Debian Bug report logs - #675270
www.debian.org: ambiguous expression for debian-stable-announce@lists.debian.org in list page on website and Debian Project News

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: "AYANOKOUZI, Ryuunosuke" <i38w7i3@yahoo.co.jp>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: www.debian.org: ambiguous expression for debian-stable-announce@lists.debian.org in list page on website and Debian Project News

Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 06:16:44 +0900

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Package: www.debian.org
Severity: minor

Here I suggest to change the summary of
debian-stable-announce@lists.debian.org in list page on website and an
expression in Important Debian Security Advisories section on Debian
Project News.


1. Summary of debian-stable-announce@lists.debian.org on website


debian-stable-announce@lists.debian.org's list page on website [1]
summary says,

"Announcements of updates to stable
Updates to stable packages will be announced on this list."

Isn't this ambiguous? For non-native English speaker like Japanese, it
looks updates for stable section is announced on the list. But it is
not correct, isn't it?  For such purpose, people use
debian-security-announce@lists.debian.org [2]. Properly speaking,
updates for "stable-update section" is announced on
debian-stable-announce@lists.debian.org [3], isn't it?

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-stable-announce/
[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/
[3] http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#stable-updates

I know that debian-stable-announce@lists.debian.org list is successor
of debian-volatile-announce@lists.debian.org [4,5]. From this view
point, should the summary of debian-stable-announce@lists.debian.org
be like as shown bellow?

"Announcements for the stable-update section
Announcements relating to the stable-update section include new uploads and changes."

[4] http://lists.debian.org/debian-volatile-announce/2012/msg00000.html
[5] http://lists.debian.org/debian-volatile-announce/


2. Expression in Debian Project News (DPN)


Latest DPN saying in Important Debian Security Advisories section that
[6],

"If you need to be kept up to date about security advisories released
by the Debian Security Team, please subscribe to the security mailing
list (and the separate backports list, and stable updates list) for
announcements."

In this statement, "stable updates list" is linked to the page of
debian-stable-announce@lists.debian.org.

[6] http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2012/11/#dsa

"stable updates" means a "stable-update section". So, "stable update
list" should be "stable-update section's list". this is clearer
expression I think.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 6.0.5
  APT prefers stable
  APT policy: (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Regards,
AYANOKOUZI, Ryuunosuke
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AYANOKOUZI, Ryuunosuke <i38w7i3@yahoo.co.jp>

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Message #10 received at 675270@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: David Prévot <taffit@debian.org>

To: "AYANOKOUZI, Ryuunosuke" <i38w7i3@yahoo.co.jp>, 675270@bugs.debian.org

Cc: listadmin@sudeducation.org

Subject: Re: Bug#675270: www.debian.org: ambiguous expression for debian-stable-announce@lists.debian.org in list page on website and Debian Project News

Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 17:43:16 -0400

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reassign 675270 lists.debian.org
thanks

Forwarding the request where it belongs. For the DPN part of this
report, feel free to propose a patch to d-publicity.

Regards

David

Le 30/05/2012 17:16, AYANOKOUZI, Ryuunosuke a écrit :
> Package: www.debian.org
> Severity: minor
> 
> Here I suggest to change the summary of
> debian-stable-announce@lists.debian.org in list page on website and an
> expression in Important Debian Security Advisories section on Debian
> Project News.
> 
> 
> 1. Summary of debian-stable-announce@lists.debian.org on website
> 
> 
> debian-stable-announce@lists.debian.org's list page on website [1]
> summary says,
> 
> "Announcements of updates to stable
> Updates to stable packages will be announced on this list."
> 
> Isn't this ambiguous? For non-native English speaker like Japanese, it
> looks updates for stable section is announced on the list. But it is
> not correct, isn't it?  For such purpose, people use
> debian-security-announce@lists.debian.org [2]. Properly speaking,
> updates for "stable-update section" is announced on
> debian-stable-announce@lists.debian.org [3], isn't it?
> 
> [1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-stable-announce/
> [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/
> [3] http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-whats-new.en.html#stable-updates
> 
> I know that debian-stable-announce@lists.debian.org list is successor
> of debian-volatile-announce@lists.debian.org [4,5]. From this view
> point, should the summary of debian-stable-announce@lists.debian.org
> be like as shown bellow?
> 
> "Announcements for the stable-update section
> Announcements relating to the stable-update section include new uploads and changes."
> 
> [4] http://lists.debian.org/debian-volatile-announce/2012/msg00000.html
> [5] http://lists.debian.org/debian-volatile-announce/
> 
> 
> 2. Expression in Debian Project News (DPN)
> 
> 
> Latest DPN saying in Important Debian Security Advisories section that
> [6],
> 
> "If you need to be kept up to date about security advisories released
> by the Debian Security Team, please subscribe to the security mailing
> list (and the separate backports list, and stable updates list) for
> announcements."
> 
> In this statement, "stable updates list" is linked to the page of
> debian-stable-announce@lists.debian.org.
> 
> [6] http://www.debian.org/News/weekly/2012/11/#dsa
> 
> "stable updates" means a "stable-update section". So, "stable update
> list" should be "stable-update section's list". this is clearer
> expression I think.
> 
> -- System Information:
> Debian Release: 6.0.5
>   APT prefers stable
>   APT policy: (500, 'stable')
> Architecture: i386 (i686)
> 
> Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
> Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
> Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
> 
> Regards,
> AYANOKOUZI, Ryuunosuke
> --
> AYANOKOUZI, Ryuunosuke <i38w7i3@yahoo.co.jp>

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Message #19 received at 675270-submitter@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: cord@bendel.debian.org (Cord Beermann)

To: control@bugs.debian.org

Cc: 675270-submitter@bugs.debian.org

Subject: closing 675270

Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 09:52:41 +0000 (UTC)

close 675270 
thanks
-- 
Hi,

'ambiguous expression for debian-stable-announce@lists.debian.org in list page on website and Debian Project News'

I adopted your suggestions and it should roll out to the automatic generated pages in the next hours.

For debian-publicity please contact that team seperately (or provide a patch as has been asked for)

Yours,
        Cord, Debian Listmaster of the day
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