Debian Bug report logs - #677864
compiz 0.8 should not release with wheezy

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Package: src:compiz; Maintainer for src:compiz is Debian X Strike Force <debian-x@lists.debian.org>;

Reported by: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 10:57:02 UTC

Severity: serious

Found in version compiz/0.8.4-5.2

Fixed in version 0.8.4-5.2+rm

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From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: compiz 0.8 should not release with wheezy
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 12:54:38 +0200
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Source: compiz
Version: 0.8.4-5.2
Severity: serious

I don't think the current compiz package is in a fit state to be
released with wheezy.  It badly needs love.

Cheers,
Julien
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Bug#677864; Package src:compiz. (Sun, 24 Jun 2012 07:33:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Alex Goebel <alex.goebel@gmail.com>
To: 677864@bugs.debian.org
Subject: srsly?
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 00:28:40 -0700
Are we really sure it's a service to debian users or debian as a 
distribution to simply remove compiz from wheezy based on a number of 
minor(?) issues that are so obscure that they needed a fake RC bug?




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From: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>
To: 677864@bugs.debian.org
Subject: compiz works just fine
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 02:49:51 +0200
Could you please elaborate what exactly is the problem with compiz 0.8?
It works well; I use it at home (currently with xfce) and the only problem is
remembered window positions being wrong on startup.

At least the situation is worlds better than the current state of certain
other window managers that are somehow made default.

So I don't think there is a reason for this artificial RC bug, just because
a newer but messy upstream version exists.

I agree with Alex Goebel: compiz in its current state is fully releaseable,
even if it's not at the bleeding edge.




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From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>
To: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>, 677864@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#677864: compiz works just fine
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 12:27:30 +0200
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On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 02:49:51 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:

> Could you please elaborate what exactly is the problem with compiz 0.8?

The lack of a maintainer.  If you're willing to sign up for that for the
lifetime of wheezy then I might consider allowing it back into wheezy.

Cheers,
Julien
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From: Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez <clopez@igalia.com>
To: 677864@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: compiz works just fine
Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 03:31:50 +0200
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On 12/07/12 02:49, Adam Borowski wrote:
> Could you please elaborate what exactly is the problem with compiz 0.8?
> It works well; I use it at home (currently with xfce) and the only problem is
> remembered window positions being wrong on startup.
> 
> At least the situation is worlds better than the current state of certain
> other window managers that are somehow made default.
> 
Agree.

I am running compiz with gnome3 fallback mode from time ago and it works
like a charm.


> So I don't think there is a reason for this artificial RC bug, just because
> a newer but messy upstream version exists.
> 
> I agree with Alex Goebel: compiz in its current state is fully releaseable,
> even if it's not at the bleeding edge.
> 
+1

Based on my own experience, I can say that the current version of Compiz
on Debian wheezy (0.8.4) is rock solid and more than adequate for a release.

I even think is much more safe to ship this fully tested version of
Compiz rather than a new one (0.9.x) that may introduce bugs.

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From: Ztatik Light <ztatik.light@gmail.com>
To: 677864@bugs.debian.org
Subject: wat ?
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 07:41:44 -0500
moar compiz pl0x



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From: Piotr Szydełko <pszydelko@gmail.com>
To: 677864@bugs.debian.org
Subject: alternative?
Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 09:21:00 +0200
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For a time being I'm using the last version that was available but I would
like to know what will happen when I install new instance of wheezy? Will
there be a window manager that supports compositing?
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From: Nishant Agrwal <nishantagrwal12993@gmail.com>
To: 677864@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Mutter?
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 00:33:24 +0530
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I think mutter is a compositing WM, although not as configurable as Compiz.
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From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>
To: Piotr SzydeÅ?ko <pszydelko@gmail.com>, 677864@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#677864: alternative?
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 18:38:47 +0200
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On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 09:21:00 +0200, Piotr Szydełko wrote:

> For a time being I'm using the last version that was available but I would
> like to know what will happen when I install new instance of wheezy? Will
> there be a window manager that supports compositing?

gnome and kde both have window managers that support compositing.
There's probably others.

Cheers,
Julien
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From: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>
To: 677864@bugs.debian.org, Piotr Szydełko <pszydelko@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Bug#677864: alternative?
Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2012 19:31:25 +0200
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 06:38:47PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 09:21:00 +0200, Piotr Szydełko wrote:
> 
> > For a time being I'm using the last version that was available but I would
> > like to know what will happen when I install new instance of wheezy? Will
> > there be a window manager that supports compositing?
> 
> gnome and kde both have window managers that support compositing.
> There's probably others.

Neither of those support even a decent fraction of compiz' features, both
for those who want eyecandy, and those like me who want features like
instant zoom, making arbitrary windows partially transparent, colour
filters, etc.

This said, I realized that no one I know uses compiz without at least some
parts not included in Debian, and even though it works well after some
tinkering, the need for such tinkering is not something a new user would
expect from Debian.  Thus, the extent of polishing needed exceeds what would
be acceptable at this time of the freeze.

Also, no one stepped up to do this.  I for one can submit a FTBFS fix here
and a random patch there, but don't know window manager interactions well
enough to take a major part of responsibility.  There's hope guys who want
Unity will need to handle the upgrade to Compiz 9.* as it's an Unity's
dependency even if it can still work with XFCE or MATE, but considering that
nothing really moved in ages, I wouldn't hold my breath.

So in other words: let's return here after Wheezy :(


Meow!
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from the very start they were legalized bribes to give the king some income
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From: Nishant Agrwal <nishantagrwal12993@gmail.com>
To: 677864@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Mutter?
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2012 23:38:47 +0530
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Metacity is also capable of compositing.
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Cc: compiz@packages.debian.org, compiz@packages.qa.debian.org
Subject: Bug#719870: Removed package(s) from unstable
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 13:46:15 +0000
Version: 0.8.4-5.2+rm

Dear submitter,

as the package compiz has just been removed from the Debian archive
unstable we hereby close the associated bug reports.  We are sorry
that we couldn't deal with your issue properly.

For details on the removal, please see http://bugs.debian.org/719870

The version of this package that was in Debian prior to this removal
can still be found using http://snapshot.debian.org/.

This message was generated automatically; if you believe that there is
a problem with it please contact the archive administrators by mailing
ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Ansgar Burchardt (the ftpmaster behind the curtain)



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