Debian Bug report logs - #691180
connman: Connman won't run due to missing libxtables.so.7

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Mike Ruprecht <mike.ruprecht@collabora.co.uk>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: connman: Connman won't run due to missing libxtables.so.7

Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:21:44 -0500

Package: connman
Version: 1.0-1
Severity: grave
Justification: renders package unusable

Dear Maintainer,

   * What led up to the situation?
      I installed connman
   * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
     ineffective)?
      I ran `/etc/init.d/connman start` as root
   * What was the outcome of this action?
      It output:
         [....] Starting Connection Manager:/usr/sbin/connmand: error while
loading shared libraries: libxtables.so.7: cannot open shared object file: No
such file or directory
          failed!
   * What outcome did you expect instead?
      Connman to start



-- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
  APT prefers stable-updates
  APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing'), (500, 'stable'), (101, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages connman depends on:
ii  dbus          1.6.8-1
ii  iptables      1.4.16.3-1
ii  libc6         2.13-35
ii  libdbus-1-3   1.6.8-1
ii  libglib2.0-0  2.33.12+really2.32.4-2
ii  libgnutls26   2.12.20-1
ii  lsb-base      4.1+Debian7

Versions of packages connman recommends:
ii  bluez          4.99-2
ii  wpasupplicant  1.0-3

connman suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information

Message #10 received at 691180@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Anton Gladky <gladky.anton@gmail.com>

To: control@bugs.debian.org

Cc: 691180@bugs.debian.org, 691180-submitter@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Outdated binaries

Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 23:31:39 +0200

tags 691180 + patch
thanks

Hello,

the rebuilding of the package helps to solve the problem.
The version of shared library is picking up in this case
correctly.

Tagging as "patch", as the solution was checked.
The package requires binNMU.

Cheers,

Anton

Message #20 received at 691180@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Stapelberg <stapelberg@debian.org>

To: Mike Ruprecht <mike.ruprecht@collabora.co.uk>

Cc: 691180@bugs.debian.org, Anton Gladky <gladky.anton@gmail.com>, control@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: connman: Connman won't run due to missing libxtables.so.7

Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 23:07:35 +0200

tags 691180 + wheezy-ignore
thanks

Hi,

On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 12:21:44 -0500
Mike Ruprecht <mike.ruprecht@collabora.co.uk> wrote:
> ii  iptables      1.4.16.3-1
This version of iptables (1.4.16.3-1) is currently in unstable only and
there is no freeze unblock request filed. With the version of iptables
which is currently in testing (1.4.14-3) this problem is not
reproducible because libxtables.so.7 is still included).

Therefore, the bug does not affect wheezy and I’m tagging it
wheezy-ignore so that it does not count as an RC bug for wheezy.

-- 
Best regards,
Michael

Message #27 received at 691180@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>

To: Michael Stapelberg <stapelberg@debian.org>

Cc: 691180@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: connman: Connman won't run due to missing libxtables.so.7

Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 17:41:56 -0700

tags 691180 - wheezy-ignore + sid experimental
quit

Hi Michael,

Michael Stapelberg wrote:

> This version of iptables (1.4.16.3-1) is currently in unstable only and
> there is no freeze unblock request filed. With the version of iptables
> which is currently in testing (1.4.14-3) this problem is not
> reproducible because libxtables.so.7 is still included).
>
> Therefore, the bug does not affect wheezy and I’m tagging it
> wheezy-ignore so that it does not count as an RC bug for wheezy.

Close. :)  I'm fixing the tags.  The wheezy-ignore tag has a different
purpose and is reserved for release team use.

Thanks,
Jonathan

Message #40 received at 691180@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk>

To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>, 691180@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Michael Stapelberg <stapelberg@debian.org>

Subject: Re: Bug#691180: connman: Connman won't run due to missing libxtables.so.7

Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 20:59:43 +0100

On Fri, 2012-10-26 at 17:41 -0700, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> tags 691180 - wheezy-ignore + sid experimental
[...]
> > Therefore, the bug does not affect wheezy and I’m tagging it
> > wheezy-ignore so that it does not count as an RC bug for wheezy.
> 
> Close. :)  I'm fixing the tags.  The wheezy-ignore tag has a different
> purpose and is reserved for release team use.

Indeed. See the highlighted sections of
http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#tags

Regards,

Adam

Message #45 received at 691180@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>

To: 691180@bugs.debian.org

Cc: control@bugs.debian.org, Mike Ruprecht <mike.ruprecht@collabora.co.uk>, Anton Gladky <gladky.anton@gmail.com>, Michael Stapelberg <stapelberg@debian.org>, Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>, "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk>

Subject: Re: connman: Connman won't run due to missing libxtables.so.7

Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 02:35:04 +0100

close 691180
thanks

Hi,

there have been new uploads of connman both into testing and unstable,
the issue has been resolved as the package has been rebuilt in both
cases.

Adrian

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Message #54 received at 691180@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>

To: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>

Cc: 691180@bugs.debian.org, iptables@packages.debian.org, release.debian.org@packages.debian.org

Subject: Re: connman: Connman won't run due to missing libxtables.so.7

Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 01:22:21 -0800

found 691180 connman/1.0-1.1+wheezy1
fixed 691180 connman/1.0-1.2
quit

Hi Adrian,

John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:

> close 691180
> thanks
>
> Hi,
>
> there have been new uploads of connman both into testing and unstable,
> the issue has been resolved as the package has been rebuilt in both
> cases.

This has been fixed in sid but not in wheezy. :(

In sid, the dependency on libxtables9 avoids trouble:

 $ cupt show connman/sid | egrep 'Version|Depends|Conflicts|Breaks'
 Version: 1.0-1.2
 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.9), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.1.1), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.28.0), libgnutls26 (>= 2.12.17-0), libxtables9, dbus, lsb-base

In wheezy, there is instead an unversioned dependency on iptables,
which is not enough to ensure the correct shared library is present:

 $ cupt show connman/wheezy | egrep 'Version|Depends|Conflicts|Breaks'
 Version: 1.0-1.1+wheezy1
 Depends: iptables, libc6 (>= 2.9), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.1.1), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.28.0), libgnutls26 (>= 2.12.17-0), dbus, lsb-base

Fixing this properly would presumably require an iptables update in
testing (either bumping shlibs or, better, backporting the
introduction of a separate libxtables9 package from sid) followed by a
binnmu.

Hope that helps,
Jonathan

Message #65 received at 691180@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk>

To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>

Cc: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>, <691180@bugs.debian.org>, <iptables@packages.debian.org>, <release.debian.org@packages.debian.org>

Subject: Re: connman: Connman won't run due to missing libxtables.so.7

Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 10:30:25 +0000

On 24.01.2013 09:22, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
>
>> close 691180
>> thanks
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> there have been new uploads of connman both into testing and 
>> unstable,
>> the issue has been resolved as the package has been rebuilt in both
>> cases.
[...]
> In wheezy, there is instead an unversioned dependency on iptables,
> which is not enough to ensure the correct shared library is present:
[...]
> Fixing this properly would presumably require an iptables update in
> testing (either bumping shlibs or, better, backporting the
> introduction of a separate libxtables9 package from sid) followed by 
> a
> binnmu.

Introducing new binary packages via tpu at this stage of a freeze 
doesn't immediately meet my definition of "better", fwiw...

Regards,

Adam

Message #70 received at 691180@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>

To: "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk>

Cc: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>, 691180@bugs.debian.org, iptables@packages.debian.org, release.debian.org@packages.debian.org

Subject: Re: connman: Connman won't run due to missing libxtables.so.7

Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 13:19:20 -0800

Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> On 24.01.2013 09:22, Jonathan Nieder wrote:

>> Fixing this properly would presumably require an iptables update in
>> testing (either bumping shlibs or, better, backporting the
>> introduction of a separate libxtables9 package from sid) followed by a
>> binnmu.
>
> Introducing new binary packages via tpu at this stage of a freeze doesn't
> immediately meet my definition of "better", fwiw...

Sure.  It's better because without a separate package the upgrade path
is complicated.  With a separate package:

	install libxtables9
	upgrade packages that use libxtables
	upgrade iptables

Without a separate package:

	deconfigure packages that use libxtables
	upgrade iptables
	upgrade packages that use libxtables

In other words, having a separate package allows both versions of
the library to coexist on the filesystem.

Here are the Reverse-build-dependencies of iptables-dev: collectd,
connman, iproute, linux-igd, nufw, perlipq, shaperd, west-chamber,
xtables-addons.

Of those, only connman and xtables-addons declare a dependency on
libxtables9.  It looks like the transition wasn't finished in sid. :(

Message #77 received at 691180@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>

Cc: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>, 691180@bugs.debian.org, iptables@packages.debian.org, release.debian.org@packages.debian.org

Subject: Re: connman: Connman won't run due to missing libxtables.so.7

Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 12:29:01 +0000

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On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 01:22:21 -0800, Jonathan Nieder wrote:

> found 691180 connman/1.0-1.1+wheezy1
> fixed 691180 connman/1.0-1.2
> quit
> 
> Hi Adrian,
> 
> John Paul Adrian Glaubitz wrote:
> 
> > close 691180
> > thanks
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > there have been new uploads of connman both into testing and unstable,
> > the issue has been resolved as the package has been rebuilt in both
> > cases.
> 
> This has been fixed in sid but not in wheezy. :(
> 
> In sid, the dependency on libxtables9 avoids trouble:
> 
>  $ cupt show connman/sid | egrep 'Version|Depends|Conflicts|Breaks'
>  Version: 1.0-1.2
>  Depends: libc6 (>= 2.9), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.1.1), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.28.0), libgnutls26 (>= 2.12.17-0), libxtables9, dbus, lsb-base
> 
> In wheezy, there is instead an unversioned dependency on iptables,
> which is not enough to ensure the correct shared library is present:
> 
>  $ cupt show connman/wheezy | egrep 'Version|Depends|Conflicts|Breaks'
>  Version: 1.0-1.1+wheezy1
>  Depends: iptables, libc6 (>= 2.9), libdbus-1-3 (>= 1.1.1), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.28.0), libgnutls26 (>= 2.12.17-0), dbus, lsb-base
> 
> Fixing this properly would presumably require an iptables update in
> testing (either bumping shlibs or, better, backporting the
> introduction of a separate libxtables9 package from sid) followed by a
> binnmu.
> 
NAK.  iptables in sid needs to add Breaks on the packages in wheezy that
want libxtables.so.7.  And 691180 should be reassigned to iptables.

Cheers,
Julien

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Message #82 received at 691180@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>

To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

Cc: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>, 691180@bugs.debian.org, iptables@packages.debian.org, release.debian.org@packages.debian.org

Subject: Re: connman: Connman won't run due to missing libxtables.so.7

Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 07:04:16 -0800

reassign 691180 iptables 1.4.14-3
affects 691180 + connman
quit

Hi Julien,

Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 01:22:21 -0800, Jonathan Nieder wrote:

>> In wheezy, there is instead an unversioned dependency on iptables,
>> which is not enough to ensure the correct shared library is present:
[...]
> NAK.  iptables in sid needs to add Breaks on the packages in wheezy that
> want libxtables.so.7.  And 691180 should be reassigned to iptables.

Huh?  Changing iptables in sid would fix squeeze-to-wheezy upgrades
how, exactly?

To recap, iptables in squeeze and wheezy contain a shared library
(libxtables) used by other packages.  The version in squeeze is

	/lib/libxtables.so.4

The version in wheezy is

	/lib/libxtables.so.7

This produces upgrade problems.

Message #97 received at 691180@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

To: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>

Cc: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>, 691180@bugs.debian.org, iptables@packages.debian.org, release.debian.org@packages.debian.org

Subject: Re: connman: Connman won't run due to missing libxtables.so.7

Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 15:10:18 +0000

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On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 07:04:16 -0800, Jonathan Nieder wrote:

> reassign 691180 iptables 1.4.14-3
> affects 691180 + connman
> quit
> 
> Hi Julien,
> 
> Julien Cristau wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 01:22:21 -0800, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> 
> >> In wheezy, there is instead an unversioned dependency on iptables,
> >> which is not enough to ensure the correct shared library is present:
> [...]
> > NAK.  iptables in sid needs to add Breaks on the packages in wheezy that
> > want libxtables.so.7.  And 691180 should be reassigned to iptables.
> 
> Huh?  Changing iptables in sid would fix squeeze-to-wheezy upgrades
> how, exactly?
> 
> To recap, iptables in squeeze and wheezy contain a shared library
> (libxtables) used by other packages.  The version in squeeze is
> 
> 	/lib/libxtables.so.4
> 
> The version in wheezy is
> 
> 	/lib/libxtables.so.7
> 
> This produces upgrade problems.
> 
Well then iptables in wheezy should have breaks on the packages in
squeeze that link against libxtables.so.4, too...

Cheers,
Julien

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Message #102 received at 691180@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>

To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

Cc: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz <glaubitz@physik.fu-berlin.de>, 691180@bugs.debian.org, iptables@packages.debian.org, release.debian.org@packages.debian.org

Subject: Re: connman: Connman won't run due to missing libxtables.so.7

Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 08:32:38 -0800

Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 26, 2013 at 07:04:16 -0800, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
>> Julien Cristau wrote:

>>> NAK.  iptables in sid needs to add Breaks on the packages in wheezy that
>>> want libxtables.so.7.  And 691180 should be reassigned to iptables.
[...]
>> To recap, iptables in squeeze and wheezy contain a shared library
>> (libxtables) used by other packages.  The version in squeeze is
>>
>>	/lib/libxtables.so.4
>>
>> The version in wheezy is
>>
>>	/lib/libxtables.so.7
>>
>> This produces upgrade problems.
>
> Well then iptables in wheezy should have breaks on the packages in
> squeeze that link against libxtables.so.4, too...

What package expression can iptables/sid use to represent "packages
using libxtables built against iptables/wheezy"?  Dependencies like

	Breaks: connman (<< 1.0-1.2)

become useless as soon as a newer version of connman is in
wheezy-backports.

I don't know what constraint makes introducing a libxtables7 package a
bad thing to do, so I don't know how to avoid it when coming up with
an appropriate fix.  One possibility would be to make iptables
'Provides: libxtables7' and to make shlibs create dependencies on
that.

That said, here's a patch adding appropriate Breaks for
squeeze->wheezy upgrades.  Luckily not every package with a build-time
dependency on iptables-dev uses libxtables.

diff --git i/debian/changelog w/debian/changelog
index 6e7f55c2..eaf24993 100644
--- i/debian/changelog
+++ w/debian/changelog
@@ -1,3 +1,11 @@
+iptables (1.4.14-3.1) testing; urgency=low
+
+  * Non-maintainer upload.
+  * Add Breaks against iproute and xtables-addons-common versions
+    that relied on libxtables4. Closes: #691180
+
+ -- Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>  Sat, 26 Jan 2013 08:31:40 -0800
+
 iptables (1.4.14-3) unstable; urgency=low
 
   * Fixes iptables comment output error reported by Christoph Anton
diff --git i/debian/control w/debian/control
index 1e9d513c..32e26642 100644
--- i/debian/control
+++ w/debian/control
@@ -9,6 +9,7 @@ Homepage: http://www.netfilter.org/
 Package: iptables
 Architecture: any
 Depends: ${misc:Depends}, ${shlibs:Depends}
+Breaks: iproute (<< 20120521-3), xtables-addons-common (<< 1.42-2)
 Description: administration tools for packet filtering and NAT
  These are the user-space administration tools for the Linux
  kernel's netfilter and iptables. netfilter and iptables provide

Message #107 received at 691180@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

To: 691180@bugs.debian.org

Subject: iptables: diff for NMU version 1.4.14-3.1

Date: Fri, 1 Mar 2013 14:59:53 +0100

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tags 691180 + patch
tags 691180 + pending
thanks

Dear maintainer,

I've prepared an NMU for iptables (versioned as 1.4.14-3.1) and
will upload it asap.  NMU diff attached.

Cheers,
Julien

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Message #116 received at 691180-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

To: 691180-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#691180: fixed in iptables 1.4.14-3.1

Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 16:33:06 +0000

Source: iptables
Source-Version: 1.4.14-3.1

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
iptables, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive.

A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 691180@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> (supplier of updated iptables package)

(This message was generated automatically at their request; if you
believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive
administrators by mailing ftpmaster@debian.org)


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Date: Fri, 01 Mar 2013 14:50:39 +0100
Source: iptables
Binary: iptables iptables-dev
Architecture: source amd64
Version: 1.4.14-3.1
Distribution: wheezy
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Laurence J. Lane <ljlane@debian.org>
Changed-By: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>
Description: 
 iptables   - administration tools for packet filtering and NAT
 iptables-dev - iptables development files
Closes: 691180
Changes: 
 iptables (1.4.14-3.1) wheezy; urgency=low
 .
   [ Jonathan Nieder ]
   * Non-maintainer upload.
   * Add Breaks against iproute and xtables-addons-common versions
     that relied on libxtables4. Closes: #691180
 .
   [ Julien Cristau ]
   * Have iptables provide libxtables7, and tell dh_makeshlibs to include that
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Message #121 received at 691180@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: peter green <plugwash@p10link.net>

To: 691180@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>, Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com>

Subject: re: connman: Connman won't run due to missing libxtables.so.7

Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2013 01:37:01 +0100

I just ran across this bug (because of perlipq having unsatisfiable 
build-depenencies in testing) and it seems it has been closed in the 
version currently in wheezy and jessie but not in the version currently 
in sid. It seems that the package in testing added breaks for 
squeeze-wheezy updates and added a provides and shlibs rules to 
facilitate wheezy-(future release that contains the package currently in 
sid, presumablly jessie) updates.

AIUI debian does not support upgrades that skip a release. It's not 
clear to me from the bug log if all packages in wheezy that use 
libxtables were rebuilt after the provides/shlibs stuff was added.

Can someone who is familiar with these issues determine if any further 
action regarding this issue is needed on the sid package before it 
migrates to jessie and either take such action (if needed) or mark this 
as fixed in the sid version (if not needed).

Message #126 received at 691180-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "Laurence J. Lane" <ljlane@debian.org>

To: 691180-done@bugs.debian.org

Subject: connman: Connman won't run due to missing libxtables.so.7

Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2013 08:33:59 -0400

Source: iptables
Source-Version: 1.4.16.3-4

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