Debian Bug report logs - #688107
ITP: casa -- The Common Astronomy Software Applications package

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Ole Streicher <debian@liska.ath.cx>

Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 13:09:02 UTC

Owned by: Ole Streicher <debian@liska.ath.cx>

Severity: wishlist

Done: Ole Streicher <debian@liska.ath.cx>

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From: Ole Streicher <debian@liska.ath.cx>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: ITP: casa -- The Common Astronomy Software Applications package
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:05:04 +0200
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ole Streicher <debian@liska.ath.cx>
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, debian-science@lists.debian.org

* Package name    : casa
  Version         : 3.4.0
  Upstream Author : Several institutions under the guidance of NRAO
* URL             : http://casa.nrao.edu/
* License         : GPLv3+
  Programming Lang: C++
  Description     : Common Astronomy Software Applications package

CASA, the Common Astronomy Software Applications package, is being
developed with the primary goal of supporting the data post-processing
needs of the next generation of radio astronomical telescopes such as
ALMA and EVLA. The package can process both interferometric and single
dish data.

The CASA infrastructure consists of a set of C++ tools bundled together
under an iPython interface as a set of data reduction tasks. This
structure provides flexibility to process the data via task interface or
as a python script. In addition to the data reduction tasks, many
post-processing tools are available for even more flexibility and
special purpose reduction needs.

A git repository is created at

http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=debian-science/packages/casa.git

Best regards

Ole



Added blocking bug(s) of 688107: 686924 Request was from Ole Streicher <debian@liska.ath.cx> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Wed, 19 Sep 2012 13:15:08 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Julian Taylor <jtaylor.debian@googlemail.com>
To: Ole Streicher <debian@liska.ath.cx>, 688107@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#688107: ITP: casa -- The Common Astronomy Software Applications package
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 19:46:57 +0200
> 
> The CASA infrastructure consists of a set of C++ tools bundled together
> under an iPython interface as a set of data reduction tasks.

from a brief look through the source it seems it is still using ipython
<= 0.10 and thus incompatible with debians ipython >= 0.13.



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From: Ole Streicher <debian@liska.ath.cx>
To: Julian Taylor <jtaylor.debian@googlemail.com>, 688107@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#688107: ITP: casa -- The Common Astronomy Software Applications package
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:45:39 +0200
Hi Julian,

On 19.09.2012 19:46, Julian Taylor wrote:
> from a brief look through the source it seems it is still using ipython
> <= 0.10 and thus incompatible with debians ipython >= 0.13.

What concrete problems should I expect here?

And do you have a feeling how much work it would be to push the source
to 0.13 compatibility?

Best regards

Ole




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From: Julian Taylor <jtaylor.debian@googlemail.com>
To: Ole Streicher <debian@liska.ath.cx>
Cc: 688107@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#688107: ITP: casa -- The Common Astronomy Software Applications package
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 20:00:44 +0200
On 09/20/2012 09:45 AM, Ole Streicher wrote:
> Hi Julian,
> 
> On 19.09.2012 19:46, Julian Taylor wrote:
>> from a brief look through the source it seems it is still using ipython
>> <= 0.10 and thus incompatible with debians ipython >= 0.13.
> 
> What concrete problems should I expect here?
> 
> And do you have a feeling how much work it would be to push the source
> to 0.13 compatibility?
> 
> Best regards
> 
> Ole
> 

that depends on what the code does.
It will likely be a quite a bit of work. It seems to be using the
parallel processing facilities and the shell embedding.
Both have changed radically since 0.10
see
http://wiki.ipython.org/Cookbook/Updating_code_that_uses_IPython_for_0.11
for some migration hints.



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Bug#688107; Package wnpp. (Wed, 14 Aug 2013 07:39:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: gurkan <gurkan@phys.ethz.ch>
To: 688107@bugs.debian.org
Subject: ITP: casa -- The Common Astronomy Software Applications package
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 09:22:52 +0200
Is there already any packages that can be tested?

Gurkan



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From: Ole Streicher <debian@liska.ath.cx>
To: gurkan <gurkan@phys.ethz.ch>, 688107@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#688107: ITP: casa -- The Common Astronomy Software Applications package
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2013 11:36:27 +0200
Am 14.08.2013 09:22, schrieb gurkan:
> Is there already any packages that can be tested?

Sorry -- no. I paused my efforts due to some reasons:

* the ipython version problem discussed above
* the unclear relation of casacore and casa (I want to have a structured
approach and do not want to include a special version of casacore)
* I decided that I would not need casa for myself yet

I already packaged the "casacore" [1] package, the code is in git [2]
and on launchpad [3]. This is a quite good shape; however without a real
use (f.e. in CASA) I see no reason to upload it. It however could be
used as a start.

If you want to take over, or help on the packaging, you are welcome :-)

Best regards

Ole

[1] http://bugs.debian.org/686924
[2] http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=debian-science/packages/casacore.git
[3] https://launchpad.net/~olebole/+archive/astro-raring/+packages



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Message #37 received at 688107@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ole Streicher <debian@liska.ath.cx>
To: 688107@bugs.debian.org, 686924@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Fwd: Re: Packaging CASA RPM's
Date: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 19:42:16 +0200
-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Betreff: Re: Packaging CASA RPM's
Datum: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 11:11:02 -0600
Von: Scott Rankin <srankin@nrao.edu>
An: Joseph Wang <joequant@gmail.com>
Kopie (CC): Pierre-Malo DeniƩlou <pierre-malo.denielou@rhul.ac.uk>,
   Sergio Pascual <sergiopr@fedoraproject.org>,        Ole Streicher
<debian-devel@liska.ath.cx>,        Anne Nicolas <ennael1@gmail.com>,
     astronomy <astronomy@lists.fedoraproject.org>

Joseph,

Thank you for contacting me.  I apologize for taking so long to respond.
 Work pushed your message far down my e-mail queue.

Thank you for offering to assist with packaging CASA for Mageia, Fedora,
and Debian.  I would be very happy to have help.  However, CASA has
unique, inflexible requirements.

1. Users must be able to install several versions of CASA with any
mixture of major,minor versions on a system at the same time.

Some CASA algorithms are experimental, and some users must reduce their
data with different versions of CASA to provide feedback to CASA developers.

This requirement is at odds with Linux conventions, which generally only
support one copy of the same major version of a package installed.

2. We publish stable packages monthly and release packages every 6 months.

This is a faster rate of change than many Linux distributions can
absorb.  This may not be an issue if you are maintaining separate
package repositories.

3. In some cases, we must use non-standard versions of packages already
included in distributions because the version included in the
distribution is either too different from the versions used on other
distributions, or has bugs we can't afford to work around.

4. CASA packages must be self contained (as much as is practical) to
prevent changes in 3rd party code from changing its behavior.


Because of these requirements, which we do not yet meet on either RHEL
or OS X, we are planning major changes to our packaging and distribution
system to package CASA and any non-standard libraries we need for
installation in /opt/casa/.

These requirements may make CASA packages we produce unacceptable as
standard packages from many Linux distributions.


If this does not put you off, I'll be happy to discuss this further, so
long as this does not take time away from my primary assignments.

Thanks again for taking the time to contact me.

Have a good one.

On Aug 3, 2013, at 9:21 PM, Joseph Wang <joequant@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Scott,
> 
> I was looking online and noticed that you were packaging CASA rpms for NRAO
> on redhat.
> 
> A group of us are currently trying to get astronomy packages working on 
> Mageia, Fedora, and Debian, and we were wondering how far you've gotten and
> what support might be useful to you.
> 
> The project that I'm working on is to get as many astronomy packages into
> the official distribution of Mageia 4.  Having astronomy packages supported as
> a main part of the distribution rather than as a third party maintained add on
> has lots of advantages.  If you have Redhat src.rpms built, I can see that the
> major CASA packages make it into Mageia 4 which is going into alpha now
> and should come out early next year.

--
Scott Rankin <srankin@nrao.edu>
Release Engineer, CASA
National Radio Astronomy Observatory









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Message #42 received at 688107-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ole Streicher <debian@liska.ath.cx>
To: 688107-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Closing old ITP
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 16:59:58 +0100
Closing this to make it easier for a newcomer to take over...



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