Debian Bug report logs - #666008
RFP: pogo -- Probably the simplest and fastest audio player for Linux

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Jendrik Seipp <jendrikseipp@web.de>

Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:42:05 UTC

Severity: wishlist

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From: Jendrik Seipp <jendrikseipp@web.de>
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
Subject: RFP: pogo -- Probably the simplest and fastest audio player for Linux
Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 21:19:55 +0200
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist

* Package name: pogo
  Version: 0.6
  Upstream Author: Jendrik Seipp <jendrikseipp@web.de>
* URL: http://launchpad.net/pogo
* License: GPL2+
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description: Probably the simplest and fastest audio player for Linux

Pogo plays your music. Nothing else. It is both fast and easy-to-use. 
The clear
interface uses the screen real-estate very efficiently. Other features 
include:
Fast search on the harddrive and in the playlist, smart album grouping, 
cover
display, desktop notifications and no music library.
Pogo is a fork of Decibel Audio Player and supports most common audio 
formats.
It is written in Python and uses GTK+ and gstreamer.




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From: Gergely Nagy <algernon@balabit.hu>
To: Jendrik Seipp <jendrikseipp@web.de>
Cc: 666008@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#666008: RFP: pogo -- Probably the simplest and fastest audio player for Linux
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 10:39:12 +0200
Jendrik Seipp <jendrikseipp@web.de> writes:

> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
>
> * Package name: pogo
>   Version: 0.6
>   Upstream Author: Jendrik Seipp <jendrikseipp@web.de>
> * URL: http://launchpad.net/pogo
> * License: GPL2+
>   Programming Lang: Python
>   Description: Probably the simplest and fastest audio player for Linux
>
> Pogo plays your music. Nothing else. It is both fast and
> easy-to-use. The clear
> interface uses the screen real-estate very efficiently. Other features
> include:
> Fast search on the harddrive and in the playlist, smart album
> grouping, cover
> display, desktop notifications and no music library.
> Pogo is a fork of Decibel Audio Player and supports most common audio
> formats.
> It is written in Python and uses GTK+ and gstreamer.

Pardon my ignorance, but how is a GTK+ player, that supports searching,
cover display and whatnot simpler and faster than gst123 ~/Music/* ?

What makes it faster than any other gstreamer-based audioplayer? Or
simpler than any of the other similar software? (Of which, we have
plenty of packaged already)

Based on the description, I found nothing that would make it more
interesting than some of the things we already have packaged. How is it
different from decibel audio player, of which pogo is a fork of?

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From: Jendrik Seipp <jendrikseipp@web.de>
To: Gergely Nagy <algernon@balabit.hu>
Cc: 666008@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#666008: RFP: pogo -- Probably the simplest and fastest audio player for Linux
Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 11:38:40 +0200
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Am 28.03.2012 10:39, schrieb Gergely Nagy:
> Pardon my ignorance, but how is a GTK+ player, that supports searching,
> cover display and whatnot simpler and faster than gst123 ~/Music/* ?
You're right, this comparison should be limited to players with 
graphical interfaces only.
>
> What makes it faster than any other gstreamer-based audioplayer? Or
> simpler than any of the other similar software? (Of which, we have
> plenty of packaged already)
Audio players normally play songs instantly, so comparing that time 
doesn't really make sense. What's important though is the startup time 
of the program. Decibel has been written with that in mind 
(http://decibel.silent-blade.org/index.php?n=Main.Benchmark) and Pogo 
has even improved a bit on that. You shouldn't take the tagline too 
seriously though, it is primarily a way to outline the primary goals 
(simplicity and speed) and get people to try out the program for 
themselves.
>
> Based on the description, I found nothing that would make it more
> interesting than some of the things we already have packaged. How is it
> different from decibel audio player, of which pogo is a fork of?
Decibel is already a fast and easy-to-use player, but Pogo takes that 
one step further: Among other features it uses less chrome so there's 
more space for the tracks, it features searching (on the harddrive and 
in the playlist) and groups tracks by album in the playlist to further 
save space. Actually pogo is the only player I know of, that let's you 
collapse and expand the playlist and move around albums with a single 
drag&drop motion.

You're right, there are thousands of audio players, I just found none to 
fit my needs excatly, so I went off to create another one. Decibel has 
proven to be an excellent foundation for this because of its modular code.

BTW: There's already an Ubuntu PPA for pogo. Potential packagers can 
find the packaging code at 
http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jendrikseipp/pogo/trunk/files/head:/debian/ 
<http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Ejendrikseipp/pogo/trunk/files/head:/debian/> 
.
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From: Emmanuel Kasper <emmanuel@libera.cc>
To: 666008@bugs.debian.org
Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2012 01:33:46 +0200
Hello Jendrik

I know there are already a lot of music player inside Debian but pogo is
the only one who satisfies by need for a folder/file based GUI music player.
Also this questions:
http://superuser.com/questions/326471/is-there-a-folder-only-based-music-player-for-linux
show some  interest for this kind of media players.

I would be happy to see Pogo packaged in Debian, if you have the
packaging already done in your ppa, could maybe submit a source package
in http://mentors.debian.net/ ?

Remember if you get Pogo packaged in the Debian archive, it will be
included automatically in all Debian derivatives and that includes Ubuntu.








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