Debian Bug report logs - #712615
transition: perl 5.18

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: transition: perl 5.18

Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2013 23:01:00 +0100

Package: release.debian.org
Severity: normal
User: release.debian.org@packages.debian.org
Usertags: transition

Dear release team,

As discussed briefly in the thread starting at
<http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2013/05/msg00595.html>,
now seems like a good time to get the perl 5.18 transition on the
roadmap. The rebuild testing, across all packages which need to be
rebuilt as part of the transition as well as all other lib*-perl
packages, is now complete and the status is at

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=perl-5.18-transition;users=debian-perl@lists.debian.org

As of today, blockers appear to be in the following packages:

- perlipq
- qpid-cpp
- libdbd-anydata-perl
- libgd-gd2-noxpm-perl
- libgd-gd2-perl
- nfqueue-bindings
- libtemplate-perl
- libdata-alias-perl
- libscalar-number-perl
- libembperl-perl
- subversion
- graphviz

with around 40-50 other packages which will start FTBFS with perl 5.18
but which don't need to be rebuilt.

I don't yet have a fixed idea of when we'd prefer the transition
to happen, but progress on fixing blockers is steady thanks mainly to
the pkg-perl team. Maybe 1-2 months from now?

Ben file:

title = "perl";
is_affected = .depends ~ /perlapi-5.14|libperl5.14/ | .depends ~ /perlapi-5.18|libperl5.18/;
is_good = .depends ~ /perlapi-5.18|libperl5.18/;
is_bad = .depends ~ /perlapi-5.14|libperl5.14/;


-- System Information:
Debian Release: 7.1
  APT prefers stable-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-4-686-pae (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Message #24 received at 712615@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

To: Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>, 712615@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#712615: transition: perl 5.18

Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2013 15:39:15 +0200

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On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 23:01:00 +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:

> Package: release.debian.org
> Severity: normal
> User: release.debian.org@packages.debian.org
> Usertags: transition
> 
> Dear release team,
> 
> As discussed briefly in the thread starting at
> <http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2013/05/msg00595.html>,
> now seems like a good time to get the perl 5.18 transition on the
> roadmap.

As discussed today, things are looking pretty good, with subversion and
libtemplate-perl being possible problems.  I'm not sure how to handle
subversion; having to upload perl and subversion to tpu because the sid
version isn't suitable isn't ideal, other ideas welcome...

Cheers,
Julien

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Message #31 received at 712615@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>

To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

Cc: 712615@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#712615: transition: perl 5.18

Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 22:04:30 +0200

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 03:39:15PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 23:01:00 +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
> 
> > Package: release.debian.org
> > Severity: normal
> > User: release.debian.org@packages.debian.org
> > Usertags: transition
> > 
> > Dear release team,
> > 
> > As discussed briefly in the thread starting at
> > <http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2013/05/msg00595.html>,
> > now seems like a good time to get the perl 5.18 transition on the
> > roadmap.
> 
> As discussed today, things are looking pretty good, with subversion and
> libtemplate-perl being possible problems.  I'm not sure how to handle
> subversion; having to upload perl and subversion to tpu because the sid
> version isn't suitable isn't ideal, other ideas welcome...

Other ideas which were discussed here at Debconf include temporarily
removing libsvn-perl, and uploading the version currently in testing
to unstable again (unlikely to be acceptable I guess).

The former option would render the following small but probably
important set of packages uninstallable:

  svn-buildpackage
  libsvn-web-perl
  kgb-client
 |git-svn
  subversion-tools

Message #40 received at 712615@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

To: Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>, 712615@bugs.debian.org

Cc: ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#712615: transition: perl 5.18

Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2013 21:11:22 +0200

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ftpmaster: we're discussing how to handle the perl 5.18 transition and
the fact that subversion 1.7.x (in sid) is ftbfs and rc-buggy and thus
might block a transition.

On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 22:04:30 +0200, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 03:39:15PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 23:01:00 +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
> > 
> > > As discussed briefly in the thread starting at
> > > <http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2013/05/msg00595.html>,
> > > now seems like a good time to get the perl 5.18 transition on the
> > > roadmap.
> > 
> > As discussed today, things are looking pretty good, with subversion and
> > libtemplate-perl being possible problems.  I'm not sure how to handle
> > subversion; having to upload perl and subversion to tpu because the sid
> > version isn't suitable isn't ideal, other ideas welcome...
> 
> Other ideas which were discussed here at Debconf include temporarily
> removing libsvn-perl, and uploading the version currently in testing
> to unstable again (unlikely to be acceptable I guess).
> 
And yet another idea: ask ftp-master to copy the perl 5.18 packages from
sid to tpu when they're ready, and binNMU subversion in tpu.  Seems
easier than my first suggestion, if ftp-master is willing to do that.

Cheers,
Julien

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Message #45 received at 712615@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>

To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

Cc: Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>, 712615@bugs.debian.org, ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#712615: transition: perl 5.18

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:04:47 +0200

On 08/20/2013 21:11, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 22:04:30 +0200, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
>> Other ideas which were discussed here at Debconf include temporarily
>> removing libsvn-perl, and uploading the version currently in testing
>> to unstable again (unlikely to be acceptable I guess).
>>
> And yet another idea: ask ftp-master to copy the perl 5.18 packages from
> sid to tpu when they're ready, and binNMU subversion in tpu.  Seems
> easier than my first suggestion, if ftp-master is willing to do that.

I think that's okay.

Ansgar

Message #50 received at 712615@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

To: Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>, 712615@bugs.debian.org

Cc: debian-perl@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#712615: transition: perl 5.18

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:17:15 +0200

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Hi Dominic,

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 23:01:00 +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:

> Dear release team,
> 
> As discussed briefly in the thread starting at
> <http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2013/05/msg00595.html>,
> now seems like a good time to get the perl 5.18 transition on the
> roadmap. The rebuild testing, across all packages which need to be
> rebuilt as part of the transition as well as all other lib*-perl
> packages, is now complete and the status is at
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=perl-5.18-transition;users=debian-perl@lists.debian.org
> 
Feel free to upload to sid at your convenience.

Cheers,
Julien

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Message #55 received at 712615@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>

To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

Cc: 712615@bugs.debian.org, debian-perl@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#712615: transition: perl 5.18

Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 22:57:22 +0100

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 02:17:15PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
> Hi Dominic,
> 
> On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 23:01:00 +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
> 
> > Dear release team,
> > 
> > As discussed briefly in the thread starting at
> > <http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2013/05/msg00595.html>,
> > now seems like a good time to get the perl 5.18 transition on the
> > roadmap. The rebuild testing, across all packages which need to be
> > rebuilt as part of the transition as well as all other lib*-perl
> > packages, is now complete and the status is at
> > 
> > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=perl-5.18-transition;users=debian-perl@lists.debian.org
> > 
> Feel free to upload to sid at your convenience.

Hi Julien,

Thanks for this! We will aim for an upload on Monday afternoon/evening
to give us enough time to finish some QA activities (and my being away
for much of the weekend).

Cheers,
Dominic.

Message #60 received at 712615@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>

To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

Cc: 712615@bugs.debian.org, debian-perl@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#712615: transition: perl 5.18

Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2013 22:57:53 +0100

On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 10:57:22PM +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 02:17:15PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
> > Hi Dominic,
> > 
> > On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 23:01:00 +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
> > 
> > > Dear release team,
> > > 
> > > As discussed briefly in the thread starting at
> > > <http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2013/05/msg00595.html>,
> > > now seems like a good time to get the perl 5.18 transition on the
> > > roadmap. The rebuild testing, across all packages which need to be
> > > rebuilt as part of the transition as well as all other lib*-perl
> > > packages, is now complete and the status is at
> > > 
> > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=perl-5.18-transition;users=debian-perl@lists.debian.org
> > > 
> > Feel free to upload to sid at your convenience.
> 
> Hi Julien,
> 
> Thanks for this! We will aim for an upload on Monday afternoon/evening
> to give us enough time to finish some QA activities (and my being away
> for much of the weekend).

Hi all,

perl 5.18.1-2 has now been accepted in unstable.

Thanks,
Dominic.

Message #79 received at 712615@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

To: Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>, 712615@bugs.debian.org

Cc: debian-perl@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#712615: transition: perl 5.18

Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 17:30:37 +0200

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On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 22:57:53 +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:

> perl 5.18.1-2 has now been accepted in unstable.
> 
For the record all binNMUs have been scheduled yesterday.  Some archs
are still catching up.

Cheers,
Julien

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Message #92 received at 712615@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Niko Tyni <ntyni@debian.org>

To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

Cc: Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>, 712615@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#712615: transition: perl 5.18

Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 21:38:16 +0300

On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 05:30:37PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 22:57:53 +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
> 
> > perl 5.18.1-2 has now been accepted in unstable.
> > 
> For the record all binNMUs have been scheduled yesterday.  Some archs
> are still catching up.

Hi Julien,

I see 5.18.1-2 is in tpu as discussed earlier. Just a heads up: I had to
upload 5.18.1-3 today to fix upgrade paths with libscalar-list-utils-perl,
I guess you want that in tpu as well.

Thanks for your work!
-- 
Niko Tyni   ntyni@debian.org

Message #113 received at 712615-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

To: Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>, 712615-done@bugs.debian.org

Cc: debian-perl@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#712615: transition: perl 5.18

Date: Sun, 8 Sep 2013 12:14:10 +0200

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On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 22:57:53 +0100, Dominic Hargreaves wrote:

> perl 5.18.1-2 has now been accepted in unstable.
> 
5.18.1-3 is in jessie, closing.  (At the cost of a few removals and a
few uninstallables.)

Cheers,
Julien

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