Debian Bug report logs - #647616
RFP: yast2-devtools -- YaST2 - Development Tools

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Björn Esser <bjoern.esser@googlemail.com>

Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2011 15:21:01 UTC

Severity: wishlist

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#647616; Package wnpp. (Fri, 04 Nov 2011 15:21:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Björn Esser <bjoern.esser@googlemail.com>:
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From: Björn Esser <bjoern.esser@googlemail.com>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: RFP: yast2-devtools -- YaST2 - Development Tools
Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 16:15:43 +0100
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist


* Package name    : yast2-devtools
  Version         :  2.21.6
  Upstream Author : Martin Vidner <mvidner@suse.cz>
* URL             : http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:YaST_development
* License         : mostly GPL, parts of documentation: MIT/X
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description     : YaST2 - Development Tools
  Scripts and templates for developing YaST2 modules and components. Required
for rebuilding the existing YaST2 modules and components (both YCP and C++).




Changed Bug title to 'ITP: yast2-devtools -- YaST2 - Development Tools' from 'RFP: yast2-devtools -- YaST2 - Development Tools' Request was from Björn Esser <bjoern.esser@googlemail.com> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Fri, 04 Nov 2011 17:06:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org>
To: debian-mentors@lists.debian.org
Cc: 647616@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: RFS: yast2-devtools
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 11:42:10 +0100
Hi,

Björn Esser <bjoern.esser@googlemail.com> writes:
> I am looking for a sponsor for my package "yast2-devtools".

I'm just curious: what is this used for? Isn't YaST only used by SuSE?

Regards,
Ansgar




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From: Björn Esser <bjoern.esser@googlemail.com>
To: 647616@bugs.debian.org
Subject: yast2-devtools
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2011 19:29:57 +0100
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Am 10.11.2011 12:08, schrieb Arno Töll:
> On 10.11.2011 11:42, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
>> I'm just curious: what is this used for? Isn't YaST only used by SuSE?

YaST was licensed under GPLv2 somewhen in 2004/2005. So it can be used
by anyone and inside any distri, although it is currently on used in
(open)SuSE, yet.

yast2-devtools is the central-pkg, which is need to compile the
YaST-core and to develop and/or compile the modules which add functions
or config-tools to YaST [1] [2].

Since the effort of a GSoC-project, which made libYUI (I'll talk on that
later) independent of zypper (pkg-management in SuSE) [3]. It would be a
piece of cake to have the basic YaST-components to be ported to debian.

The YasT-modules themselves need to be modded or redevlopped for debian,
like make them use debconf, aptitude, dpkg or other debian-native tools
instead of SuSE-native ones.

libYUI (Yast User Interface) is a nifty lib to develop UIs using
ncurses, gtk and qt. The special about it is you only need only one pice
of code to get your UI work without having to worry about your tools is
run from console, gnome, kde or somewhat else [4]. It was initially
designed to make YaST's UI independent from the user's environment.

So I think YaST would be a piece software, which could bring debian to
larger audience by giving a way to setup daemons or system-settings in
an easy way, even when you're just using a console-based (server-)system

> YaST has been liberated from its non-free origins a while ago. There
> even was an approach to introduce it to Debian once [1]. So, in theory
> you could run YaST on every distribution. Question remains whether you
> really want that, as YaST's messing in configuration files definitively
> breaks a random number of paragraphs in the Debian policy.

YaST itself isn't messing around in the confs. This is the problem of
SusE.config (which is called by several YaST-modules inside SusE).
SuSE.config is the more or less somewhat compound of debconf. So for
debian the modules need to be modded as stated above.

> That said, I do not know at all, what yast2-devtools is used/needed for,
> so I should perhaps shut up and let Björn answer.
>
>
> [1] http://yast4debian.alioth.debian.org/

[1]  http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:YaST_development

[2]  http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:YaST_tutorials_development_in_general

[3]  http://nbprashanth.wordpress.com/category/gsoc/

[4]
http://www.slideshare.net/hedgehogpainter/3-uis-for-the-price-of-one-code

I hope this gives a bit of information to this.

BR,

Björn.
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Bug#647616; Package wnpp. (Mon, 27 May 2013 14:17:39 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #24 received at 647616@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org>
To: 647616@bugs.debian.org
Cc: control@bugs.debian.org
Subject: yast2-devtools: changing back from ITP to RFP
Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 15:24:24 +0200
retitle 647616 RFP: yast2-devtools -- YaST2 - Development Tools
noowner 647616
tag 647616 - pending
thanks

Hi,

This is an automatic email to change the status of yast2-devtools back from ITP
(Intent to Package) to RFP (Request for Package), because this bug hasn't seen
any activity during the last 12 months.

If you are still interested in adopting yast2-devtools, please send a mail to
<control@bugs.debian.org> with:

 retitle 647616 ITP: yast2-devtools -- YaST2 - Development Tools
 owner 647616 !
 thanks

However, it is not recommended to keep ITP for a long time without acting on
the package, as it might cause other prospective maintainers to refrain from
packaging that software. It is also a good idea to document your progress on
this ITP from time to time, by mailing <647616@bugs.debian.org>.

Thank you for your interest in Debian,
-- 
Lucas, for the QA team <debian-qa@lists.debian.org>



Changed Bug title to 'RFP: yast2-devtools -- YaST2 - Development Tools' from 'ITP: yast2-devtools -- YaST2 - Development Tools' Request was from Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Mon, 27 May 2013 14:23:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Removed annotation that Bug was owned by Björn Esser <bjoern.esser@googlemail.com>. Request was from Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Mon, 27 May 2013 14:23:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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