Debian Bug report logs - #658909
RM: kolab-cyrus-imapd/2.2.13p1-0.3

Package: release.debian.org; Maintainer for release.debian.org is Debian Release Team <debian-release@lists.debian.org>;

Reported by: Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@debian.org>

Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2012 18:00:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: moreinfo

Done: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Debian Release Team <debian-release@lists.debian.org>:
Bug#658909; Package release.debian.org. (Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:00:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@debian.org>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: RM: kolab-cyrus-imapd/2.2.13p1-0.3
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:57:38 +0100
Package: release.debian.org
Severity: normal
User: release.debian.org@packages.debian.org
Usertags: rm

Please remove kolab-cyrus-imapd from testing. It should
be build from the standard Cyrus package for Wheezy
(#647221)

Cheers,
        Moritz




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Bug#658909; Package release.debian.org. (Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:42:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk>:
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From: "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk>
To: Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@debian.org>, 658909@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#658909: RM: kolab-cyrus-imapd/2.2.13p1-0.3
Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:38:28 +0000
tag 658909 + moreinfo
thanks

On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 18:57 +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> Please remove kolab-cyrus-imapd from testing.

Not quite so easy:

Checking reverse dependencies...
# Broken Depends:
kolabd: kolabd
libkolab-perl: libkolab-perl

> It should be build from the standard Cyrus package for Wheezy
> (#647221)

Is there any sign of that actually happening?

Regards,

Adam





Added tag(s) moreinfo. Request was from "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Mon, 06 Feb 2012 18:42:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Bug#658909; Package release.debian.org. (Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:00:17 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Moritz Mühlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org>:
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Message #17 received at 658909@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Moritz Mühlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org>
To: "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk>
Cc: 658909@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#658909: RM: kolab-cyrus-imapd/2.2.13p1-0.3
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:49:31 +0100
On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 06:38:28PM +0000, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> tag 658909 + moreinfo
> thanks
> 
> On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 18:57 +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> > Please remove kolab-cyrus-imapd from testing.
> 
> Not quite so easy:
> 
> Checking reverse dependencies...
> # Broken Depends:
> kolabd: kolabd
> libkolab-perl: libkolab-perl

They are as unmaintained as kolab-cyrus-imapd and virtually unused
in popcon. Let's just drop them along.
 
> > It should be build from the standard Cyrus package for Wheezy
> > (#647221)
> 
> Is there any sign of that actually happening?

No idea. But we must not let have such a code duplication mess
in Wheezy. Had I noticed that before the Squeeze release I would've
filed an RC bug before the release...

Cheers,
        Moritz





Reply sent to Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>:
You have taken responsibility. (Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:33:20 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Notification sent to Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@debian.org>:
Bug acknowledged by developer. (Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:33:20 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #22 received at 658909-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>
To: Moritz Mühlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org>, 658909-done@bugs.debian.org
Cc: "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Bug#658909: RM: kolab-cyrus-imapd/2.2.13p1-0.3
Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2012 22:31:25 +0100
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On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 20:49:31 +0100, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 06, 2012 at 06:38:28PM +0000, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> > tag 658909 + moreinfo
> > thanks
> > 
> > On Mon, 2012-02-06 at 18:57 +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote:
> > > Please remove kolab-cyrus-imapd from testing.
> > 
> > Not quite so easy:
> > 
> > Checking reverse dependencies...
> > # Broken Depends:
> > kolabd: kolabd
> > libkolab-perl: libkolab-perl
> 
> They are as unmaintained as kolab-cyrus-imapd and virtually unused
> in popcon. Let's just drop them along.
>  
rm hints added.

Cheers,
Julien
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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Debian Release Team <debian-release@lists.debian.org>:
Bug#658909; Package release.debian.org. (Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:39:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Mathieu Parent <math.parent@gmail.com>:
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Message #27 received at 658909@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Mathieu Parent <math.parent@gmail.com>
To: Moritz Mühlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org>
Cc: 658909@bugs.debian.org, Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>, Debian Kolab Maintainers <pkg-kolab-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Subject: Re: [pkg-kolab] kolabd REMOVED from testing
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 10:35:49 +0200
Hi,

Julien:
> rm hints added.

This is a bit rude (not your fault). AFAIK, we * haven't be notified
of this removal.

[*]: the pkg-kolab maintainers (no mention of it in #647221, for example)

Moritz:
> They are as unmaintained as kolab-cyrus-imapd and virtually unused
in popcon. Let's just drop them along.

How do you know that they are unmaitained? kolab-cyrus-imapd is in a
bad shape, but this primarly comes from its parent package
(cyrus-imapd-2.2, now removed from tesing/unstable). Others are in
good shape.

[...]
> > > It should be build from the standard Cyrus package for Wheezy
> > > (#647221)
> >
> > Is there any sign of that actually happening?
>
> No idea.

There is some work ongoing in SVN to make the kolabd package depend on
the standard cyrus-imapd (with important configuration changes). It is
not uploaded yet because of lack of time (mainly from me, only active
maintainer).

Removal from testing is probably the right thing to do, but *with
notice*. Kolab has had a previous late removal from testing (just
before lenny), which is sad and counter-productive.


Regards
-- 
Mathieu




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Bug#658909; Package release.debian.org. (Mon, 26 Mar 2012 17:09:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>:
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Message #32 received at 658909@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>
To: Mathieu Parent <math.parent@gmail.com>, 658909@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Moritz Mühlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org>, Debian Kolab Maintainers <pkg-kolab-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#658909: [pkg-kolab] kolabd REMOVED from testing
Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 19:07:22 +0200
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On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:35:49 +0200, Mathieu Parent wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Julien:
> > rm hints added.
> 
> This is a bit rude (not your fault). AFAIK, we * haven't be notified
> of this removal.
> 
> [*]: the pkg-kolab maintainers (no mention of it in #647221, for example)
> 
An open RC bug for months should be notification enough, sorry.

Cheers,
Julien
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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Debian Release Team <debian-release@lists.debian.org>:
Bug#658909; Package release.debian.org. (Sun, 08 Apr 2012 09:24:45 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Moritz Mühlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org>:
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Message #37 received at 658909@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Moritz Mühlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org>
To: Mathieu Parent <math.parent@gmail.com>
Cc: Moritz Mühlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org>, 658909@bugs.debian.org, Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>, Debian Kolab Maintainers <pkg-kolab-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Subject: Re: [pkg-kolab] kolabd REMOVED from testing
Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 11:23:25 +0200
On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:35:49AM +0200, Mathieu Parent wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Julien:
> > rm hints added.
> 
> This is a bit rude (not your fault). AFAIK, we * haven't be notified
> of this removal.
> 
> [*]: the pkg-kolab maintainers (no mention of it in #647221, for example)
> 
> Moritz:
> > They are as unmaintained as kolab-cyrus-imapd and virtually unused
> in popcon. Let's just drop them along.
> 
> How do you know that they are unmaitained? kolab-cyrus-imapd is in a
> bad shape, but this primarly comes from its parent package
> (cyrus-imapd-2.2, now removed from tesing/unstable). Others are in
> good shape.

You introduced a package, which forks a security-sensitive package
w/o telling the Security Team about it. If we had noticed this before
the Squeeze release, we would've filed an RC bug.

We've had three DSAs for cyrus-imapd-2.2 since the Squeeze release and
you never contacted us to help prepare updated packages etc.

Cheers,
        Moritz




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