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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: Please hide the menu entry

Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 12:18:14 +0200

Package: imagemagick
Version: 8:6.7.7.2-1
Severity: important
File: /usr/share/applications/display.im6.desktop

Hi,

the latest upload of imagemagick added a .desktop file for the display
utility. GNOME already has an integrated image viewer, so making it show
up in the menu is a bit confusion. It also has a low resolution icon
which looks really bad in gnome-shell (see attached screenshot).
What's worse, when clicking on the menu icon, nothing happens.
It seems to be only useful in the context menu of a file manager, i.e.
when it is passed a image file.

Please consider adding "NotShowIn=GNOME;" to the .desktop file so it won't
show up at all in GNOME, or at least add a "NoDisplay=true". This way it
doesn't show up in the menus but can still be started via the file
association in the file manager.

Michael



-- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (200, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.utf8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages imagemagick depends on:
ii  libbz2-1.0      1.0.6-1
ii  libc6           2.13-32
ii  libfontconfig1  2.9.0-6
ii  libfreetype6    2.4.9-1
ii  libglib2.0-0    2.32.3-1
ii  libgomp1        4.7.0-11
ii  libice6         2:1.0.8-2
ii  libjpeg8        8d-1
ii  liblcms2-2      2.2+git20110628-2.2
ii  liblqr-1-0      0.4.1-1.1
ii  libltdl7        2.4.2-1
ii  liblzma5        5.1.1alpha+20110809-3
ii  libmagickcore5  8:6.7.7.2-1
ii  libmagickwand5  8:6.7.7.2-1
ii  libsm6          2:1.2.1-2
ii  libtiff4        3.9.6-5
ii  libx11-6        2:1.4.99.901-2
ii  libxext6        2:1.3.1-2
ii  libxt6          1:1.1.3-1
ii  zlib1g          1:1.2.7.dfsg-11

Versions of packages imagemagick recommends:
ii  ghostscript           9.05~dfsg-6
ii  libmagickcore5-extra  8:6.7.7.2-1
ii  netpbm                2:10.0-15+b1
ii  ufraw-batch           0.18-1.1+b2

Versions of packages imagemagick suggests:
ii  autotrace                            <none>
ii  cups-bsd [lpr]                       1.5.3-1
ii  curl                                 7.26.0-1
ii  enscript                             <none>
ii  ffmpeg                               <none>
ii  gimp                                 2.8.0-2
ii  gnuplot                              4.6.0-8
ii  grads                                <none>
ii  groff-base                           1.21-7
ii  hp2xx                                <none>
ii  html2ps                              <none>
ii  imagemagick-doc                      <none>
ii  libwmf-bin                           0.2.8.4-10
ii  mplayer                              <none>
ii  povray                               <none>
ii  radiance                             <none>
ii  sane-utils                           1.0.22-7.1
ii  texlive-binaries [texlive-base-bin]  2012.20120530-2
ii  transfig                             <none>
ii  xdg-utils                            1.1.0~rc1+git20111210-6

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Message #10 received at 675453@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

To: 675453@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#675453: Acknowledgement (Please hide the menu entry)

Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:01:05 +0200

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Message #15 received at 675453@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: roucaries bastien <roucaries.bastien+debian@gmail.com>

To: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>, 675453@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Pkg-gmagick-im-team] Bug#675453: Please hide the menu entry

Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 17:42:07 +0200

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> wrote:
> Package: imagemagick
> Version: 8:6.7.7.2-1
> Severity: important
> File: /usr/share/applications/display.im6.desktop
>
> Hi,
>
> the latest upload of imagemagick added a .desktop file for the display
> utility. GNOME already has an integrated image viewer, so making it show
> up in the menu is a bit confusion. It also has a low resolution icon
> which looks really bad in gnome-shell (see attached screenshot).
> What's worse, when clicking on the menu icon, nothing happens.
> It seems to be only useful in the context menu of a file manager, i.e.
> when it is passed a image file.
>
> Please consider adding "NotShowIn=GNOME;" to the .desktop file so it won't
> show up at all in GNOME, or at least add a "NoDisplay=true". This way it
> doesn't show up in the menus but can still be started via the file
> association in the file manager.
>
> Michael

No it should work but it does not.
try on the console:
/usr/bin/display.im6
you will see display

the problem is different, in fact imagemagick read if you do not
specify stdin, and from menu entry stdin is /dev/null, therefore it
close immediatly.

Now if you are on console it use isatty before opening tty.

Thus we need to create a wrapper and use it on the deskop file:

something like this:

#!/bin/sh
if [ $# -ge 1 ]; then
    /usr/bin/display.im6  "$@"
else
  /usr/bin/display.im6  magick:logo
fi

thanks for the bug report.
>
>
> -- System Information:
> Debian Release: wheezy/sid
>  APT prefers unstable
>  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (200, 'experimental')
> Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
>
> Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
> Locale: LANG=de_DE.utf8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8)
> Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
>
> Versions of packages imagemagick depends on:
> ii  libbz2-1.0      1.0.6-1
> ii  libc6           2.13-32
> ii  libfontconfig1  2.9.0-6
> ii  libfreetype6    2.4.9-1
> ii  libglib2.0-0    2.32.3-1
> ii  libgomp1        4.7.0-11
> ii  libice6         2:1.0.8-2
> ii  libjpeg8        8d-1
> ii  liblcms2-2      2.2+git20110628-2.2
> ii  liblqr-1-0      0.4.1-1.1
> ii  libltdl7        2.4.2-1
> ii  liblzma5        5.1.1alpha+20110809-3
> ii  libmagickcore5  8:6.7.7.2-1
> ii  libmagickwand5  8:6.7.7.2-1
> ii  libsm6          2:1.2.1-2
> ii  libtiff4        3.9.6-5
> ii  libx11-6        2:1.4.99.901-2
> ii  libxext6        2:1.3.1-2
> ii  libxt6          1:1.1.3-1
> ii  zlib1g          1:1.2.7.dfsg-11
>
> Versions of packages imagemagick recommends:
> ii  ghostscript           9.05~dfsg-6
> ii  libmagickcore5-extra  8:6.7.7.2-1
> ii  netpbm                2:10.0-15+b1
> ii  ufraw-batch           0.18-1.1+b2
>
> Versions of packages imagemagick suggests:
> ii  autotrace                            <none>
> ii  cups-bsd [lpr]                       1.5.3-1
> ii  curl                                 7.26.0-1
> ii  enscript                             <none>
> ii  ffmpeg                               <none>
> ii  gimp                                 2.8.0-2
> ii  gnuplot                              4.6.0-8
> ii  grads                                <none>
> ii  groff-base                           1.21-7
> ii  hp2xx                                <none>
> ii  html2ps                              <none>
> ii  imagemagick-doc                      <none>
> ii  libwmf-bin                           0.2.8.4-10
> ii  mplayer                              <none>
> ii  povray                               <none>
> ii  radiance                             <none>
> ii  sane-utils                           1.0.22-7.1
> ii  texlive-binaries [texlive-base-bin]  2012.20120530-2
> ii  transfig                             <none>
> ii  xdg-utils                            1.1.0~rc1+git20111210-6
>
> -- no debconf information
>
>
>
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Message #20 received at 675453@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

To: roucaries bastien <roucaries.bastien+debian@gmail.com>

Cc: 675453@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Pkg-gmagick-im-team] Bug#675453: Please hide the menu entry

Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 18:02:10 +0200

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On 01.06.2012 17:42, roucaries bastien wrote:

> Thus we need to create a wrapper and use it on the deskop file:

Please consider adding NotShowIn=GNOME; then. We don't want it to show
up in the GNOME menu.

Thanks,
Michael

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Message #25 received at 675453@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: roucaries bastien <roucaries.bastien+debian@gmail.com>

To: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

Cc: 675453@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Pkg-gmagick-im-team] Bug#675453: Please hide the menu entry

Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 15:31:58 +0200

On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> wrote:
> On 01.06.2012 17:42, roucaries bastien wrote:
>
>> Thus we need to create a wrapper and use it on the deskop file:
>
> Please consider adding NotShowIn=GNOME; then. We don't want it to show
> up in the GNOME menu.

Sorry why ? Why do you not want to show display that is a
imagemanipulation program on gnome menu ?

Thanks

Bastien

> Thanks,
> Michael
>
> --
> Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the
> universe are pointed away from Earth?
>

Message #30 received at 675453@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

To: roucaries bastien <roucaries.bastien+debian@gmail.com>

Cc: 675453@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Pkg-gmagick-im-team] Bug#675453: Please hide the menu entry

Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 15:37:26 +0200

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On 02.06.2012 15:31, roucaries bastien wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> wrote:
>> On 01.06.2012 17:42, roucaries bastien wrote:
>>
>>> Thus we need to create a wrapper and use it on the deskop file:
>>
>> Please consider adding NotShowIn=GNOME; then. We don't want it to show
>> up in the GNOME menu.
> 
> Sorry why ? Why do you not want to show display that is a
> imagemanipulation program on gnome menu ?

The "gnome" meta package  installs inkscape, which has a recommends:
imagemagick. This means imagemagick will be installed in a default GNOME
installation.
display.im6 overlaps with the functionality which is already provided by
eog, which is GNOME's integrated image viewer.
Plus, the icon of display.im6 looks ugly and it clutters the default menu.

Michael
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Message #35 received at 675453@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: roucaries bastien <roucaries.bastien+debian@gmail.com>

To: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

Cc: 675453@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Pkg-gmagick-im-team] Bug#675453: Please hide the menu entry

Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 15:43:28 +0200

n Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 3:37 PM, Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> wrote:
> On 02.06.2012 15:31, roucaries bastien wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> wrote:
>>> On 01.06.2012 17:42, roucaries bastien wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thus we need to create a wrapper and use it on the deskop file:
>>>
>>> Please consider adding NotShowIn=GNOME; then. We don't want it to show
>>> up in the GNOME menu.
>>
>> Sorry why ? Why do you not want to show display that is a
>> imagemanipulation program on gnome menu ?
>
> The "gnome" meta package  installs inkscape, which has a recommends:
> imagemagick. This means imagemagick will be installed in a default GNOME
> installation.

1. Yes for sure, but out of topic I think.

> display.im6 overlaps with the functionality which is already provided by
> eog, which is GNOME's integrated image viewer.

2. Yes and no, it a question of policy. BTW why do not ask to remove
GIMP for gnome menu ? I will remove imagemagick when you will remove
GIMP*

> Plus, the icon of display.im6 looks ugly and it clutters the default menu.

Yes, point taken next upload will add a svg icon (see #675484).

Bastien

* I am joking here but it is only to show you that your logic is at
least flawed here. In my day jobs it is call a counterexample, and
really useful to kill long mathematical development.

> Michael
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>

Message #40 received at 675453@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

To: roucaries bastien <roucaries.bastien+debian@gmail.com>

Cc: 675453@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Pkg-gmagick-im-team] Bug#675453: Please hide the menu entry

Date: Sat, 02 Jun 2012 15:44:19 +0200

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On 02.06.2012 15:37, Michael Biebl wrote:

> The "gnome" meta package  installs inkscape, which has a recommends:
> imagemagick. This means imagemagick will be installed in a default GNOME
> installation.
> display.im6 overlaps with the functionality which is already provided by
> eog, which is GNOME's integrated image viewer.
> Plus, the icon of display.im6 looks ugly and it clutters the default menu.

We basically try to install and present a single tool for each job in a
default GNOME installation. This one tool should be integrated as good
as possible into GNOME and follow the GNOME HIG. display.im6 looks
really alien with it's custom X toolkit, missing Font Antialiasing, and
completely different interface behaviour.


Hope that explains it.

Michael


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Message #45 received at 675453@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: roucaries bastien <roucaries.bastien+debian@gmail.com>

To: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

Cc: 675453@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Pkg-gmagick-im-team] Bug#675453: Please hide the menu entry

Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 16:25:03 +0200

clone 675453 -1
retitle 675453 Menu entry of imagemagick does not lauch it
severity -1 wishlist
thanks

On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 3:44 PM, Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org> wrote:
> On 02.06.2012 15:37, Michael Biebl wrote:
>
>> The "gnome" meta package  installs inkscape, which has a recommends:
>> imagemagick. This means imagemagick will be installed in a default GNOME
>> installation.
>> display.im6 overlaps with the functionality which is already provided by
>> eog, which is GNOME's integrated image viewer.
>> Plus, the icon of display.im6 looks ugly and it clutters the default menu.
>
> We basically try to install and present a single tool for each job in a
> default GNOME installation. This one tool should be integrated as good
> as possible into GNOME and follow the GNOME HIG. display.im6 looks
> really alien with it's custom X toolkit, missing Font Antialiasing, and
> completely different interface behaviour.

I strongly diagree, for this. For instance under new gnome menu, I
could not find xfig and I should run it from console or from alt+F2.
And inkscape is not feature comparable with xfig....

Best will be to have this legacy but neithertheless useful apps under
a subdirectory of graphics menu

So i am cloning this bug report, in two parts:
1. imagemagick menu does not work
2. this bug report.

And I am believe I will tag wontfix this bug report or block by the
sugestion above at your wish.

Bastien

>
>
> Hope that explains it.
>
> Michael
>
>
> --
> Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the
> universe are pointed away from Earth?
>

Message #60 received at 675617@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jeremy Bicha <jbicha@ubuntu.com>

To: 675617@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>

Subject: Re: [Pkg-gmagick-im-team] Bug#675617: Please hide the menu entry

Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2017 10:41:41 -0500

Could you please move /usr/bin/display* and /usr/share/applications/
to a separate binary package? You can have the existing packages
Suggest the new package.

imagemagick is generally installed for its command-line functionality
not for the 'display' app. Therefore, what's currently happening is
several desktops are blacklisting the display .desktop which means
that the display .desktop is not easily available for those who *do*
want it.

Thanks,
Jeremy Bicha

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