Debian Bug report logs - #643678
lists.debian.org: Please create debian-mobile@lists.debian.org

Package: lists.debian.org; Maintainer for lists.debian.org is Debian Listmaster Team <listmaster@lists.debian.org>;

Reported by: Didier Raboud <odyx@debian.org>

Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 16:00:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Done: Alexander Wirt <formorer@formorer.de>

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From: Didier Raboud <odyx@debian.org>
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: lists.debian.org: Please create debian-mobile@lists.debian.org (was: Re: Mobile UXes - From the DebConf11 BoF to the stars)
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:57:02 +0200
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Package: lists.debian.org
Severity: normal

Le jeudi, 8 septembre 2011 16.32:45, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
> I applaud this "merge" effort. Kudos!
> 
> On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:36:17AM +0200, Didier Raboud wrote:
> > c) Create a new Alioth project, 'mobile-ux', with associated
> > mailing-lists and a wiki page.
> 
> Given you are going to provide a central discussion forum for Debian
> "mobile" stuff, you might want to be a bit more bold and request the
> "debian-mobile@lists.d.o" mailing list. That might provide some more
> visibility to this laudable initiative.

Agreed.

So here is the formal request for a debian-mobile@lists.debian.org :

Name: debian-mobile@lists.debian.org

Rationale: Packaging efforts around mobile user interfaces are currently
 scattered around in many different alioth projects, mailing lists, etc.
 See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/09/msg00126.html for a more
 complete rationale.

Short description: Mobile interfaces in Debian

Long description: Discussions around packaging suitable mobile interfaces to 
 Debian. Mobile systems have a user-interface different than the traditional
 'keyboard-mouse' pair, can be battery-powered, have a generally small form
 factor and/or only allow few elements on a given screen.

Category: Developers

Subscription Policy: open

Post Policy: open

Web Archive: yes


Thanks for considering, cheers,

-- 
OdyX
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From: Hector Oron <zumbi@debian.org>
To: Didier Raboud <odyx@debian.org>, 643678@bugs.debian.org
Cc: listmaster@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: lists.debian.org: Please create debian-mobile@lists.debian.org
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 11:45:15 +0100
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Hello,

On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 05:57:02PM +0200, Didier Raboud wrote:
> Package: lists.debian.org
> Severity: normal
> 
> Le jeudi, 8 septembre 2011 16.32:45, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
> > I applaud this "merge" effort. Kudos!
> > 
> > On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:36:17AM +0200, Didier Raboud wrote:
> > > c) Create a new Alioth project, 'mobile-ux', with associated
> > > mailing-lists and a wiki page.
> > 
> > Given you are going to provide a central discussion forum for Debian
> > "mobile" stuff, you might want to be a bit more bold and request the
> > "debian-mobile@lists.d.o" mailing list. That might provide some more
> > visibility to this laudable initiative.
> 
> Agreed.
> 
> So here is the formal request for a debian-mobile@lists.debian.org :
> 
> Name: debian-mobile@lists.debian.org


Is there any chance this mailing list can be created?


> Rationale: Packaging efforts around mobile user interfaces are currently
>  scattered around in many different alioth projects, mailing lists, etc.
>  See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/09/msg00126.html for a more
>  complete rationale.
> 
> Short description: Mobile interfaces in Debian
> 
> Long description: Discussions around packaging suitable mobile interfaces to 
>  Debian. Mobile systems have a user-interface different than the traditional
>  'keyboard-mouse' pair, can be battery-powered, have a generally small form
>  factor and/or only allow few elements on a given screen.
> 
> Category: Developers
> 
> Subscription Policy: open
> 
> Post Policy: open
> 
> Web Archive: yes
> 
> 
> Thanks for considering, cheers,
> 
> -- 
> OdyX


Cheers,
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From: Alexander Wirt <formorer@debian.org>
To: Hector Oron <zumbi@debian.org>, 643678@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Didier Raboud <odyx@debian.org>, listmaster@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#643678: lists.debian.org: Please create debian-mobile@lists.debian.org
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:50:37 +0200
Hector Oron schrieb am Freitag, den 21. Oktober 2011:

> Hello,
> 
> On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 05:57:02PM +0200, Didier Raboud wrote:
> > Package: lists.debian.org
> > Severity: normal
> > 
> > Le jeudi, 8 septembre 2011 16.32:45, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
> > > I applaud this "merge" effort. Kudos!
> > > 
> > > On Thu, Sep 08, 2011 at 10:36:17AM +0200, Didier Raboud wrote:
> > > > c) Create a new Alioth project, 'mobile-ux', with associated
> > > > mailing-lists and a wiki page.
> > > 
> > > Given you are going to provide a central discussion forum for Debian
> > > "mobile" stuff, you might want to be a bit more bold and request the
> > > "debian-mobile@lists.d.o" mailing list. That might provide some more
> > > visibility to this laudable initiative.
> > 
> > Agreed.
> > 
> > So here is the formal request for a debian-mobile@lists.debian.org :
> > 
> > Name: debian-mobile@lists.debian.org
> 
> 
> Is there any chance this mailing list can be created?
Not without more seconders. And even then we would just reenable
debian-handheld@.

Alex
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From: Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org>
To: 643678@bugs.debian.org
Cc: listmaster@lists.debian.org, Didier Raboud <odyx@debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#643678: lists.debian.org: Please create debian-mobile@lists.debian.org
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 13:31:25 +0200
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On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 12:50:37PM +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:
> > > Le jeudi, 8 septembre 2011 16.32:45, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit :
> > > > Given you are going to provide a central discussion forum for Debian
> > > > "mobile" stuff, you might want to be a bit more bold and request the
> > > > "debian-mobile@lists.d.o" mailing list. That might provide some more
> > > > visibility to this laudable initiative.
> > > 
> > > So here is the formal request for a debian-mobile@lists.debian.org :
> > > Name: debian-mobile@lists.debian.org
> > 
> > Is there any chance this mailing list can be created?
> Not without more seconders.

I guess I was already considered as a seconder, given I proposed this
name, but just in case: I hereby second Didier's request to create
-mobile.

> And even then we would just reenable debian-handheld@.

I pledge for -mobile, as names do matter and "mobile" is, nowadays, a
way clearer and straight to the point name than "handheld". Of course,
it'd be great if you can migrate old archives of -handheld to the new
list, but it'd even greater if you can retain the "-mobile" name.

Many thanks in advance for your support,
Cheers.
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Message #27 received at 643678@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Hector Oron <zumbi@debian.org>
To: Alexander Wirt <formorer@debian.org>
Cc: 643678@bugs.debian.org, Didier Raboud <odyx@debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#643678: lists.debian.org: Please create debian-mobile@lists.debian.org
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:56:58 +0100
Hello,

2011/10/21 Alexander Wirt <formorer@debian.org>:
> Hector Oron schrieb am Freitag, den 21. Oktober 2011:

>> Is there any chance this mailing list can be created?

> Not without more seconders. And even then we would just reenable
> debian-handheld@.

Well, in that case, seconded debian-mobile.

Note that part of the plan is to unify all related mailing lists into
debian-mobile and close the rest of mailing lists, either in debian or
alioth.

Cheers,
-- 
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From: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>
To: 643678@bugs.debian.org
Subject: lists.d.o: 643678: please create a debian-mobile list
Date: Sat, 22 Oct 2011 12:57:16 +0800
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I second the creation of this list, it will help Debian expand towards
being more useful on mobile devices like handsets, tablets etc.

As to the name, I would recommend using debian-mobile rather than
debian-handheld if possible, for the reasons suggested by zack.

-- 
bye,
pabs

http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise
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From: Sebastian Reichel <sre@debian.org>
To: 643678@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#643678: lists.debian.org: Please create debian-mobile@lists.debian.org
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 14:33:52 +0200
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Hi,

I also second the creation of this list!

-- Sebastian
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From: gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org>
To: 643678@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#643678: lists.debian.org: Please create debian-mobile@lists.debian.org
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 15:22:23 +0200
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On Fri, 21 Oct 2011 12:50:37 +0200, Alexander Wirt wrote:

> Hector Oron schrieb am Freitag, den 21. Oktober 2011:
> > On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 05:57:02PM +0200, Didier Raboud wrote:

> > > So here is the formal request for a debian-mobile@lists.debian.org :
> > > Name: debian-mobile@lists.debian.org

> > Is there any chance this mailing list can be created?

> Not without more seconders. And even then we would just reenable
> debian-handheld@.

I second the creation of a debian-mobile list.


Cheers,
gregor 
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From: Gilles Filippini <pini@debian.org>
To: listmaster@lists.debian.org
Cc: 643678@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Re: Bug#643678: lists.debian.org: Please create debian-mobile@lists.debian.org
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 19:13:07 +0200
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Hi,

Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit , Le 21 Oct 2011 13:31:25 +0200:
> I pledge for -mobile, as names do matter and "mobile" is, nowadays, a
> way clearer and straight to the point name than "handheld". Of course,
> it'd be great if you can migrate old archives of -handheld to the new
> list, but it'd even greater if you can retain the "-mobile" name.

I hereby second the creation of the debian-mobile list.

Thanks,

_g.

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Message #52 received at 643678@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Didier Raboud <odyx@debian.org>
To: listmaster@lists.debian.org
Cc: 643678@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Bug#643678: lists.debian.org: Please create debian-mobile@lists.debian.org (ping)
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 16:58:54 +0100
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Dear listmasters, 

it's now been a month since the last mail to this bug for the opening of 
debian-mobile@l.d.o; can we have a status update?

As far as I can see from the bug log, it has 1 proposer (myself) and 6 seconds 
(all project members).

- zack #22
- zumbi #27
- pabs #32
- sre #37
- gregoa #42
- pini #47

Thanks for considering; cheers,

Didier Raboud
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Message #57 received at 643678@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Alexander Wirt <formorer@formorer.de>
To: Didier Raboud <odyx@debian.org>
Cc: listmaster@lists.debian.org, 643678@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#643678: lists.debian.org: Please create debian-mobile@lists.debian.org (ping)
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 17:03:56 +0100
Didier Raboud schrieb am Friday, den 25. November 2011:

> Dear listmasters, 
> 
> it's now been a month since the last mail to this bug for the opening of 
> debian-mobile@l.d.o; can we have a status update?
I don't do list creation so often (and nobody else creates lists). But I
think that I will accept the list as it is, even if I don't like the name.

I think I will do the next list creation wave sometimes during the next two
weeks.

Alex




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Message #62 received at 643678-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Alexander Wirt <formorer@formorer.de>
To: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>, 643678-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#643678: lists.d.o: 643678: please create a debian-mobile list
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:18:34 +0100
Paul Wise schrieb am Saturday, den 22. October 2011:

Heho,

> I second the creation of this list, it will help Debian expand towards
> being more useful on mobile devices like handsets, tablets etc.
> 
> As to the name, I would recommend using debian-mobile rather than
> debian-handheld if possible, for the reasons suggested by zack.
I created your new mailinglist. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-mobile/.

Alex





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