Debian Bug report logs - #666684
new output format -j

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Package: coreutils; Maintainer for coreutils is Michael Stone <>; Source for coreutils is src:coreutils.

Reported by: Joey Hess <>

Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 22:15:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: patch

Found in version coreutils/8.13-3.1

Done: Joey Hess <>

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From: Joey Hess <>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <>
Subject: new output format -j
Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2012 18:13:32 -0400
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Package: coreutils
Version: 8.13-3.1
Severity: normal
Tags: patch

Regular ls output, tuned as it was for 9600 baud terminals or so, is
really too verbose for modern media such as twitter and cell phones.
This new output format, enabled by the -j switch (or --format=jam, but
you don't want to type all that on a cell phone!), brings ls into
the 21st century with an appropriate level of conciseness.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-2-686-pae (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.utf8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages coreutils depends on:
ii  dpkg          1.16.2
ii  install-info  4.13a.dfsg.1-9
ii  libacl1       2.2.51-5
ii  libattr1      1:2.4.46-5
ii  libc6         2.13-27
ii  libselinux1   2.1.9-2

coreutils recommends no packages.

coreutils suggests no packages.

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Message #10 received at (full text, mbox):

From: Joey Hess <>
Cc: Bob Proulx <>
Subject: Re: Bug#666198: ls: add -y option
Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2012 14:32:20 -0400
Bob Proulx wrote:
> Joey Hess wrote:
> > This is needed for compatability with an early form of shar archive
> > posted to Usenet in the early 80's. There is valuable historical data
> > to be extracted from these, but they often seem to use this -y option
> > to ls that is not present in modern versions.
> This is an interesting compatibility feature.  As such I agree it has
> some merit although how much I don't know.  Put me down as officially
> abstaining from that point.  However:

This was a set up for

This article about COBOL
was edited to create a fairly convincing historical proof of a ls -y.
I think only fairly convincing because it's unclear why a shar would
ever need to ls files, even back in the 80's!

As to the other options, multiple people agree that -e is nearly almost
useful, although none of us can quite find a reason to use it. My bug
report neglected to mention that ls -eR is very buggy. -j is clearly a joke.

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