I also want to use fira in debian, but nobody seems to be interested in
packaging it. :/

Stefan



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From: Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac@debian.org>
To: 724629@bugs.debian.org, Joachim Breitner <nomeata@debian.org>, Stefan Tatschner <rumpelsepp@sevenbyte.org>
Cc: Fabian Greffrath <fabian@greffrath.com>, Rodolphe PELLOUX-PRAYER <rodolphe@damsy.net>
Subject: Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Package for Fira Sans and Fira Mono
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2017 17:09:31 +0100
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On Sun, 29 Jan 2017 21:57:47 +0100 Stefan Tatschner <rumpelsepp@sevenbyte.org>
wrote:
> On Tue, 02 Aug 2016 15:57:17 -0400 Joachim Breitner <nomeata@debian.org>
> wrote:
> > it’s been two years… Is still someone trying to get this into Debian?
> > 
> > (I’ll use https://github.com/eddelbuettel/pkg-fonts-fira for now.)
> 
> 
> I also want to use fira in debian, but nobody seems to be interested in
> packaging it. :/

Maybe Fabian or Rodolphe, who package the Fira Code font, would be interested?

Regards,
-- 
Yves-Alexis
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Bug#724629; Package wnpp. (Thu, 02 Nov 2017 18:30:05 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Fabian Greffrath <fabian@debian.org>:
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From: Fabian Greffrath <fabian@debian.org>
To: Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac@debian.org>, 724629@bugs.debian.org, Joachim Breitner <nomeata@debian.org>, Stefan Tatschner <rumpelsepp@sevenbyte.org>
Cc: Rodolphe PELLOUX-PRAYER <rodolphe@damsy.net>
Subject: Re: [Pkg-fonts-devel] Package for Fira Sans and Fira Mono
Date: Thu, 02 Nov 2017 19:27:04 +0100
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Am Donnerstag, den 02.11.2017, 17:09 +0100 schrieb Yves-Alexis Perez:
> Maybe Fabian or Rodolphe, who package the Fira Code font, would be
> interested?

I'd certainly be happy to sponsor an upload, but I am not going to
package it on my own.

Cheers,

 - Fabian
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Bug#724629; Package wnpp. (Tue, 23 Mar 2021 09:42:07 GMT) (full text, mbox, link).


Acknowledgement sent to Gürkan Myczko <gurkan@phys.ethz.ch>:
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Message #80 received at 724629@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Gürkan Myczko <gurkan@phys.ethz.ch>
To: 803690@bugs.debian.org, 724629@bugs.debian.org, 944202@bugs.debian.org
Subject: font packaging
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 10:38:32 +0100
Once fnt is accepted from NEW QUEUE *

you could also just run
fnt install pompiere
fnt install recursive
fnt install firamono
fnt install firasans
fnt install firasanscondensed
fnt install firasansextracondensed

* https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=984461
  https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html



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