Debian Bug report logs - #694247
installation-report: problems with installation from iso-file present on hard drive (loop.ko and pata_amd.ko is absent)

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Vasiliy D." <defun44@gmail.com>

To: submit@bugs.debian.org

Subject: installation-report: problems with installation from iso-file present on hard drive (loop.ko and pata_amd.ko is absent)

Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 23:51:27 +0700

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Package: installation-reports

When I try install Debian (
http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.6/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.6-amd64-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso)
I boot from my hdd with grub:
menuentry 'debian-6.06-amd64.iso' {
    loopback loop /debian.iso
    linux (loop)/install.amd/vmlinuz vga=788 iso-scan/filename=/debian.iso
-- quiet
    initrd (loop)/install.amd/initrd.gz
}

But the option "iso-scan/filename" not work (Ok. It's normal. It's work
with a Ubuntu *.iso. I try it for Debian, but without success.) The Debian
image not include kernel module loop.ko, so not with the option, not
manually I can't mount iso-file
and install Debian. That's bad, but not fatal.
I find here (
http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apas02.html#howto-getting-images-hard-disk)
a way install Debian from my hdd with iso-file. I boot with this (
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/{initrd.gz,vmlinuz})
and try this (
http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/{initrd.gz,vmlinuz})
too, but both of them don't have kernel module pata_amd.ko and my hdd don't
appears in /dev after boot and I can't install Debian. I don't know, is it
a bug or not? It's no fatal for me, too. I boot and install Debian from my
usb flash drive, but more convenient ways is desirable. Thanks.

P.s. I'm sorry for my English. I hope it don't hurt your heart and ruin
your brain.

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Message #10 received at 694247@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Brian Potkin <claremont102@gmail.com>

To: "Vasiliy D." <defun44@gmail.com>, 694247@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#694247: installation-report: problems with installation from iso-file present on hard drive (loop.ko and pata_amd.ko is absent)

Date: Sat, 24 Nov 2012 20:38:11 +0000

On Sat 24 Nov 2012 at 23:51:27 +0700, Vasiliy D. wrote:

> When I try install Debian (
> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.6/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.6-amd64-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso)
> I boot from my hdd with grub:
> menuentry 'debian-6.06-amd64.iso' {
>     loopback loop /debian.iso
>     linux (loop)/install.amd/vmlinuz vga=788 iso-scan/filename=/debian.iso
> -- quiet
>     initrd (loop)/install.amd/initrd.gz
> }
> 
> But the option "iso-scan/filename" not work (Ok. It's normal. It's work
> with a Ubuntu *.iso. I try it for Debian, but without success.) The Debian

The Ubuntu *.iso may be built differently. Possibly it is a Live one.

> image not include kernel module loop.ko, so not with the option, not

'ls -l /dev/loop*' shows /dev/loop0.

> manually I can't mount iso-file
> and install Debian. That's bad, but not fatal.

	menuentry 'debian-6.06-amd64.iso' {
	loopback loop /debian.iso
	linux (loop)/install.amd/vmlinuz
	initrd (loop)/install.amd/initrd.gz

boots the ISO for me. "loop0" for "loop" is OK too. The problems start
at the detecting and mounting the CD-ROM stage. To avoid them you need
a netboot mini ISO.

> I find here (
> http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apas02.html#howto-getting-images-hard-disk)
> a way install Debian from my hdd with iso-file. I boot with this (
> http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/{initrd.gz,vmlinuz})
> and try this (
> http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/{initrd.gz,vmlinuz})
> too, but both of them don't have kernel module pata_amd.ko and my hdd don't
> appears in /dev after boot and I can't install Debian. I don't know, is it
> a bug or not? It's no fatal for me, too. I boot and install Debian from my
> usb flash drive, but more convenient ways is desirable. Thanks.

I'm very surprised you find installing from a USB flash drive less
convenient than a hard disk install. Having i386 and and64 ISOs as
isohybrids is one of the best things which has happened in Debian in
recent years.

Message #15 received at 694247@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Vasiliy D." <defun44@gmail.com>

To: 694247@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#694247

Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2012 01:23:18 +0700

X-Debbugs-CC: claremont102@gmail.com

Thanks for your answer, Brian Potkin.

> 'ls -l /dev/loop*' shows /dev/loop0.

Ok. I see /dev/loop0 too. But if I try mount iso file
mount -t iso9660 -o loop /mnt/sda1/debian.iso /mnt/iso    ##
/mnt/sda1/debian.iso and /mnt/iso is present
console hangs, but Ctrl-C helps. After that in /dev appears huge
number loops (loop0...loop0999 ... loop9...loop999).
May you show a way mount this iso image after boot from one?

>         menuentry 'debian-6.06-amd64.iso' {
>         loopback loop /debian.iso
>         linux (loop)/install.amd/vmlinuz
>         initrd (loop)/install.amd/initrd.gz
>
> boots the ISO for me. "loop0" for "loop" is OK too. The problems start
> at the detecting and mounting the CD-ROM stage. To avoid them you need
> a netboot mini ISO.

I know about netboot mini iso, but I wish to have possibility install
debian from main iso-images. At least with manual way, but the
automatic method with "iso-scan/filename=" is desirable.


> I'm very surprised you find installing from a USB flash drive less
> convenient than a hard disk install. Having i386 and and64 ISOs as
> isohybrids is one of the best things which has happened in Debian in
> recent years.

I'm very glad of all Debian community it has happened with them. Only
I want little more.
Let's look at http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/main/installer-amd64/current/images/hd-media/{initrd.gz,vmlinuz}.
If I do command on this I see:
ls /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/drivers/ata/
ahci.ko
ata_generic.ko
ata_piix.ko
libata.ko
pata_sis.ko
pdc_adma.ko
sata_inic162x.ko
sata_mv.ko
sata_nv.ko
sata_promise.ko
sata_qstor.ko
sata_sil.ko
sata_sil24.ko
sata_sis.ko
sata_svw.ko
sata_sx4.ko
sata_uli.ko
sata_via.ko
sata_vsc.ko

Why pata_sis.ko present on this image, but pata_amd.ko not? Sis lobby
more powerful and rich then amd one? :)
In my case I need pata_sis.ko for recognize my hdd and then partitions
on it. Only after that I can manually or with auto-search from
installer find a appropriate Debian iso image and install one. Is
hd-media images for usb-hdd only? This link
(http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/apas02.html#howto-getting-images-hard-disk)
say NOT.
Let's look at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.6/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.6-amd64-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso:
ls /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/drivers/ata/
ahci.ko
ata_generic.ko
ata_piix.ko
libata.ko
pata_ali.ko
pata_amd.ko
pata_artop.ko
pata_atiixp.ko
pata_cmd64x.ko
pata_cs5520.ko
pata_cs5530.ko
pata_efar.ko
pata_it821x.ko
pata_jmicron.ko
pata_marvell.ko
pata_mpiix.ko
pata_netcell.ko
pata_ns87410.ko
pata_oldpiix.ko
pata_pdc2027x.ko
pata_pdc202xx_old.ko
pata_rz1000.ko
pata_sc1200.ko
pata_sch.ko
pata_serverworks.ko
pata_sil680.ko
pata_sis.ko
pata_triflex.ko
pata_via.ko
pdc_adma.ko
sata_inic162x.ko
sata_mv.ko
sata_nv.ko
sata_promise.ko
sata_qstor.ko
sata_sil.ko
sata_sil24.ko
sata_sis.ko
sata_svw.ko
sata_sx4.ko
sata_uli.ko
sata_via.ko
sata_vsc.ko

What is funny...   It have pata_amd, but haven't loop.ko. Hd-media
have loop.ko, but not many needed pata_xxx.ko. I'm confused.

It's all I want to say. Thanks for your attention.

Message #20 received at 694247@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Brian Potkin <claremont102@gmail.com>

To: "Vasiliy D." <defun44@gmail.com>, 694247@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#694247:

Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2012 14:52:13 +0000

On Tue 27 Nov 2012 at 01:23:18 +0700, Vasiliy D. wrote:

> X-Debbugs-CC: claremont102@gmail.com
> 
> Thanks for your answer, Brian Potkin.
> 
> > 'ls -l /dev/loop*' shows /dev/loop0.
> 
> Ok. I see /dev/loop0 too. But if I try mount iso file
> mount -t iso9660 -o loop /mnt/sda1/debian.iso /mnt/iso    ##
> /mnt/sda1/debian.iso and /mnt/iso is present
> console hangs, but Ctrl-C helps. After that in /dev appears huge
> number loops (loop0...loop0999 ... loop9...loop999).
> May you show a way mount this iso image after boot from one?

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/12/msg00092.html

Message #25 received at 694247-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org>

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Subject: dealing with old installation-reports

Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2013 12:52:55 +0200

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Hi,

thank you for submitting installation reports, much appreciated.

I read through all the bugs mentioned here (and I'm sure they were read by 
several people at the time they were submitted) and am closing them now as/if
- they (finally) indicated success and/or
- I know from first hand experience that the functionality is working in 
Wheezy and/or
- they only contained very little information and/or
- they contained user errors and/or
- they were caused by broken hardware and/or
- they have been from a development phase where things were not stable and/or
- they are quite old (and thus likely fixed today) and/or
- moreinfo was asked and not given or
- they are wishlist but rather special + exotic and not have been acted on for 
years. (See http://blog.liw.fi/posts/wishlist-bugs/ why it's often useful to 
close wishlist bugs.)

If I've closed a bug incorrectly please do reply (it's easy to reopen and I'll 
do if requested) or just file a new one - thats often better, as the bug log 
will be clearer and shorter and not contain cruft.


cheers,
        Holger

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