Debian Bug report logs - #703762
ITP: jdownloader-installer -- download manager for one-click hosting sites

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org>

Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:57:02 UTC

Owned by: Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org>

Severity: wishlist

Done: Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org>

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From: Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: ITP: jdownloader -- download manager for one-click hosting sites
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 12:53:09 +0100
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org>

* Package name    : jdownloader
  Version         : 0.9.581 / 0.4
  Upstream Author : AppWork UG (haftungsbeschränkt)
* URL             : http://jdownloader.org/
* License         : GPL-3
  Programming Lang: Java
  Section         : contrib/web
  Description     : download manager for one-click hosting sites

 JDownloader is open source, platform independent and written completely in
 Java. It simplifies downloading files from One-Click-Hosters like
 Rapidshare.com or Megaupload.com - not only for users with a premium account
 but also for users who don't pay. It offers downloading in multiple paralell
 streams, captcha recognition, automatical file extraction and much more. Of
 course, JDownloader is absolutely free of charge. Additionally, many "link
 encryption" sites are supported - so you just paste the "encrypted" links and
 JD does the rest. JDownloader can import CCF, RSDF and the new DLC files.
 .
 This package contains only a dektop file and a script, which will download and
 launch the latest JDownloader. The downloaded files will be stored in
 ~/.jdownloader by default.

The code for this package is hosted on
https://code.launchpad.net/~jd-team/jdownloader/launcher



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From: Michael Stapelberg <stapelberg@debian.org>
To: Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org>, 703762@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#703762: ITP: jdownloader -- download manager for one-click hosting sites
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 13:13:32 +0100
Hi Benjamin,

Thanks for working on this.

>   Version         : 0.9.581 / 0.4
Any chance to get jdownloader2?

>  This package contains only a dektop file and a script, which will download and
>  launch the latest JDownloader. The downloaded files will be stored in
>  ~/.jdownloader by default.
I think this is not intuitive. When installing jdownloader, I’d expect
the package to contain the actual, tested source. Especially I’d love to
get rid of jdownloader’s horrible auto-update system. Could you instead
package jdownloader itself? Or at least rename the package to signal
that this is merely an installer?

-- 
Best regards,
Michael



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From: Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org>
To: Michael Stapelberg <stapelberg@debian.org>
Cc: 703762@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#703762: ITP: jdownloader -- download manager for one-click hosting sites
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 13:29:13 +0100
Am Samstag, den 23.03.2013, 13:13 +0100 schrieb Michael Stapelberg:
> Hi Benjamin,
> 
> Thanks for working on this.
> 
> >   Version         : 0.9.581 / 0.4
> Any chance to get jdownloader2?

I have no plans for it. Patches to the downloader script to support
jdownloader2 beta are welcome.

> >  This package contains only a dektop file and a script, which will download and
> >  launch the latest JDownloader. The downloaded files will be stored in
> >  ~/.jdownloader by default.
> I think this is not intuitive. When installing jdownloader, I’d expect
> the package to contain the actual, tested source. Especially I’d love to
> get rid of jdownloader’s horrible auto-update system.

I would love to see a proper jdownloader packaging, too.

> Could you instead package jdownloader itself?

I tried, but failed miserable. Some libraries needs to be packaged and
the upstream build system needs to be bent to build on Debian. I would
love to ditch the launcher and replace it with a proper package. This is
a lot of work. Until this work is done, I like to have this launcher in
the contrib archive. This is suboptimal, but better than nothing.

> Or at least rename the package to signal that this is merely an installer?

I think the description is clear enough (otherwise improvements are
welcome). The package is installer, launcher, and provides desktop
integration. If you have a strong opinion to rename the package, can you
provide name suggestions?

-- 
Benjamin Drung
Debian & Ubuntu Developer




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From: Michael Stapelberg <stapelberg@debian.org>
To: Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org>
Cc: 703762@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#703762: ITP: jdownloader -- download manager for one-click hosting sites
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 13:40:55 +0100
Hi Benjamin,

Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org> writes:
> I tried, but failed miserable. Some libraries needs to be packaged and
> the upstream build system needs to be bent to build on Debian. I would
> love to ditch the launcher and replace it with a proper package. This is
> a lot of work. Until this work is done, I like to have this launcher in
> the contrib archive. This is suboptimal, but better than nothing.
I suspected that, but I really don’t want to get into Java packaging,
especially not in such a hairy case.

> I think the description is clear enough (otherwise improvements are
> welcome). The package is installer, launcher, and provides desktop
> integration. If you have a strong opinion to rename the package, can you
> provide name suggestions?
I’d suggest jdownloader-installer, but I don’t have a strong opinion for
renaming the package in the first place — I just think it would be a
good idea in order to keep the name jdownloader for “proper” packages
later and make it clear to users what they are getting when they are
installing jdownloader.

-- 
Best regards,
Michael



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From: Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org>
To: Michael Stapelberg <stapelberg@debian.org>
Cc: 703762@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#703762: ITP: jdownloader -- download manager for one-click hosting sites
Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 13:59:22 +0100
Hi Michael,

Am Samstag, den 23.03.2013, 13:40 +0100 schrieb Michael Stapelberg:
> Hi Benjamin,
> 
> Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org> writes:
> > I tried, but failed miserable. Some libraries needs to be packaged and
> > the upstream build system needs to be bent to build on Debian. I would
> > love to ditch the launcher and replace it with a proper package. This is
> > a lot of work. Until this work is done, I like to have this launcher in
> > the contrib archive. This is suboptimal, but better than nothing.
> I suspected that, but I really don’t want to get into Java packaging,
> especially not in such a hairy case.

That's comprehensible.

> > I think the description is clear enough (otherwise improvements are
> > welcome). The package is installer, launcher, and provides desktop
> > integration. If you have a strong opinion to rename the package, can you
> > provide name suggestions?
> I’d suggest jdownloader-installer, but I don’t have a strong opinion for
> renaming the package in the first place — I just think it would be a
> good idea in order to keep the name jdownloader for “proper” packages
> later and make it clear to users what they are getting when they are
> installing jdownloader.

A name conflict is no problem. This package will just be replaced by the
“proper” packages later.

Alternative package would be jdownloader-downloader,
jdownloader-launcher. There are a bunch of packages in contribute with
"-installer" in its name. A package that do not follow this rules is
flashplugin-nonfree. I haven't made up my mind what name to choose.

-- 
Benjamin Drung
Debian & Ubuntu Developer




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From: Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org>
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, 703762@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#703762: ITP: jdownloader -- download manager for one-click hosting sites
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 11:28:57 +0100
Hi,

On Samstag, 23. März 2013, Benjamin Drung wrote:
> * Package name    : jdownloader
> * License         : GPL-3
>   Section         : contrib/web
>   Description     : download manager for one-click hosting sites
> 
>  JDownloader is open source, platform independent and written completely in
>  Java. It simplifies downloading files from One-Click-Hosters like
>  Rapidshare.com or Megaupload.com - not only for users with a premium
> account but also for users who don't pay. It offers downloading in
> multiple paralell streams, captcha recognition, automatical file
> extraction and much more. Of course, JDownloader is absolutely free of
> charge. Additionally, many "link encryption" sites are supported - so you
> just paste the "encrypted" links and JD does the rest. JDownloader can
> import CCF, RSDF and the new DLC files. .
>  This package contains only a dektop file and a script, which will download
> and launch the latest JDownloader. The downloaded files will be stored in
> ~/.jdownloader by default.

At first, I stumbled upon "Of course, JDownloader is absolutely free of
charge" and was about to suggest to remove it, but then I realized that this 
is actually an installer package. 

So I rather recommend to call the package "jdownloader-installer" instead of 
"jdownloader" - and then probably still remove the "of course" from the 
description.


cheers,
	Holger



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From: Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org>
To: Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org>, 703762@bugs.debian.org
Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#703762: ITP: jdownloader -- download manager for one-click hosting sites
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:20:47 +0100
Am Sonntag, den 24.03.2013, 11:28 +0100 schrieb Holger Levsen:
> Hi,
> 
> On Samstag, 23. März 2013, Benjamin Drung wrote:
> > * Package name    : jdownloader
> > * License         : GPL-3
> >   Section         : contrib/web
> >   Description     : download manager for one-click hosting sites
> > 
> >  JDownloader is open source, platform independent and written completely in
> >  Java. It simplifies downloading files from One-Click-Hosters like
> >  Rapidshare.com or Megaupload.com - not only for users with a premium
> > account but also for users who don't pay. It offers downloading in
> > multiple paralell streams, captcha recognition, automatical file
> > extraction and much more. Of course, JDownloader is absolutely free of
> > charge. Additionally, many "link encryption" sites are supported - so you
> > just paste the "encrypted" links and JD does the rest. JDownloader can
> > import CCF, RSDF and the new DLC files. .
> >  This package contains only a dektop file and a script, which will download
> > and launch the latest JDownloader. The downloaded files will be stored in
> > ~/.jdownloader by default.
> 
> At first, I stumbled upon "Of course, JDownloader is absolutely free of
> charge" and was about to suggest to remove it, but then I realized that this 
> is actually an installer package. 

I removed that sentence completely from the description and...

> So I rather recommend to call the package "jdownloader-installer" instead of 
> "jdownloader" - and then probably still remove the "of course" from the 
> description.

...renamed the package to jdownloader-installer before you sent this
mail. The package is currently waiting in the NEW queue.

-- 
Benjamin Drung
Debian & Ubuntu Developer




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From: Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org>
To: 703762@bugs.debian.org
Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#703762: ITP: jdownloader -- download manager for one-click hosting sites
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 12:30:27 +0100
Hi Benjamin,

On Montag, 25. März 2013, Benjamin Drung wrote:
> I removed that sentence completely from the description and...
[...]
> ...renamed the package to jdownloader-installer before you sent this
> mail.

Thanks!


cheers,
	Holger






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From: Jonathan Dowland <jmtd@debian.org>
To: Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org>, 703762@bugs.debian.org
Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#703762: ITP: jdownloader -- download manager for one-click hosting sites
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 11:59:43 +0000
On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 01:29:13PM +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote:
> Am Samstag, den 23.03.2013, 13:13 +0100 schrieb Michael Stapelberg:
> > Could you instead package jdownloader itself?
> 
> I tried, but failed miserable. Some libraries needs to be packaged and
> the upstream build system needs to be bent to build on Debian. I would
> love to ditch the launcher and replace it with a proper package. This is
> a lot of work. Until this work is done, I like to have this launcher in
> the contrib archive. This is suboptimal, but better than nothing.

I'm not sure it *is* better than nothing, it could actually be worse. If you
don't personally have the time to "do it properly", why not try and put 
together a team to do it? If you do a downloader instead, what you do is
partially and sub-optimally meet the demand for a jdownloader package, which
will dilute the motivation for people to work on a proper solution. Then we
end up stuck with the sub-optimal solution.

I think downloader packages where required for licensing reasons are an uneasy
necessary evil, but for when the maintainer doesn't have time to package
something? This seems like a really slippery slope to me.

-- 
Jonathan Dowland




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From: Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org>
To: 703762@bugs.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#703762: ITP: jdownloader -- download manager for one-click hosting sites
Date: Tue, 26 Mar 2013 00:10:29 +0800
On 03/25/2013 07:59 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 01:29:13PM +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote:
>> Am Samstag, den 23.03.2013, 13:13 +0100 schrieb Michael Stapelberg:
>>> Could you instead package jdownloader itself?
>> I tried, but failed miserable. Some libraries needs to be packaged and
>> the upstream build system needs to be bent to build on Debian. I would
>> love to ditch the launcher and replace it with a proper package. This is
>> a lot of work. Until this work is done, I like to have this launcher in
>> the contrib archive. This is suboptimal, but better than nothing.
> I'm not sure it *is* better than nothing, it could actually be worse. If you
> don't personally have the time to "do it properly", why not try and put 
> together a team to do it? If you do a downloader instead, what you do is
> partially and sub-optimally meet the demand for a jdownloader package, which
> will dilute the motivation for people to work on a proper solution. Then we
> end up stuck with the sub-optimal solution.
>
> I think downloader packages where required for licensing reasons are an uneasy
> necessary evil, but for when the maintainer doesn't have time to package
> something? This seems like a really slippery slope to me.
I agree with Jonathan. I'd rather not see such a package in Debian.
What if everyone was doing that? We'd have a pretty bad main archive.
Plus this is a nightmare in terms of security. Or is it that you only plan
on providing security support for the downloader itself, and not for
the upstream package, which would be even worse?

Also, in what way having a jdownloader-installer package is much
better than using what's available upstream at
http://jdownloader.org/download/index ? They seem to provide an
Ubuntu package at least (but I haven't checked for it).

Cheers,

Thomas




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From: Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org>
To: Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org>
Cc: 703762@bugs.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#703762: ITP: jdownloader -- download manager for one-click hosting sites
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 17:25:14 +0100
Am Dienstag, den 26.03.2013, 00:10 +0800 schrieb Thomas Goirand:
> On 03/25/2013 07:59 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 01:29:13PM +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote:
> >> Am Samstag, den 23.03.2013, 13:13 +0100 schrieb Michael Stapelberg:
> >>> Could you instead package jdownloader itself?
> >> I tried, but failed miserable. Some libraries needs to be packaged and
> >> the upstream build system needs to be bent to build on Debian. I would
> >> love to ditch the launcher and replace it with a proper package. This is
> >> a lot of work. Until this work is done, I like to have this launcher in
> >> the contrib archive. This is suboptimal, but better than nothing.
> > I'm not sure it *is* better than nothing, it could actually be worse. If you
> > don't personally have the time to "do it properly", why not try and put 
> > together a team to do it? If you do a downloader instead, what you do is
> > partially and sub-optimally meet the demand for a jdownloader package, which
> > will dilute the motivation for people to work on a proper solution. Then we
> > end up stuck with the sub-optimal solution.
> >
> > I think downloader packages where required for licensing reasons are an uneasy
> > necessary evil, but for when the maintainer doesn't have time to package
> > something? This seems like a really slippery slope to me.
> I agree with Jonathan. I'd rather not see such a package in Debian.
> What if everyone was doing that? We'd have a pretty bad main archive.
> Plus this is a nightmare in terms of security. Or is it that you only plan
> on providing security support for the downloader itself, and not for
> the upstream package, which would be even worse?

JDownloader comes with an updater that will update itself.

> Also, in what way having a jdownloader-installer package is much
> better than using what's available upstream at
> http://jdownloader.org/download/index ? They seem to provide an
> Ubuntu package at least (but I haven't checked for it).

The Ubuntu package is identical to the proposed jdownloader-installer
package. The jdownloader-installer provides desktop integration
(.desktop file + icons) over the upstream installer.

-- 
Benjamin Drung
Debian & Ubuntu Developer




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From: Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org>
To: Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org>
Cc: 703762@bugs.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#703762: ITP: jdownloader -- download manager for one-click hosting sites
Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2013 01:03:42 +0800
On 03/29/2013 12:25 AM, Benjamin Drung wrote:
> JDownloader comes with an updater that will update itself.

Gosh! One more reason why not to package it then. You would otherwise
provide a backdoor to a 3rd party in any Debian system that has this
installed.

In Debian, we have a unified tool called apt, which is used to update /
upgrade things, did you know? :)

Thomas



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From: Thomas Koch <thomas@koch.ro>
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Cc: Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org>, 703762@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#703762: ITP: jdownloader -- download manager for one-click hosting sites
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 19:15:51 +0100
Benjamin Drung:
> Am Dienstag, den 26.03.2013, 00:10 +0800 schrieb Thomas Goirand:
> > On 03/25/2013 07:59 PM, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> > > On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 01:29:13PM +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote:
> > >> Am Samstag, den 23.03.2013, 13:13 +0100 schrieb Michael Stapelberg:
> > >>> Could you instead package jdownloader itself?

I've already spent many days (weeks?) of unpaid work to get gerrit into 
Debian. It's a bitch to package, has an imense list of dependencies and I even 
have to improve the Debian Java packaging infrastructure to get it built.

It feels like cheating to me, if others take shortcuts like this. Why should I 
do this hard work anymore?

It would also be much easier for me to just provide a downloader for the war 
file provided by upstream.

Apropos: The company developing jdownloader is searching for a Java developer 
in Fürth near Nürnberg (Germany). Somebody could help them to get a sane build 
system set up.

Regards,

Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro



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Message #74 received at 703762-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org>
To: 703762-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: ITP: jdownloader-installer -- download manager for one-click hosting sites
Date: Fri, 10 May 2013 17:24:23 +0200
jdownloader-installer won't be accepted in Debian. Someone needs to do
the intense work of properly package jdownloader. Please look at the RFP
bug #704152 [1].

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/704152

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Benjamin Drung
Debian & Ubuntu Developer




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