Debian Bug report logs - #712156
[mumble] Alternate OpenGL overlay solution

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Package: mumble; Maintainer for mumble is Christopher Knadle <>; Source for mumble is src:mumble.

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Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 15:54:02 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Found in version mumble/1.2.3-349-g315b5f5-2.2

Fixed in version mumble/1.2.4-0.1

Done: Christopher Knadle <>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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From: Chris Knadle <>
Subject: [mumble] Alternate OpenGL overlay solution
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2013 11:22:54 -0400
Package: mumble
Version: 1.2.3-349-g315b5f5-2.2
Severity: wishlist

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Ron --

Mumble upstream replied to a bug I submitted to them concerning the OpenGL bug 
that was dealt with in #691535 and after investigating they came up with a 
different solution.

----------------------------------------------------------------- as built fresh from Git is meant to work without
being linked to libGL. It overrides glXSwapBuffers (via traditional
LD_PRELOAD or by hooking into dlopen/dlsym), and will only ever
call OpenGL functions in the glXSwapBuffers call -- so OpenGL
functions will only be invoked if the process by some means
has loaded libGL (or equivalent) anyway.

This is the way it has worked for a long time.

While looking into this, I also found out why it doesn't work
that way for Debian anymore. The reason is that the rules file
sets DEB_BUILD_HARDENING=1 which, among other things, causes all
built binaries to be linked with "-z now". This causes all dynamic
symbols to resolved when the program is loaded.

In our normal build, we use "-z now" for all binaries and shared
libraries, except -- because we want the behavior
of a lightweight LD_PRELOADable library I described above.

I have updated the debian/rules file in our Ubuntu PPA with a fix
for this:

I set DEB_BUILD_HARDENING_BINDNOW=0, and let the Mumble build link
using "-z now" for the binaries it knows are OK with having load-time
symbol resolving.

Regarding the current Debian fix of linking directly with libGL,
I don't see too much harm. The Linux overlay only supports GLX
at present, so direct linking doesn't hurt in that regard. But
were the overlay to support a non-GLX OpenGL implementation in
the future, alongside the current GLX support, direct linking
probably wouldn't work out favourably.

Our preferred method however is still the lightweight LD_PRELOAD-able
overlay library which only links against libc and friends. That
way, we don't potentially bring in unwanted dependencies with us
when we're LD_PRELOADED into foreign programs, and we let the
environment of the foreign program guide our decisions.

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From: Christopher Knadle <>
Subject: Bug#712156: fixed in mumble 1.2.4-0.1
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 11:35:31 +0000
Source: mumble
Source-Version: 1.2.4-0.1

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
mumble, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
Christopher Knadle <> (supplier of updated mumble package)

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Format: 1.8
Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:54:31 -0400
Source: mumble
Binary: mumble mumble-server mumble-dbg
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1.2.4-0.1
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Ron Lee <>
Changed-By: Christopher Knadle <>
 mumble     - Low latency VoIP client
 mumble-dbg - Low latency VoIP client (debugging symbols)
 mumble-server - Low latency VoIP server
Closes: 706053 712156 726860 728545
 mumble (1.2.4-0.1) unstable; urgency=low
   * Non-maintainer upload.
   * New (stable upstream) version from 2013-06-01  Closes: #728545
   * Standards-Version: update to 3.9.4 (no changes needed)
   * debian/control:
       - Switch from zeroc-ice34 to zeroc-ice35
         Closes: #726860
       - Remove g++-4.6 dependency
   * debian/patches:
       - Remove deprecated quilt patches:
       - Refresh patch 02-reject-with-ip-in-log.diff, add DEP3 headers
       - Update 05-lsb-description.diff to add DEP3 headers
       - Add 06-connect-dialog-hang-dee463ef.diff patch from Ubuntu PPA
       - Refresh patch 07-use-embedded-celt-baseline, rename with .diff,
         add DEP3 headers
       - Add 09-register-mumble-URL-handler.diff  Closes: #706053
   * debian/rules:
       - Remove g++-4.6 hardcoding
       - Add DEB_BUILD_HARDENING_BINDNOW=0, upstream's suggested fix
         for #691535.  Closes: #712156
       - Update 'clean' target, 'rm -rf Ice' to allow rebuilding
   * debian/mumble.install:
       - Update to ship only
   * Add debian/mumble-server.init script
   * Add debian/watch file to monitor*.)\.tar\.gz
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