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texlive-latex-extra: dependency problem: fancytooltips requires acrotex which is not packaged

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Adrian <adrian.daerr@gmx.de>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: texlive-latex-extra: dependency problem: fancytooltips requires acrotex which is not packaged

Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 00:09:57 +0200

Package: texlive-latex-extra
Version: 2009-10
Severity: normal


Attempting to include the fancytooltips package (see minimal example 
below) fails because a package required by it (eforms.sty) is not 
available. According to

http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=eforms.sty&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all
http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=acrotex&searchon=names&suite=all&section=all

this file (which is part of the acrotex package) is not packaged by 
Debian at all.

observed behaviour:
failure to compile, error message
! LaTeX Error: File `eforms.sty' not found.

work-around:
install acrotex from mirror.ctan.org into local TEXINPUTS path

conclusion: 
The package itself is *not* broken (it's slightly outdated with respect 
to the current version at CTAN, but that's another matter), but it 
depends on additional software which is not available within the Debian 
packaging system.

recommendation: 
Either take fancytooltips out of texlive-latex-extra or (better) include 
acrotex as well. The acrotex distribution licence is 'LaTeX Project 
Public License, either version 1.2 of this license or (at your option) 
any later version' according to the header of 
http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/CTAN/macros/latex/contrib/acrotex/acrotex.ins


-- Package-specific info:
If you report an error when running one of the TeX-related binaries 
(latex, pdftex, metafont,...), or if the bug is related to bad or wrong
output, please include a MINIMAL example input file that produces the
error in your report. 

Please run your example with
	(pdf)latex -recorder ...
(or any other program that supports -recorder) and send us the generated
file with the extension .fls, it lists all the files loaded during
the run and can easily explain problems induced by outdated files in
your home directory.

Don't forget to also include minimal examples of other files that are 
needed, e.g. bibtex databases. Often it also helps
to include the logfile. Please, never send included pictures!

If your example file isn't short or produces more than one page of
output (except when multiple pages are needed to show the problem),
you can probably minimize it further. Instructions on how to do that
can be found at

http://www.latex-einfuehrung.de/mini-en.html (english)

or 

http://www.latex-einfuehrung.de/mini.html (german)

##################################
minimal input file

\documentclass{article}

\usepackage{xcolor}% either xcolor or color required by fancytooltips
\usepackage[filename=tooltips]{fancytooltips}

\begin{document}
\end{document}

##################################
other files

% the complete output of pdflatex with the above minimal example as input

This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009/Debian)
entering extended mode
(./ttt.tex
LaTeX2e <2009/09/24>
Babel <v3.8l> and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh
yphenation, loaded.
(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/article.cls
Document Class: article 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class
(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/size10.clo))
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/xcolor/xcolor.sty
(/etc/texmf/tex/latex/config/color.cfg)
(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/pdftex-def/pdftex.def))
(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/fancytooltips/fancytooltips.sty
(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/ms/everyshi.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/graphicx.sty
(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty)
(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty
(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty)
(/etc/texmf/tex/latex/config/graphics.cfg)))
(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/xkeyval/xkeyval.sty
(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/generic/xkeyval/xkeyval.tex))
(/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/eso-pic/eso-pic.sty)

! LaTeX Error: File `eforms.sty' not found.

Type X to quit or <RETURN> to proceed,
or enter new name. (Default extension: sty)

Enter file name: x


% the FLS file generated through 'pdflatex -recorder test.tex'

PWD /home/adrian/Textes/hdr
INPUT /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf
INPUT /var/lib/texmf/web2c/pdftex/pdflatex.fmt
INPUT ttt.tex
OUTPUT ttt.log
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/article.cls
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/article.cls
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/size10.clo
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/size10.clo
INPUT /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/xcolor/xcolor.sty
INPUT /usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/xcolor/xcolor.sty
INPUT /etc/texmf/tex/latex/config/color.cfg
INPUT /etc/texmf/tex/latex/config/color.cfg
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/pdftex-def/pdftex.def
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/pdftex-def/pdftex.def
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/fancytooltips/fancytooltips.sty
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/fancytooltips/fancytooltips.sty
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/ms/everyshi.sty
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/ms/everyshi.sty
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/graphicx.sty
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/graphicx.sty
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty
INPUT /etc/texmf/tex/latex/config/graphics.cfg
INPUT /etc/texmf/tex/latex/config/graphics.cfg
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/xkeyval/xkeyval.sty
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/xkeyval/xkeyval.sty
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/generic/xkeyval/xkeyval.tex
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/eso-pic/eso-pic.sty
INPUT /usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/eso-pic/eso-pic.sty

######################################
 List of ls-R files

-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1542 Jul 28 17:46 /var/lib/texmf/ls-R
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root staff 80 Jul 28 13:06 /usr/local/share/texmf/ls-R
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 29 Jun 26 02:04 /usr/share/texmf/ls-R -> /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXMFMAIN
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 Sep 25  2010 /usr/share/texmf-texlive/ls-R -> /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXLIVE
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 Sep 25  2010 /usr/share/texmf-texlive/ls-R -> /var/lib/texmf/ls-R-TEXLIVE
######################################
 Config files
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20 Jun 26 02:04 /usr/share/texmf/web2c/texmf.cnf -> /etc/texmf/texmf.cnf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4172 Jul 28 17:45 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/fmtutil.cnf
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 8394 Jul 28 13:11 /var/lib/texmf/web2c/updmap.cfg
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 3110 Jul 28 13:11 /var/lib/texmf/tex/generic/config/language.dat
######################################
 Files in /etc/texmf/web2c/
total 4
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 283 Jun 26 02:04 mktex.cnf
######################################
 md5sums of texmf.d
3875bf0f4a53a29b7f247399dc9833e2  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/05TeXMF.cnf
6e82a3d4c00ae7e4f86aa8dcf9438cf3  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/15Plain.cnf
c60a084820a0b73e3bfbf2e90bda437c  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/45TeXinputs.cnf
ea33127256c6a9f37145ae5b16fdb80c  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/55Fonts.cnf
afccf1d3f87057411166a77c58e00bd1  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/65BibTeX.cnf
9da7c1c7b1eaf06f941af91f48a23068  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/75DviPS.cnf
7ae52efac46feb97010986e57877d12e  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/80DVIPDFMx.cnf
37329819f1109e8a457e64b8b58fecdb  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/85Misc.cnf
a8952d594677235951d447665ec46e9c  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/90TeXDoc.cnf
402d5adb3864c09ed3cd80c0f2131361  /etc/texmf/texmf.d/95NonPath.cnf

-- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (800, 'testing'), (50, 'experimental'), (50, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.39-2-686-pae (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_US.utf8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages texlive-latex-extra depends on:
ii  dpkg                          1.16.0.3   Debian package management system
ii  preview-latex-style           11.86-4    extraction of elements from LaTeX 
ii  tex-common                    2.10       common infrastructure for building
ii  texlive-binaries              2009-9     Binaries for TeX Live
ii  texlive-common                2009-11    TeX Live: Base component
ii  texlive-latex-base            2009-11    TeX Live: Basic LaTeX packages
ii  texlive-pictures              2009-11    TeX Live: Graphics packages and pr

Versions of packages texlive-latex-extra recommends:
ii  texlive-latex-extra-doc       2009-10    TeX Live: Documentation files for 
ii  texlive-latex-recommended     2009-11    TeX Live: LaTeX recommended packag
ii  texpower                      0.2-7      Macros for creating professional p

texlive-latex-extra suggests no packages.

Versions of packages tex-common depends on:
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0]        1.5.40      Debian configuration management sy
ii  dpkg                         1.16.0.3    Debian package management system
ii  ucf                          3.0025+nmu2 Update Configuration File: preserv

Versions of packages tex-common suggests:
pn  debhelper                     <none>     (no description available)

Versions of packages texlive-latex-extra is related to:
ii  tex-common                    2.10       common infrastructure for building
ii  texlive-binaries              2009-9     Binaries for TeX Live

-- debconf information:
  tex-common/check_texmf_wrong:
  tex-common/check_texmf_missing:

Message #10 received at 635834@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Hilmar Preuße <hille42@web.de>

To: Adrian <adrian.daerr@gmx.de>, 635834@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#635834: texlive-latex-extra: dependency problem: fancytooltips requires acrotex which is not packaged

Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 17:29:51 +0200

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

On 29.07.11 00:09, Adrian wrote:

Hi Norbert,

could you care about this and push acrotex into TeX Live upstream?
According to [1] it is LPPL, hence there should be no licensing issue.

Hilmar

[1] https://ctan.org/tex-archive/macros/latex/contrib/acrotex
> observed behaviour:
> failure to compile, error message
> ! LaTeX Error: File `eforms.sty' not found.
> 
> work-around:
> install acrotex from mirror.ctan.org into local TEXINPUTS path
> 
> conclusion: 
> The package itself is *not* broken (it's slightly outdated with respect 
> to the current version at CTAN, but that's another matter), but it 
> depends on additional software which is not available within the Debian 
> packaging system.
> 
> recommendation: 
> Either take fancytooltips out of texlive-latex-extra or (better) include 
> acrotex as well. The acrotex distribution licence is 'LaTeX Project 
> Public License, either version 1.2 of this license or (at your option) 
> any later version' according to the header of 
> http://mirrors.ircam.fr/pub/CTAN/macros/latex/contrib/acrotex/acrotex.ins
> 
> 
> -- Package-specific info:
> If you report an error when running one of the TeX-related binaries 
> (latex, pdftex, metafont,...), or if the bug is related to bad or wrong
> output, please include a MINIMAL example input file that produces the
> error in your report. 
> 
> Please run your example with
> 	(pdf)latex -recorder ...
> (or any other program that supports -recorder) and send us the generated
> file with the extension .fls, it lists all the files loaded during
> the run and can easily explain problems induced by outdated files in
> your home directory.
> 
> Don't forget to also include minimal examples of other files that are 
> needed, e.g. bibtex databases. Often it also helps
> to include the logfile. Please, never send included pictures!
> 
> If your example file isn't short or produces more than one page of
> output (except when multiple pages are needed to show the problem),
> you can probably minimize it further. Instructions on how to do that
> can be found at
> 
> http://www.latex-einfuehrung.de/mini-en.html (english)
> 
> or 
> 
> http://www.latex-einfuehrung.de/mini.html (german)
> 
> ##################################
> minimal input file
> 
> \documentclass{article}
> 
> \usepackage{xcolor}% either xcolor or color required by fancytooltips
> \usepackage[filename=tooltips]{fancytooltips}
> 
> \begin{document}
> \end{document}
> 
> ##################################
> other files
> 
> % the complete output of pdflatex with the above minimal example as input
> 
> This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.10 (TeX Live 2009/Debian)
> entering extended mode
> (./ttt.tex
> LaTeX2e <2009/09/24>
> Babel <v3.8l> and hyphenation patterns for english, usenglishmax, dumylang, noh
> yphenation, loaded.
> (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/article.cls
> Document Class: article 2007/10/19 v1.4h Standard LaTeX document class
> (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/base/size10.clo))
> (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/xcolor/xcolor.sty
> (/etc/texmf/tex/latex/config/color.cfg)
> (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/pdftex-def/pdftex.def))
> (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/fancytooltips/fancytooltips.sty
> (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/ms/everyshi.sty)
> (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/graphicx.sty
> (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/keyval.sty)
> (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/graphics.sty
> (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/graphics/trig.sty)
> (/etc/texmf/tex/latex/config/graphics.cfg)))
> (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/xkeyval/xkeyval.sty
> (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/generic/xkeyval/xkeyval.tex))
> (/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/eso-pic/eso-pic.sty)
> 
> ! LaTeX Error: File `eforms.sty' not found.
> 
> Type X to quit or <RETURN> to proceed,
> or enter new name. (Default extension: sty)
> 
> Enter file name: x
> 


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Message #15 received at 635834@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>

To: Hilmar Preuße <hille42@web.de>, 635834@bugs.debian.org

Cc: Adrian <adrian.daerr@gmx.de>

Subject: Re: Bug#635834: texlive-latex-extra: dependency problem: fancytooltips requires acrotex which is not packaged

Date: Sat, 13 Jul 2019 23:34:27 +0900

tags 635834 + wontfix
thanks

On Fri, 12 Jul 2019, Hilmar Preuße wrote:
> could you care about this and push acrotex into TeX Live upstream?
> According to [1] it is LPPL, hence there should be no licensing issue.

Support files that are free but can only be used with commercial
software (in this case Acrobat) are not included in TeX Live. Since
ever. And they will not be.

Tagging as wontfix.

Best

Norbert

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Message #22 received at 635834@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jason Gross <jgross@mit.edu>

To: 635834@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#635834: texlive-latex-extra: dependency problem: fancytooltips requires acrotex which is not packaged

Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 21:06:26 -0400

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

> Support files that are free but can only be used with commercial
> software (in this case Acrobat) are not included in TeX Live. Since
> ever. And they will not be.

This is a mischaractarization.  eforms.sty generates pdfs which work
perfectly fine with software such as Chromium and Firefox, and does not
require Acrobat to be used.  Is the issue that the acrotex bundle includes
some files which work only with Acrobat?  (If so, could you include just
eforms.sty and the files eforms.sty needs to function?)

-Jason

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Message #27 received at 635834@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>

To: Jason Gross <jgross@mit.edu>, 635834@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#635834: texlive-latex-extra: dependency problem: fancytooltips requires acrotex which is not packaged

Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 10:37:07 +0900

Hi Jason,

> > Support files that are free but can only be used with commercial
> > software (in this case Acrobat) are not included in TeX Live. Since
> > ever. And they will not be.
> 
> This is a mischaractarization.  eforms.sty generates pdfs which work

No, it is not. This is the policy of the TeX Live Team.
Yes, the *generated* files can be used with other software, but to
*generate* the files one needs Adobe Acrobat. And thus acrotex
will not be included in TeX Live. And we will not pick single files.
Nor will do upstream TeX Live.

Best

Norbert

--
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Message #32 received at 635834@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jason Gross <jgross@mit.edu>

To: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>

Cc: 635834@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#635834: texlive-latex-extra: dependency problem: fancytooltips requires acrotex which is not packaged

Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 22:15:22 -0400

[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]

> Yes, the *generated* files can be used with other software, but to
> *generate* the files one needs Adobe Acrobat.

This is perhaps true of some of the features in the acrotex bundle, but it
is not true of eforms (which is part of the acrotex bundle).  The following
.tex file compiles fine on systems without Acrobat installed (and even
without needing to enable write18):

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{hyperref}
\usepackage{eforms}
\begin{document}
Field: \textField[\V{foo}]{bar}{15em}{\baselineskip}
\end{document}

On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 9:37 PM Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at> wrote:

> Hi Jason,
>
> > > Support files that are free but can only be used with commercial
> > > software (in this case Acrobat) are not included in TeX Live. Since
> > > ever. And they will not be.
> >
> > This is a mischaractarization.  eforms.sty generates pdfs which work
>
> No, it is not. This is the policy of the TeX Live Team.
> Yes, the *generated* files can be used with other software, but to
> *generate* the files one needs Adobe Acrobat. And thus acrotex
> will not be included in TeX Live. And we will not pick single files.
> Nor will do upstream TeX Live.
>
> Best
>
> Norbert
>
> --
> PREINING Norbert                              https://www.preining.info
> Accelia Inc. + IFMGA ProGuide + TU Wien + JAIST + TeX Live + Debian Dev
> GPG: 0x860CDC13   fp: F7D8 A928 26E3 16A1 9FA0 ACF0 6CAC A448 860C DC13
>

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Message #37 received at 635834@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jason Gross <jgross@mit.edu>

To: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>

Cc: 635834@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#635834: texlive-latex-extra: dependency problem: fancytooltips requires acrotex which is not packaged

Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 22:37:44 -0400

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Also, it's clear to me now that I miscommunicated; when I said "This is a
mischaracterization", I was referring to the claim that "Support files that
are free but can only be used with commercial software (in this case
Acrobat)" applied to eforms, not the description of the policy.  Sorry for
the confusion and for being unclear.

On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 10:15 PM Jason Gross <jgross@mit.edu> wrote:

> > Yes, the *generated* files can be used with other software, but to
> > *generate* the files one needs Adobe Acrobat.
>
> This is perhaps true of some of the features in the acrotex bundle, but it
> is not true of eforms (which is part of the acrotex bundle).  The following
> .tex file compiles fine on systems without Acrobat installed (and even
> without needing to enable write18):
>
> \documentclass{article}
> \usepackage{hyperref}
> \usepackage{eforms}
> \begin{document}
> Field: \textField[\V{foo}]{bar}{15em}{\baselineskip}
> \end{document}
>
> On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 9:37 PM Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jason,
>>
>> > > Support files that are free but can only be used with commercial
>> > > software (in this case Acrobat) are not included in TeX Live. Since
>> > > ever. And they will not be.
>> >
>> > This is a mischaractarization.  eforms.sty generates pdfs which work
>>
>> No, it is not. This is the policy of the TeX Live Team.
>> Yes, the *generated* files can be used with other software, but to
>> *generate* the files one needs Adobe Acrobat. And thus acrotex
>> will not be included in TeX Live. And we will not pick single files.
>> Nor will do upstream TeX Live.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Norbert
>>
>> --
>> PREINING Norbert                              https://www.preining.info
>> Accelia Inc. + IFMGA ProGuide + TU Wien + JAIST + TeX Live + Debian Dev
>> GPG: 0x860CDC13   fp: F7D8 A928 26E3 16A1 9FA0 ACF0 6CAC A448 860C DC13
>>
>

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Message #42 received at 635834@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>

To: Jason Gross <jgross@mit.edu>

Cc: 635834@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#635834: texlive-latex-extra: dependency problem: fancytooltips requires acrotex which is not packaged

Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 11:42:56 +0900

> This is perhaps true of some of the features in the acrotex bundle, but it
> is not true of eforms (which is part of the acrotex bundle).  The following

That might be, but as I said, neither upstream TeX Live nor Debian will
pick single files from other packages.

If you need them, you can install the acrotex bundle using tlmgr user
mode and the repository contrib.texlive.info, or just install the two
files into TEXMFHOME.

Best

Norbert

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Message #47 received at 635834@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Jason Gross <jgross@mit.edu>

To: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>

Cc: 635834@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#635834: texlive-latex-extra: dependency problem: fancytooltips requires acrotex which is not packaged

Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 20:03:55 -0500

According to the author of acrotex:
> In acrotex, the only acrobat requirement is with insdljs for users of the tex to dvi  to dvips to distiller/acrobat. For users of pdflatex, lualatex, and xelatex, distiller/acrobat not required.

So, if this is accurate and I'm understanding the author correctly,
none of the files have a requirement of distiller/acrobat.  If this is
the case, is there anything in the way of TeX Live / Debian shipping
all of acrotex?

On Sun, Oct 4, 2020 at 9:43 PM Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at> wrote:
>
> > This is perhaps true of some of the features in the acrotex bundle, but it
> > is not true of eforms (which is part of the acrotex bundle).  The following
>
> That might be, but as I said, neither upstream TeX Live nor Debian will
> pick single files from other packages.
>
> If you need them, you can install the acrotex bundle using tlmgr user
> mode and the repository contrib.texlive.info, or just install the two
> files into TEXMFHOME.
>
> Best
>
> Norbert
>
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Message #52 received at 635834@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Norbert Preining <preining@logic.at>

To: Jason Gross <jgross@mit.edu>, 635834@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Re: Bug#635834: texlive-latex-extra: dependency problem: fancytooltips requires acrotex which is not packaged

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 10:20:41 +0900

On Sat, 10 Oct 2020, Jason Gross wrote:
> So, if this is accurate and I'm understanding the author correctly,
> none of the files have a requirement of distiller/acrobat.  If this is
> the case, is there anything in the way of TeX Live / Debian shipping
> all of acrotex?

Might be, if you think so, please discuss with upstream at
texlive@tug.org and see whether you can convince the team there, in
particular Karl Berry, who is the guardian of what is going into TL.

Other option is that someone picks up acrotex and packages it separately
for Debian, shouldn't be too difficult (since tlmgr ready repackaging is
available).

Best

Norbert

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