Debian Bug report logs - #644767
RFP: tilemill -- map design studio

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: David Paleino <dapal@debian.org>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: ITP: tilemill -- map design studio

Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2011 23:48:35 +0200

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Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: David Paleino <dapal@debian.org>

* Package name    : tilemill
  Version         : 0.5.1.1
  Upstream Author : Mapbox <http://mapbox.com>
* URL             : http://mapbox.com/tilemill/
* License         : BSD-3
  Programming Lang: Javascript (NodeJS)
  Description     : map design studio

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From: Antony Gelberg <antony.gelberg@gmail.com>

To: 644767@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: ITP: tilemill -- map design studio

Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 17:00:20 +0200

Hi David,

Any progress on this ITP?

Antony

Message #15 received at 644767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: David Paleino <dapal@debian.org>

To: Antony Gelberg <antony.gelberg@gmail.com>

Cc: 644767@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#644767: ITP: tilemill -- map design studio

Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:40:12 +0100

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On Tue, 24 Jan 2012 17:00:20 +0200, Antony Gelberg wrote:

> Hi David,

Hello,

> Any progress on this ITP?

not really. I've uploaded a bunch of dependencies to Debian, but tilemill needs
to be ported to node-backbone 2.x (IIRC), and I haven't had the time to do it.
Also, not all "dependencies" (which would eventually be put in Recommends) are
packaged yet: I started a proposal to systematically package shapefiles in
Debian, so that the resultant "tilemill" package would become smaller.

So, in other words, it would need some more manpower && time to complete it.

I haven't pushed anything to any git repository in pkg-grass, because I'd like
to strip the original tarball a bit more (i.e. drop the embedded shapefiles,
read above)

In the meanwhile, if you really need it, I suggest you to "npm install tilemill"
-- I tried it a couple of times, and it worked ;) (yes, it's a cool software).

Thanks for your interest,
David

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From: David Paleino <dapal@debian.org>

To: 644767@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Status update

Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2012 22:05:24 +0200

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Status update.

Latest tilemill tarball needs more modules to be packaged, with respective
dependencies, namely:

* -- node-passport (already NEW)
|    |
|    \ -- node-pkginfo (missing licensing info, bug filed)
|
| -- node-passport-oauth
|    |
|    | -- node-pkginfo (see above)
|    \ -- node-oauth   (missing licensing info, bug filed)
|
\ -- node-topcube (uninvestigated yet)

node-passport was patched to be able to upload it without needing pkginfo.
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Message #27 received at 644767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk>

To: 644767@bugs.debian.org

Subject: patch away npm routines instead of depending on npm

Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 01:22:04 -0400

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Hi,

I noticed that the dependencies are almost satisfied by now.  Very 
exciting!

Your packaging at git.debian.org:/git/pkg-grass/tilemill declare a 
dependency on npm which I found odd and looking closely it seems the 
only use of npm is for checking if tilemill itself is up-to-date and 
allowing self-update and removal from within the application.  That will 
most likely fail due to the application not being installed with npm in 
the first place, and I recommend to at least dorp that dependency and 
better to also patch the code to not offer those npm-specific features.

 - Jonas

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Message #32 received at 644767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@debian.org>

To: 644767@bugs.debian.org

Subject: error in control file

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 20:43:40 -0400

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The following patch is required for the package to compile:

commit f6e8c08583573140b8bf0ddeeb6af90b839e3f06
Author: Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@koumbit.org>
Date:   Fri Aug 24 17:01:19 2012 -0400

    fix version syntax

diff --git a/debian/control b/debian/control
index 8708901..517a2eb 100644
--- a/debian/control
+++ b/debian/control
@@ -42,7 +42,7 @@ Depends:
  , node-sqlite3 (>= 2.0.16)
  , node-passport (>= 0.1)
  , node-passport-oauth (>= 0.1)
- , node-modestmaps #(>= 1.0)
+ , node-modestmaps (>= 1.0)
  , npm (>= 1.0)
  , node-semver (>= 1.0)
  , node-optimist (>= 0.1)

A.

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Message #37 received at 644767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Christopher Baines <cbaines8@gmail.com>

To: 644767@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Anything I can do to help?

Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 21:33:21 +0100

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I have begun using Tilemill recently, but I am currently using the
Ubuntu packages in a VM! I managed to build the current package from
git, with the above patch, and managed to install it, once I had build
modestmaps from git. But the package does not actually contain
Tilemill...

I would very much like to help out, as I want to see this in Debian,
what are the remaining issues?

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Message #42 received at 644767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ross Gammon <rossgammon@mail.dk>

To: 644767@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Update

Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 22:04:14 +0200

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I have just committed the patch provided by Antoine. This allows
tilemill to successfully build, but as the node-modestmaps in Debian
is only v0.21 and upstream are expecting at least 1.0.0-alpha,
tilemill is still not installable.
I have started to try and work out where David was up to, and looking
for sources for some more of the javascript in the assets directory.
A sort of a to-do list has been created based on this wnpp bug and
placed README.Debian because I will probably have to pick this up and
put it down depending on available time.
Cheers,
Ross
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Message #47 received at 644767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@anarcat.ath.cx>

To: Ross Gammon <rossgammon@mail.dk>, 644767@bugs.debian.org, 644767@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#644767: Update

Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 16:41:32 -0400

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Control: block -1 by 685834

On 2014-03-30 16:04:14, Ross Gammon wrote:
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> I have just committed the patch provided by Antoine.

Wait, committed where?

> This allows tilemill to successfully build, but as the node-modestmaps
> in Debian is only v0.21 and upstream are expecting at least
> 1.0.0-alpha, tilemill is still not installable.

Indeed, upstream now is at 3.3.5:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=685834

> I have started to try and work out where David was up to, and looking
> for sources for some more of the javascript in the assets directory.
> A sort of a to-do list has been created based on this wnpp bug and
> placed README.Debian because I will probably have to pick this up and
> put it down depending on available time.

Sweet, thanks. Seeing tilemill in jessie would be awesome.

A.
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Message #54 received at 644767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@anarcat.ath.cx>

To: Ross Gammon <rossgammon@mail.dk>, 644767@bugs.debian.org, 644767@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#644767: Update

Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 16:42:34 -0400

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On 2014-03-30 16:41:32, Antoine Beaupré wrote:
> On 2014-03-30 16:04:14, Ross Gammon wrote:
>> I have just committed the patch provided by Antoine.
>
> Wait, committed where?

Ah oups, nevermind - i just read Jonas' mail about the repo.

A.

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Message #59 received at 644767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@debian.org>

To: Ross Gammon <rossgammon@mail.dk>, 644767@bugs.debian.org, 644767@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#644767: Update

Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 18:01:26 -0400

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Control: block -1 by 725362

Some progress here: I have uploaded a new version of modestmaps (NMU
DELAYED/10), so that should be fixed shortly.

Then I found the next stumbling block: node-bones wasn't in jessie for
my test machine (#725362). I guess that won't be a problem until the
release however, and by then that bug will probably have been fixed (?).

I can also confirm what cbaines was saying earlier: the binary package
is actually empty right now.

$ dpkg -L tilemill
/.
/usr
/usr/share
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/tilemill
/usr/share/doc/tilemill/copyright
/usr/share/doc/tilemill/changelog.Debian.gz
/usr/share/doc/tilemill/README.Debian
/usr/share/doc/tilemill/README.md

It seems to me we should merge in the upstream Debian package, which
have their own PPA:

https://launchpad.net/~developmentseed/+archive/mapbox/+packages

Did anyone look at those previously?

A.

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Message #72 received at 644767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@debian.org>

To: 644767@bugs.debian.org, Ross Gammon <rossgammon@mail.dk>, 644767@bugs.debian.org, 644767@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#644767: Update

Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2014 19:59:07 -0400

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Sorry for the multiple emails...

Some more progress: I have been able to use upstream's .install file to
deploy a basic tilemill install. I have done my best to merge the two
packages here:

http://people.debian.org/~anarcat/tilemill.git

It still fails because it hasn't been ported to bones 2.x:

anarcat@marcos:tilemill*$ sudo   su -s /bin/sh -c 'HOME=/usr/share/mapbox NODEPATH=/usr/lib/nodejs:/usr/share/tilemill /usr/bin/nodejs /usr/share/tilemill/index.js --config=/etc/tilemill/tilemill.config' mapbox
[tilemill] Note: Unknown option "server" in config file.
[tilemill] Note: Unknown option "server" in config file.
[tilemill] Plugin [carto] loaded.
[tilemill] Plugin [editor] loaded.
[tilemill] Plugin [fonts] loaded.
[tilemill] Plugin [templates] loaded.
[tilemill]
[tilemill] TypeError: Cannot call method 'error' of undefined
[tilemill]     at server.initialize (/usr/share/tilemill/servers/OAuth.bones:45:10)
[tilemill]     at Server (/usr/lib/nodejs/bones/server/server.js:10:10)
[tilemill]     at new child (/usr/share/javascript/backbone/backbone.js:1392:34)
[tilemill]     at servers.Core.initialize (/usr/share/tilemill/servers/Core.bones:16:14)
[tilemill]     at Server (/usr/lib/nodejs/bones/server/server.js:10:10)
[tilemill]     at new child (/usr/share/javascript/backbone/backbone.js:1392:34)
[tilemill]     at command.initialize (/usr/share/tilemill/commands/core.bones:224:28)
[tilemill]     at null.<anonymous> (/usr/lib/nodejs/bones/server/command.js:8:14)
[tilemill]     at command.bootstrap (/usr/share/tilemill/commands/core.bones:219:5)
[tilemill]     at Command (/usr/lib/nodejs/bones/server/command.js:7:10)
[tilemill] Error: child process: "core" failed with code "8"
[tilemill] Error: child process: "tile" failed with code "143"
[tilemill] Closing child process: core (pid:7988)
[tilemill] Closing child process: tile (pid:7990)
Exiting [tilemill]

A workaround is to ship the older bones release as such:

sudo npm --prefix /usr/share/tilemill/ install bones@1.3.27

Now I was thinking of submitting a bug report upstream to mention this
problem, but it seems that the 1.3.x series is still
maintained. Furthermore, upstream *is* upstream for bones as well!
Besides, the package.json clearly states the dependency, so this problem
is specific to the debian package.. We would need to be able to install
both bones 1.x and 2.x alongside each other to fix this.

Although this is rather all silly because node-bones has no
reverse-dependencies and I suspect it was uploaded only for tilemill in
the first place. So I filed a bug for that, and now I have tilemill sort
of running.

So I noticed or filed a bunch of bugs that are blocking this:

 * 742347: node-jsdom: require("jsdom") does not work in nodejs: missing cssstyle module
 * 743151: node-jsdom: two more missing modules (htmlparser2 and nwmatcher)
 * 685834: NMU under way for modestmaps-js
 * 743148: node-tilelive-mapnik: borken symlink
 * 743152: nodes-bones doesn't ship the version required for tilemill
 * 725362: node-bones: present but uninstallable on architectures lacking nodejs

After all the workarounds mentionned in all those bugreports, I can fire
up the "server", which serves a UI at:

http://localhost:20009/

which... doesn't work at all! whee!

anarcat@marcos:tilemill*$ sudo   su -s /bin/sh -c 'HOME=/usr/share/mapbox NODEPATH=/usr/lib/nodejs:/usr/share/tilemill /usr/bin/nodejs /usr/share/tilemill/index.js --config=/etc/tilemill/tilemill.config' mapbox
[tilemill] Note: Unknown option "server" in config file.
[tilemill] Plugin [carto] loaded.
[tilemill] Plugin [editor] loaded.
[tilemill] Plugin [fonts] loaded.
[tilemill] Plugin [templates] loaded.
[tilemill] Started [Server Core:20009].
[tilemill] Note: Unknown option "server" in config file.
[tilemill] Started [Server Tile:20008].
[tilemill] Client Error: Uncaught TypeError: Cannot set property 'SEMVER_SPEC_VERSION' of undefined
[tilemill]     at http://localhost:20009/assets/tilemill/js/vendor.js:15801
[tilemill] Checking for new version of TileMill...
[tilemill] npm
[tilemill]
[tilemill] http
[tilemill]
[tilemill] GET
[tilemill]  https://registry.npmjs.org/tilemill
[tilemill] Client Error: Uncaught TypeError: Object [object Date] has no method 'format'
[tilemill]     at http://localhost:20009/assets/bones/all.js:6999
[tilemill] npm
[tilemill]  http 304 https://registry.npmjs.org/tilemill
[tilemill] Latest version of TileMill is 0.10.1.
[tilemill] Client Error: Uncaught ReferenceError: semver is not defined
[tilemill]     at http://localhost:20009/assets/bones/all.js:2263

The UI somewhat loads, but is unresponsive except the user manuel, which
doesn't render markdown properly.

At this point, I give up: there's something clearly wrong with the
install, but I have no clue where to start fixing this. vendor.js seems
a concatenation of a pile of javascript dung, of which i can't even find
the ondisk copy.

So here we go, progress, but still work to do to make the thing work.

A.

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Message #77 received at 644767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ross Gammon <rossgammon@mail.dk>

To: Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@debian.org>, 644767@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#644767: Update

Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 09:35:41 +0200

On 03/31/2014 12:01 AM, Antoine Beaupré wrote:
> Control: block -1 by 725362
> 
> Some progress here: I have uploaded a new version of modestmaps
> (NMU DELAYED/10), so that should be fixed shortly.
> 
Excellent. I had seen that Andrew Harvey had uploaded newer versions
on git.d.o (collab-maint), but assumed he had not had time to seek
sponsorship.

> Then I found the next stumbling block: node-bones wasn't in jessie
> for my test machine (#725362). I guess that won't be a problem
> until the release however, and by then that bug will probably have
> been fixed (?).

Yes I spotted that. Looks like some disagreements about how to deal
with the missing nodejs on all architectures might mean some delay here?
> 
> I can also confirm what cbaines was saying earlier: the binary
> package is actually empty right now.
> 
> $ dpkg -L tilemill /. /usr /usr/share /usr/share/doc 
> /usr/share/doc/tilemill /usr/share/doc/tilemill/copyright 
> /usr/share/doc/tilemill/changelog.Debian.gz 
> /usr/share/doc/tilemill/README.Debian 
> /usr/share/doc/tilemill/README.md
> 
> It seems to me we should merge in the upstream Debian package,
> which have their own PPA:
> 
> https://launchpad.net/~developmentseed/+archive/mapbox/+packages
> 
> Did anyone look at those previously?
> 
I have not studied their packaging yet, but I have installed the
package on my Ubuntu desktop and it works great :-)
> A.
> 
Ross

Message #82 received at 644767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@debian.org>

To: Ross Gammon <rossgammon@mail.dk>, 644767@bugs.debian.org, 644767@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#644767: Update

Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 09:29:39 -0400

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On 2014-03-31 03:35:41, Ross Gammon wrote:
> On 03/31/2014 12:01 AM, Antoine Beaupré wrote:

[...]

>> Then I found the next stumbling block: node-bones wasn't in jessie
>> for my test machine (#725362). I guess that won't be a problem
>> until the release however, and by then that bug will probably have
>> been fixed (?).
>
> Yes I spotted that. Looks like some disagreements about how to deal
> with the missing nodejs on all architectures might mean some delay here?

Maybe, but then there's a proposed patch that can be NMU-uploaded while
the disagreement is resolved. Surely it can be used as a temporary
measure...

[...]

>> https://launchpad.net/~developmentseed/+archive/mapbox/+packages
>> 
>> Did anyone look at those previously?
>> 
> I have not studied their packaging yet, but I have installed the
> package on my Ubuntu desktop and it works great :-)

Uh! Well that's great. Maybe that can be used to compare and figure out
what's going on.

My hunch is that we have some messed up dependency version - say for
example node-bones...

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Message #87 received at 644767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ross Gammon <rossgammon@mail.dk>

Cc: Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@debian.org>, 644767@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Asked Tilemill upstream about Bones

Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 17:28:17 +0200

On 03/31/2014 03:29 PM, Antoine Beaupré wrote:
> On 2014-03-31 03:35:41, Ross Gammon wrote:
>> On 03/31/2014 12:01 AM, Antoine Beaupré wrote:

<snip>
> 
> My hunch is that we have some messed up dependency version - say for
> example node-bones...
> 
> a.
> 

Just asked TileMill upstream if they plan to switch to the node-bones
2.x.x series:
https://github.com/mapbox/tilemill/issues/2260

Ross

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From: Ross Gammon <ross@the-gammons.net>

To: 644767@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@debian.org>

Subject: Version of Bones - Upstream

Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2014 23:32:06 +0200

Dane Springmeyer from Tilemill upstream advises that we stick to the
recommended version of Bones.
They have no plans to switch to Bones 2, and will probably drop Bones
completely in a future release:
https://github.com/mapbox/tilemill/issues/2260
Ross

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From: Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org>

To: 644767@bugs.debian.org

Cc: control@bugs.debian.org

Subject: tilemill: changing from ITP to RFP

Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 13:17:00 +0100

retitle 644767 RFP: tilemill -- map design studio
noowner 644767
tag 644767 - pending
thanks

Hi,

A long time ago, you expressed interest in packaging tilemill. Unfortunately,
it seems that it did not happen. In Debian, we try not to keep ITP bugs open
for a too long time, as it might cause other prospective maintainers to
refrain from packaging the software.

This is an automatic email to change the status of tilemill from ITP
(Intent to Package) to RFP (Request for Package), because this bug hasn't seen
any activity during the last 12 months.

If you are still interested in packaging tilemill, please send a mail to
<control@bugs.debian.org> with:

 retitle 644767 ITP: tilemill -- map design studio
 owner 644767 !
 thanks

It is also a good idea to document your progress on this ITP from time to
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Message #106 received at 644767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@debian.org>

To: 644767@bugs.debian.org, 805308@bugs.debian.org, 761914@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Ross Gammon <rossgammon@mail.dk>, 742347@bugs.debian.org, pkg-javascript-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org

Subject: overview of the tilemill situation and alternatives (mapbox, kosmtik)

Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 11:40:02 -0400

so I am not sure this RFP is still relevant anymore. there hasn't been a
tilemill release since 2012. here's a summary of a discussion that
happened in #742347 (for some reason, I sent the discussion
there... sorry).

 1. Mapbox people have released a new product in september 2014 named
    [Mapbox studio classic][]. the code is a
    [still freely available][] and seems to be a
    [fork of tilemill][]. mapbox classic still has releases on github,
    last one is from november 2015

 [Mapbox studio classic]: https://www.mapbox.com/mapbox-studio-classic/#linux
 [still freely available]: https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-studio-classic
 [fork of tilemill]: https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-studio-classic/blob/mb-pages/docs/0000-01-01-common-questions.md#how-is-mapbox-studio-related-to-tilemill#user-content-how-is-mapbox-studio-classic-related-to-tilemill

 2. It looks like Mapbox studio classic has some sort of
    [Mapbox.com lock-in][], and there are certainly new copyright
    issues, if only with the [bundled fonts][]. but it could probably
    be packaged.

 [Mapbox.com lock-in]: https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-studio-classic/blob/mb-pages/docs/0000-01-01-common-questions.md#can-i-use-git-with-a-style-or-source-project
 [bundled fonts]: https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-studio-classic/blob/mb-pages/docs/0000-01-01-common-questions.md#what-cancant-i-do-with-pro-fonts

 3. Then there's [mapbox studio][], which is a
    [full rewrite of mapbox][]. You need to "signup" somehow to get
    access, even though parts of the code are free, namely the
    [Mapbox GL studio][] project

 [Mapbox GL studio]: https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-gl-native/
 [full rewrite of mapbox]: https://www.mapbox.com/help/upgrading-from-classic/
 [mapbox studio]: https://www.mapbox.com/mapbox-studio/

 4. The [Openstreetmap-carto][] developpers have mostly switched to
    [kosmtik][] instead of Mapbox.

 [Openstreetmap-carto]: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto
 [kosmtik]: https://github.com/kosmtik/kosmtik

 5. In short: Mapbox studio classic is not as good as Tilemill, Mapbox
    studio is very promising, but you still need to signup for access,
    and kosmtik seems to be working right now. 

 6. Ross has an [ITP for kosmtik][]. The package is waiting on other
    node dependencies to be uploaded (yes, again).
 
 [ITP for kosmtik]: https://bugs.debian.org/805308

 7. There is also an [ITP for Mapbox-studio][] yet it is unclear to me
    what that one means because the source code to Mapbox-studio
    doesn't seem to be available, as far as i can tell (and the ITP
    doesn't say either).

 [ITP for Mapbox-studio]: https://bugs.debian.org/#761914

 8. There's no WNPP bug for Mapbox studio *classic* that I can
    found. there's still an [RFP for tilemill][], which should
    probably be closed now because the project seems dead and plenty
    of alternatives exist. I wonder if node some dependencies that
    were packaged for Tilemill actually now need to be *removed* from
    Debian, because they have become useless leaf packages... I am
    leaving the Tilemill RFP open for someone to clean that up.

 [RFP for tilemill]: https://bugs.debian.org/644767

 9. Oh, and finally one could mention another Mapbox project,
    [Carto][], a commandline CSS tools that implements some sort of
    standard CSS language that all those tools end up using to talk to
    Mapnik, more or less. There are no RFPs for that.

 [Carto]: https://github.com/mapbox/carto

Phew! Sorry for the cross-posting among multiple bug reports, but
those tools all seem related in some way, and I kept on *not* finding
Mapbox while looking in the Tilemill RFP (and forgetting about
kosmtik).

With this point, I think all those tools are at least cross-referenced
and contributors can figure out where they want to put their energies
next.

A.

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Message #111 received at 644767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jérémy Lal <kapouer@melix.org>

To: Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@debian.org>, 742347@bugs.debian.org

Cc: 644767@bugs.debian.org, 805308@bugs.debian.org, 761914@bugs.debian.org, Ross Gammon <rossgammon@mail.dk>, Debian Javascript Maintainers <pkg-javascript-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>

Subject: Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#742347: overview of the tilemill situation and alternatives (mapbox, kosmtik)

Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 18:18:32 +0100

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2016-03-13 16:40 GMT+01:00 Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@debian.org>:

>
>  9. Oh, and finally one could mention another Mapbox project,
>     [Carto][], a commandline CSS tools that implements some sort of
>     standard CSS language that all those tools end up using to talk to
>     Mapnik, more or less. There are no RFPs for that.
>
>  [Carto]: https://github.com/mapbox/carto


carto is in debian - it needs to be updated, though (node-carto)

Jérémy

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Message #116 received at 644767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Sebastiaan Couwenberg <sebastic@xs4all.nl>

To: Jérémy Lal <kapouer@melix.org>, 742347@bugs.debian.org, Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@debian.org>

Cc: 805308@bugs.debian.org, Ross Gammon <rossgammon@mail.dk>, 644767@bugs.debian.org, Debian Javascript Maintainers <pkg-javascript-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>, 761914@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#742347: Bug#742347: overview of the tilemill situation and alternatives (mapbox, kosmtik)

Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2016 18:31:17 +0100

On 13-03-16 18:18, Jérémy Lal wrote:
> 2016-03-13 16:40 GMT+01:00 Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@debian.org>:
> 
>>
>>  9. Oh, and finally one could mention another Mapbox project,
>>     [Carto][], a commandline CSS tools that implements some sort of
>>     standard CSS language that all those tools end up using to talk to
>>     Mapnik, more or less. There are no RFPs for that.
>>
>>  [Carto]: https://github.com/mapbox/carto
> 
> 
> carto is in debian - it needs to be updated, though (node-carto)

mapnik-reference needs to be packaged for the new carto version, and
semver may need to be upgraded:

 Dependencies:
 NPM                               Debian
 carto (0.15.3)                    node-carto (0.9.5-2)
 ├─ mapnik-reference (~8.5.0)      None
 │  └─ semver (^5.1.0)             node-semver (2.1.0-2)
 ├─ optimist (~0.6.0)              node-optimist (0.6.1-1)
 └─ underscore (~1.6.0)            underscore (1.7.0~dfsg-1)

 Build dependencies:
 NPM                               Debian
 coveralls (~2.10.1)               None
 istanbul (~0.2.14)                None
 jshint (0.2.x)                    None
 mocha (1.12.x)                    node-mocha (1.20.1-1)
 sax (0.1.x)                       sax.js (0.5.5-1)

Kind Regards,

Bas

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Message #121 received at 644767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Ross Gammon <rossgammon@mail.dk>

To: Antoine Beaupré <anarcat@debian.org>, 742347@bugs.debian.org, 644767@bugs.debian.org, 805308@bugs.debian.org, 761914@bugs.debian.org

Cc: pkg-javascript-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org

Subject: Re: [Pkg-javascript-devel] Bug#742347: overview of the tilemill situation and alternatives (mapbox, kosmtik)

Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2016 22:06:34 +0100

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Hi Antoine,

Thanks for that excellent summary! It has cleared up a confusion that I
had. More below:

On 03/13/2016 04:40 PM, Antoine Beaupré wrote:
>  1. Mapbox people have released a new product in september 2014 named
>     [Mapbox studio classic][]. the code is a
>     [still freely available][] and seems to be a
>     [fork of tilemill][]. mapbox classic still has releases on github,
>     last one is from november 2015
> 
>  [Mapbox studio classic]: https://www.mapbox.com/mapbox-studio-classic/#linux
>  [still freely available]: https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-studio-classic
>  [fork of tilemill]: https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-studio-classic/blob/mb-pages/docs/0000-01-01-common-questions.md#how-is-mapbox-studio-related-to-tilemill#user-content-how-is-mapbox-studio-classic-related-to-tilemill

Actually, it looks like mapbox-studio was renamed mapbox-studio-classic
when they released the new mapbox-studio [3] which runs online (after
sign up).

> 
>  2. It looks like Mapbox studio classic has some sort of
>     [Mapbox.com lock-in][], and there are certainly new copyright
>     issues, if only with the [bundled fonts][]. but it could probably
>     be packaged.
> 
>  [Mapbox.com lock-in]: https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-studio-classic/blob/mb-pages/docs/0000-01-01-common-questions.md#can-i-use-git-with-a-style-or-source-project
>  [bundled fonts]: https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-studio-classic/blob/mb-pages/docs/0000-01-01-common-questions.md#what-cancant-i-do-with-pro-fonts

Yes. Mapbox-studio (classic) needs a log in, but is probably worthwhile
for access to all the datasets. I have not signed up yet :-)

> 
>  3. Then there's [mapbox studio][], which is a
>     [full rewrite of mapbox][]. You need to "signup" somehow to get
>     access, even though parts of the code are free, namely the
>     [Mapbox GL studio][] project
> 
>  [Mapbox GL studio]: https://github.com/mapbox/mapbox-gl-native/
>  [full rewrite of mapbox]: https://www.mapbox.com/help/upgrading-from-classic/
>  [mapbox studio]: https://www.mapbox.com/mapbox-studio/
> 
>  4. The [Openstreetmap-carto][] developpers have mostly switched to
>     [kosmtik][] instead of Mapbox.
> 
>  [Openstreetmap-carto]: https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto
>  [kosmtik]: https://github.com/kosmtik/kosmtik

Kosmtik will be the quickest to package. But as stated in the readme:
"Alpha version, installable only from source". We would need to create
an executable (which upstream themselves believe they are not ready for).

>  6. Ross has an [ITP for kosmtik][]. The package is waiting on other
>     node dependencies to be uploaded (yes, again).
>  
>  [ITP for kosmtik]: https://bugs.debian.org/805308

Feel free to help out by picking up one of the RFP's :-)

> 
>  7. There is also an [ITP for Mapbox-studio][] yet it is unclear to me
>     what that one means because the source code to Mapbox-studio
>     doesn't seem to be available, as far as i can tell (and the ITP
>     doesn't say either).
> 
>  [ITP for Mapbox-studio]: https://bugs.debian.org/#761914

This is where the confusion was. $ npm install mapbox-studio gets you:
https://www.npmjs.com/package/mapbox-studio
This points you to the source at github.com/mapbox/mapbox-studio which
redirects to github.com/mapbox/mapbox-studio-classic!

> 
>  8. There's no WNPP bug for Mapbox studio *classic* that I can
>     found.

So now there is! I will retitle the mapbox-studio RFP to
mapbox-studio-classic, and the relevant Javascript Team task page:
https://wiki.debian.org/Javascript/Nodejs/Tasks/mapbox-studio
There is plenty here that needs packaging.

 there's still an [RFP for tilemill][], which should
>     probably be closed now because the project seems dead and plenty
>     of alternatives exist. I wonder if node some dependencies that
>     were packaged for Tilemill actually now need to be *removed* from
>     Debian, because they have become useless leaf packages... I am
>     leaving the Tilemill RFP open for someone to clean that up.
> 
>  [RFP for tilemill]: https://bugs.debian.org/644767

We should not be too hasty here. Some of the dependencies may still be
required by other mapping apps. Also, tilemill is not completely dead.
The mapbox employees are not allowed to work on tilemill during work
time, but they will merge pull requests, and are happy to give wider
commit access. Someone stated on one of their bugs that their personal
fork of tilemill is working and is willing to push those changes back.
So it could be resurrected yet.

Of course, some packages may get removed from stretch automatically (RC)
anyway.

Cheers,

Ross

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