Debian Bug report logs - #692789
ITP: hybserv -- IRC services for IRCD-Hybrid

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>

Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 21:27:02 UTC

Owned by: Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>

Severity: wishlist

Done: Mònica Ramírez Arceda <monica@debian.org>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#692789; Package wnpp. (Thu, 08 Nov 2012 21:27:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>:
New Bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to debian-devel@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org. (Thu, 08 Nov 2012 21:27:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: ITP: hybserv -- IRC services for IRCD-Hybrid
Date: Thu, 08 Nov 2012 21:26:20 +0000
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>

* Package name    : hybserv
  Version         : 1.9.2
  Upstream Author : Patrick Alken and Dinko Korunic
* URL             : http://sourceforge.net/projects/hybserv2/
* License         : GPL
  Programming Lang: C
  Description     : IRC services for IRCD-Hybrid

HybServ is a daemon that connects to your IRCD-Hybrid server and
automagically provides nickname, channel, memo, and oper services to your
entire network if it is configured correctly to talk with your IRC server.

In short, these allow users to register nicknames and channels to prevent
EFnet-style takeovers thereof, allow opers to easily manage glines, klines,
and other server settings, and allow users with registered nicknames to
leave messages for others.

HybServ is the services package of choice on IRC networks such as Aniverse.

Note: this would be a reintroduction of the package which was removed
from testing and unstable earlier this year; please see

<https://lists.debian.org/debian-qa/2012/11/msg00005.html>
or the same message:
<https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2012/11/msg00041.html>



Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org, Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>:
Bug#692789; Package wnpp. (Thu, 08 Nov 2012 21:54:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Peter Samuelson <peter@p12n.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to wnpp@debian.org, Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>. (Thu, 08 Nov 2012 21:54:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #10 received at 692789@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Peter Samuelson <peter@p12n.org>
To: Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>, 692789@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#692789: ITP: hybserv -- IRC services for IRCD-Hybrid
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 15:51:20 -0600
[Dominic Hargreaves]
> HybServ is a daemon that connects to your IRCD-Hybrid server and
> automagically provides nickname, channel, memo, and oper services to your
> entire network if it is configured correctly to talk with your IRC server.

"Automagically"?  When you install a server package, configure it, and
start it, and it then provides services, would you really describe that
as not only automated, but like magic?

It seems to me that that's a pretty pessimistic view of server software
in general.  My own expectation is that if I install, configure and
start a daemon - any daemon - it will provide whatever services it is
supposed to provide.  And if it does, I don't see anything especially
automatic or magical about it.  I mean, _all_ software is "automatic"
in a sense, and very little software is really "magic".

All of which is to say, I would drop the word 'automagically'.  And not
just because I dislike neologisms, although I do.

Peter



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Bug#692789; Package wnpp. (Thu, 08 Nov 2012 21:57:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>:
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Message #15 received at 692789@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>
To: Peter Samuelson <peter@p12n.org>
Cc: 692789@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#692789: ITP: hybserv -- IRC services for IRCD-Hybrid
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 21:54:13 +0000
On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 03:51:20PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote:
> 
> [Dominic Hargreaves]
> > HybServ is a daemon that connects to your IRCD-Hybrid server and
> > automagically provides nickname, channel, memo, and oper services to your
> > entire network if it is configured correctly to talk with your IRC server.
> 
> "Automagically"?  When you install a server package, configure it, and
> start it, and it then provides services, would you really describe that
> as not only automated, but like magic?
> 
> It seems to me that that's a pretty pessimistic view of server software
> in general.  My own expectation is that if I install, configure and
> start a daemon - any daemon - it will provide whatever services it is
> supposed to provide.  And if it does, I don't see anything especially
> automatic or magical about it.  I mean, _all_ software is "automatic"
> in a sense, and very little software is really "magic".
> 
> All of which is to say, I would drop the word 'automagically'.  And not
> just because I dislike neologisms, although I do.

I agree with everything you said :) ITP just has the details from the
existing package, but I have removed the word from my git repository.

Cheers,
Dominic.

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Added tag(s) pending. Request was from Anibal Monsalve Salazar <anibal@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Sun, 06 Jan 2013 16:27:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Reply sent to Mònica Ramírez Arceda <monica@debian.org>:
You have taken responsibility. (Sat, 06 Apr 2013 12:15:09 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Notification sent to Dominic Hargreaves <dom@earth.li>:
Bug acknowledged by developer. (Sat, 06 Apr 2013 12:15:09 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #22 received at 692789-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mònica Ramírez Arceda <monica@debian.org>
To: 692789-close@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Closing #692789: package hybserv already in Debian
Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2013 14:08:57 +0200
Hi,

I'm closing this bug because this package is already in Debian: http://packages.qa.debian.org/hybserv

Regards.



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