Debian Bug report logs - #645103
ITP: aspsms-t -- aspsms-t is an open source /*GPL*/ jabber2sms transport written in perl // http://github.com/micressor/aspsms-t

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>

Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:51:03 UTC

Owned by: Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>

Severity: wishlist

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#645103; Package wnpp. (Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:51:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>:
New Bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to debian-devel@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org. (Wed, 12 Oct 2011 14:51:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: ITP: aspsms-t -- aspsms-t is an open source /*GPL*/ jabber2sms transport written in perl // http://github.com/micressor/aspsms-t
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:42:06 +0200
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>


* Package name    : aspsms-t
  Version         : 1.3.0
  Upstream Author : Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>
* URL             : http://github.com/micressor/aspsms-t
* License         : GPL-2
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description     : aspsms-t is a jabber/xmpp to sms transport

Which allows you to send sms messages over the jabber network through the
 gateway-system of aspsms.com.
 .
 A lot of networks are supported. Normal TextSMS messages usually costs 1
 aspsms Credit.
 .
 aspsms-t deliver very fast and will send you a jabber status message. A
 second message will receive,If your sms was successfully delivered to the
 mobile device.
 .
 * It supports simple text SMS with a maximum of 160 characters. If your message
   is >160 characters, aspsms-t will split it automatically in more than one
   part.
 * Support for Arabic and other oriental characters up to 87 characters each
   sms.
 * Delivery notification for each sms with a unique transaction number
 * It can set alphanumeric originator of every sms. This can be a mobile phone
   or a short text with a maximum of 11 characters.




Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org, Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>:
Bug#645103; Package wnpp. (Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:18:09 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to wnpp@debian.org, Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>. (Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:18:09 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #10 received at 645103@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: martin f krafft <madduck@debian.org>
To: Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>, 645103@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#645103: ITP: aspsms-t -- aspsms-t is an open source /*GPL*/ jabber2sms transport written in perl // http://github.com/micressor/aspsms-t
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:15:39 +0200
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also sprach Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name> [2011.10.12.1642 +0200]:
> Which allows you to send sms messages over the jabber network
> through the gateway-system of aspsms.com.

This is a non-free service. This means that the software will likely
have to go to contrib.

>  A lot of networks are supported. Normal TextSMS messages usually
>  costs 1 aspsms Credit.

That is not true. In fact, text messages to most big network
providers (Swisscom, Deutsche Telekom, Vodafone, Orange, O2, …)
usually cost between 1,5 and 3,0 credits, making them quite
expensive:

  http://aspsms.de/instruction/prices.asp#terminationfees

>  aspsms-t deliver very fast and will send you a jabber status message. A
>  second message will receive,If your sms was successfully delivered to the
>  mobile device.

… which will cost another 0,25 credits.

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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org, Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>:
Bug#645103; Package wnpp. (Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:27:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to 645103@bugs.debian.org:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to wnpp@debian.org, Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>. (Wed, 12 Oct 2011 15:27:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #15 received at 645103@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk>
To: Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>, 645103@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#645103: ITP: aspsms-t -- aspsms-t is an open source /*GPL*/ jabber2sms transport written in perl // http://github.com/micressor/aspsms-t
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 17:23:10 +0200
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On 11-10-12 at 04:42pm, Marco Balmer wrote:
>  gateway-system of aspsms.com.
>  .
>  A lot of networks are supported. Normal TextSMS messages usually costs 1
>  aspsms Credit.

If tied to aspsms.com, I believe it should be targeted contrib, not 
main.


Regards,

 - Jonas

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Bug#645103; Package wnpp. (Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:24:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>:
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Message #20 received at 645103@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>
To: 645103@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#645103: ITP: aspsms-t -- aspsms-t is an open source /*GPL*/ jabber2sms transport written in perl // http://github.com/micressor/aspsms-t
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 18:16:37 +0200
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On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 05:15:39PM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
> This is a non-free service. This means that the software will likely
> have to go to contrib.

aspsms-t uses completly free software and yes: It need an external service
to function. Still contrib?

>   http://aspsms.de/instruction/prices.asp#terminationfees
> >  aspsms-t deliver very fast and will send you a jabber status message. A
> >  second message will receive,If your sms was successfully delivered to the
> >  mobile device.
> 
> … which will cost another 0,25 credits.

aspsms-t uses the http interface of aspsms.com, which means: delivery
notification is free.

-Marco

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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org, Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>:
Bug#645103; Package wnpp. (Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:03:44 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to dod@debian.org:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to wnpp@debian.org, Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>. (Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:03:45 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #25 received at 645103@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dominique Dumont <dod@debian.org>
To: Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>, 645103@bugs.debian.org
Cc: debian-perl@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: RFS: aspsms-t (try 4)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:51:27 +0100
On Sunday 05 February 2012 13:26:58 Marco Balmer wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 04, 2012 at 07:21:07PM +0100, Dominique Dumont wrote:
> > What is the origin of the xml files ? (especially the 9409 boring lines
> > long etc/fees.xml)
> 
> List of supported networks:
> http://xml1.aspsms.com:5061/opinfo/networks.xml
> 
> List of networks with termination fees:
> http://xml1.aspsms.com:5061/opinfo/fees.xml
> 
> man ./blib/man3/ASPSMS\:\:GetNetworksFees.3pm
> 
> That will automatically downloaded by aspsms-t every week. So I should not
> deliver it with the source package?

You're missing the point. 

The URL you mention show that these files are aspsms.com properties.

What gives you the right to:
- download these files ?
- use these files in your program ?
- re-distribute these files ?

Unless these question are answered in a verifiable way, your package cannot be 
uploaded in Debian (even in contrib)

All the best

Dominique
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Bug#645103; Package wnpp. (Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:21:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to wnpp@debian.org. (Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:21:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #30 received at 645103@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>
To: dod@debian.org, 645103@bugs.debian.org
Cc: debian-perl@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#645103: RFS: aspsms-t (try 4)
Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2012 12:15:03 +0100
Hi Dominique,

On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 02:51:27PM +0100, Dominique Dumont wrote:
> You're missing the point. 
> The URL you mention show that these files are aspsms.com properties.
> What gives you the right to:
> - download these files ?
> - use these files in your program ?
> - re-distribute these files ?
> Unless these question are answered in a verifiable way, your package cannot be
> uploaded in Debian (even in contrib)

You're right. I am currently clarifying this with people of aspsms.com.
-Marco




Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#645103; Package wnpp. (Mon, 13 Feb 2012 09:09:18 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to wnpp@debian.org. (Mon, 13 Feb 2012 09:09:25 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #35 received at 645103@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Marco Balmer <marco@balmer.name>
To: dod@debian.org, 645103@bugs.debian.org
Cc: debian-perl@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#645103: RFS: aspsms-t (try 4)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 10:05:35 +0100
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Hi Dominique,

> What gives you the right to:
> - download these files ?
> - use these files in your program ?
> - re-distribute these files ?

According to people of aspsms.com, this [1] documentation (chapter 8) shold 
be enough to allow usage of fees.xml and networks.xml files.

[1] http://www.aspsms.com/xml/doc/xmlsvr191.pdf

If this does conflict with a policy of debian, let me know that I can handle this
issue with aspsms and find a solution.

--
Marco Balmer
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Added blocking bug(s) of 645103: 658835 Request was from Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Sun, 26 Feb 2012 21:33:10 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Added blocking bug(s) of 645103: 701870 Request was from Bart Martens <bartm@quantz.debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Thu, 28 Feb 2013 16:24:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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