Debian Bug report logs - #627508
Conflict between dconf and dconf-tools ?

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Packages: dconf, dconf-tools; Maintainer for dconf is Leo Eraly <leo@unstable.be>; Maintainer for dconf-tools is Debian GNOME Maintainers <pkg-gnome-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>; Source for dconf-tools is src:d-conf.

Reported by: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>

Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 11:12:02 UTC

Severity: serious

Tags: sid, wheezy

Found in version dconf/0.5.1-2

Fixed in version 0.5.1-2+rm

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Leo Eraly <leo@unstable.be>, Debian GNOME Maintainers <pkg-gnome-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>:
Bug#627508; Package dconf, dconf-tools. (Sat, 21 May 2011 11:12:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>:
New Bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to Leo Eraly <leo@unstable.be>, Debian GNOME Maintainers <pkg-gnome-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>. (Sat, 21 May 2011 11:12:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>
To: shirish शिरीष <shirishag75@gmail.com>, submit@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Debian-gnome-maint <pkg-gnome-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>, Leo Eraly <leo@unstable.be>
Subject: Re: Conflict between dconf and dconf-tools ?
Date: Sat, 21 May 2011 13:10:14 +0200
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Package: dconf, dconf-tools
Severity: serious
Justification: Policy 10.1

Le vendredi 20 mai 2011 à 06:55 +0000, shirish शिरीष a écrit : 
> Hi all,
>       There are two different tools, dconf (for getting hardware info
> and comparing it with other systems) and the dconf-tools (which are
> for saving and manipulating desktop .configuration files) as shown
> below :-

> There seems to be though a conflict (which I don't understand why )
> between the two packages as both are different. Can somebody explain ?
> I do see the conflict line in dconf-tools
> 
> 'Conflicts: dconf'

Damn it, you’re right. This goes directly against Policy.

Leo, what do you think could be done about this? Since dconf is not a
very widespread tool, I’d appreciate if you could rename the binary -
and maybe also the package name, since it’s confusing for users who look
for GNOME-related packages and stomp on a sysadmin tool.

Cheers,
-- 
.''`.      Josselin Mouette
: :' :
`. `'
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Bug#627508; Package dconf, dconf-tools. (Sun, 19 Jun 2011 06:49:01 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #12 received at 627508@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: shirish शिरीष <shirishag75@gmail.com>
To: 627508@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org>, Debian-gnome-maint <pkg-gnome-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>, Leo Eraly <leo@unstable.be>
Subject: Re: Conflict between dconf and dconf-tools ?
Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 12:00:43 +0530
 At bottom :-

On Sat, May 21, 2011 at 16:40, Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org> wrote:
> Package: dconf, dconf-tools
> Severity: serious
> Justification: Policy 10.1
>
> Le vendredi 20 mai 2011 à 06:55 +0000, shirish शिरीष a écrit :
>> Hi all,
>>       There are two different tools, dconf (for getting hardware info
>> and comparing it with other systems) and the dconf-tools (which are
>> for saving and manipulating desktop .configuration files) as shown
>> below :-
>
>> There seems to be though a conflict (which I don't understand why )
>> between the two packages as both are different. Can somebody explain ?
>> I do see the conflict line in dconf-tools
>>
>> 'Conflicts: dconf'
>
> Damn it, you’re right. This goes directly against Policy.
>
> Leo, what do you think could be done about this? Since dconf is not a
> very widespread tool, I’d appreciate if you could rename the binary -
> and maybe also the package name, since it’s confusing for users who look
> for GNOME-related packages and stomp on a sysadmin tool.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> .''`.      Josselin Mouette
> : :' :
> `. `'
>  `-

Hi all,
 Any update on this, I just updated/upgraded an update to dconf-tools
but nothing seems to be happening with dconf :(
d-conf (0.7.5-3) unstable; urgency=low

 * Re-enable dconf-editor.

 -- Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>  Sat, 18 Jun 2011 23:11:01 +0200

Trying to install dconf still produces a conflict :-

$ sudo aptitude install dconf
[sudo] password for shirish:
The following NEW packages will be installed:
 dconf
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
Need to get 15.2 kB of archives. After unpacking 115 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 dconf-tools: Conflicts: dconf but 0.5.1-2 is to be installed.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

    Remove the following packages:
1)     dconf-tools



Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?] q
Abandoning all efforts to resolve these dependencies.
Abort.

-- 
          Regards,
          Shirish Agarwal  शिरीष अग्रवाल
  My quotes in this email licensed under CC 3.0
http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc/3.0/
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Bug#627508; Package dconf, dconf-tools. (Fri, 20 Apr 2012 17:27:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #17 received at 627508@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lionel Landwerlin <lionel.g.landwerlin@linux.intel.com>
To: 627508@bugs.debian.org
Subject: dconf: Still no update?
Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 18:14:07 +0100
Followup-For: Bug #627508
Package: dconf
Version: 0.5.1-2

Dear Maintainer,

Is there any update on this?
This is ridiculous, the package hasn't been updated in a year...

Regards,

--
Lionel Landwerlin

-- System Information:
Debian Release: wheezy/sid
  APT prefers unstable
  APT policy: (500, 'unstable'), (1, 'experimental')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_GB.utf8, LC_CTYPE=en_GB.utf8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages dconf depends on:
ii  python  2.7.2-10

dconf recommends no packages.

dconf suggests no packages.

-- no debconf information






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Bug#627508; Package dconf, dconf-tools. (Sun, 17 Jun 2012 11:39:18 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Willi Mann <willi@wm1.at>:
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Message #22 received at 627508@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Willi Mann <willi@wm1.at>
To: Dag Wieers <dag@wieers.com>
Cc: 627508@bugs.debian.org
Subject: conflicting binary path for dconf and d-conf
Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2012 13:34:16 +0200
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Hi!

Both the package dconf and d-conf with its binary package dconf-tools
ship a binary with the path /usr/bin/dconf. d-conf is a utility that
originates from gnome, and whose purpose is to manage "Desktop
Environment Settings". On the other hand, dconf is a utility to dump
certain information of a system's state (configuration?).

Although dconf probably predates d-conf, I think it is very unlikely
to get path within d-conf changed: dconf-tools is installed on more
than 10000 systems, while dconf is only installed on about 170 systems.

My recommendation is to rename the binary of dconf. Maybe the binaries
name could be changed to confdumper?

Greetings from Salzburg BSP
Willi

[1] http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=d-conf
[2] http://qa.debian.org/popcon.php?package=dconf
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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Leo Eraly <leo@unstable.be>, Debian GNOME Maintainers <pkg-gnome-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>:
Bug#627508; Package dconf, dconf-tools. (Sat, 08 Sep 2012 11:42:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Ulrich Dangel <uli@debian.org>:
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Message #27 received at 627508@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ulrich Dangel <uli@debian.org>
To: Willi Mann <willi@wm1.at>
Cc: Dag Wieers <dag@wieers.com>, Leo Eraly <leo@unstable.be>, 627508@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#627508: conflicting binary path for dconf and d-conf
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:31:44 +0100
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* Willi Mann wrote [17.06.12 12:34]:

Any progress on this? This should be a rather simple issue.

> My recommendation is to rename the binary of dconf. Maybe the binaries
> name could be changed to confdumper?

I think this would be a great proposal but from the Debian Policy:
http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html

,----
| Two different packages must not install programs with different functionality
| but with the same filenames. (The case of two programs having the same
| functionality but different implementations is handled via "alternatives" or
| the "Conflicts" mechanism. See Maintainer Scripts, Section 3.9 and Conflicting
| binary packages - Conflicts, Section 7.4 respectively.) If this case happens,
| one of the programs must be renamed. The maintainers should report this to the
| debian-devel mailing list and try to find a consensus about which program will
| have to be renamed. If a consensus cannot be reached, both programs must be
| renamed.
`----

I am not sure what happens when the maintainer does not react but maybe
the package should get removed

> Greetings from Salzburg BSP

Greetings from the Dublin BSP
Ulrich
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Bug#627508; Package dconf, dconf-tools. (Sat, 08 Sep 2012 19:24:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #32 received at 627508@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Dag Wieers <dag@wieers.com>
To: Ulrich Dangel <uli@debian.org>
Cc: Willi Mann <willi@wm1.at>, Leo Eraly <leo@unstable.be>, 627508@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#627508: conflicting binary path for dconf and d-conf
Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 21:08:47 +0200 (CEST)
On Sat, 8 Sep 2012, Ulrich Dangel wrote:

> * Willi Mann wrote [17.06.12 12:34]:
>
> Any progress on this? This should be a rather simple issue.
>
>> My recommendation is to rename the binary of dconf. Maybe the binaries
>> name could be changed to confdumper?
>
> I think this would be a great proposal but from the Debian Policy:
> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-files.html
>
> ,----
> | Two different packages must not install programs with different functionality
> | but with the same filenames. (The case of two programs having the same
> | functionality but different implementations is handled via "alternatives" or
> | the "Conflicts" mechanism. See Maintainer Scripts, Section 3.9 and Conflicting
> | binary packages - Conflicts, Section 7.4 respectively.) If this case happens,
> | one of the programs must be renamed. The maintainers should report this to the
> | debian-devel mailing list and try to find a consensus about which program will
> | have to be renamed. If a consensus cannot be reached, both programs must be
> | renamed.
> `----
>
> I am not sure what happens when the maintainer does not react but maybe
> the package should get removed

What I hate is the fact that dconf predates Gnome's project, and they 
went forward with the name anyway even though they knew about the name 
conflict. (There's a blog post from Philip Van Hoof where during the 
design phase he noted that the name dconf was already taken). I asked them 
to use another name.

-- 
-- dag wieers, dag@wieers.com, http://dag.wieers.com/
-- dagit linux solutions, info@dagit.net, http://dagit.net/

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Bug#627508; Package dconf, dconf-tools. (Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:30:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Kai Lüke <kailueke@riseup.net>:
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Message #37 received at 627508@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Kai Lüke <kailueke@riseup.net>
To: 627508@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#627508: conflicting binary path for dconf and d-conf
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 21:28:22 +0200
As far as only one file is causing the conflict, I think we would have a
possible solution without renaming the whole package.
Because confdumper doesn't start with dconf it might confuse old dconf
users. So what about dconf.py? (Yes, it's ugly.) Or maybe dconfig is better?
But this would also need renaming the "which('dconf')" part and usage
info in the python file as well as the Make file and manpage.
Any complains?
Greetings,
Kai



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Bug#627508; Package dconf, dconf-tools. (Tue, 25 Sep 2012 03:21:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #42 received at 627508@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: jw-pub@freenet.de
To: 627508@bugs.debian.org
Subject: dconf maintainer has quit
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2012 05:13:39 +0200
On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:31:44 +0100 Ulrich Dangel <uli@debian.org> wrote:

> I am not sure what happens when the maintainer does not react but maybe the
> package should get removed

I tracked down the maintainer of the package "dconf".  He said he no longer
has time for Debian and asked me to let the project know of this, so that
package should probably be marked "Orphaned".  I won't post his new mail
address here, but if you want to contact him you can easily find it by
entering his name into a popular search engine together with the string
"gmail".

-- 



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Bug#627508; Package dconf, dconf-tools. (Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:51:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #47 received at 627508@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ana Guerrero <ana@debian.org>
To: 627508@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#627508: dconf maintainer has quit
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 13:45:09 +0100
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 05:13:39AM +0200, jw-pub@freenet.de wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Sep 2012 12:31:44 +0100 Ulrich Dangel <uli@debian.org> wrote:
> 
> > I am not sure what happens when the maintainer does not react but maybe the
> > package should get removed
> 
> I tracked down the maintainer of the package "dconf".  He said he no longer
> has time for Debian and asked me to let the project know of this, so that
> package should probably be marked "Orphaned".  I won't post his new mail
> address here, but if you want to contact him you can easily find it by
> entering his name into a popular search engine together with the string
> "gmail".

The package is orphaned now:
http://bugs.debian.org/693308

Ana



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To: 344206-done@bugs.debian.org,439811-done@bugs.debian.org,439812-done@bugs.debian.org,627508-done@bugs.debian.org,632334-done@bugs.debian.org,641518-done@bugs.debian.org,684908-done@bugs.debian.org,692634-done@bugs.debian.org,693308-done@bugs.debian.org,
Cc: dconf@packages.debian.org, dconf@packages.qa.debian.org
Subject: Bug#694160: Removed package(s) from unstable
Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 21:38:38 +0000
Version: 0.5.1-2+rm

Dear submitter,

as the package dconf has just been removed from the Debian archive
unstable we hereby close the associated bug reports.  We are sorry
that we couldn't deal with your issue properly.

For details on the removal, please see http://bugs.debian.org/694160

The version of this package that was in Debian prior to this removal
can still be found using http://snapshot.debian.org/.

This message was generated automatically; if you believe that there is
a problem with it please contact the archive administrators by mailing
ftpmaster@debian.org.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Luca Falavigna (the ftpmaster behind the curtain)



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