Debian Bug report logs - #625502
O: qt-x11-free -- Qt GUI Library

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Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Ana Guerrero <ana@debian.org>

Date: Tue, 3 May 2011 22:12:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Fixed in version 3:3.3.8b-11+rm

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, ana@debian.org, debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#625502; Package wnpp. (Tue, 03 May 2011 22:12:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Ana Guerrero <ana@debian.org>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: O: qt-x11-free -- Qt GUI Library
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 00:06:54 +0200
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal


kdelibs3 was removed recently from the archive and the last tiny bit
of KDE 3 remaining, aRts, will be removed quite soon.

This means the KDE team is not longer interested in Qt3 and we are looking 
for new maintainer(s). 

More information at:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/05/msg00056.html

Adopting Qt3 require skills and time since you would have to do the upstream
work. Consider carefully this before adopting Qt3.

Ana




Added indication that bug 625502 blocks 625544 Request was from Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Wed, 04 May 2011 14:06:15 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Removed indication that bug 625502 blocks 625544 Request was from Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Wed, 04 May 2011 14:51:11 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#625502; Package wnpp. (Sat, 26 May 2012 04:03:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Jeff Licquia <licquia@debian.org>:
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Message #14 received at 625502@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jeff Licquia <licquia@debian.org>
To: Ana Guerrero <ana@debian.org>
Cc: 625502@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Inquiry re: adopting qt3
Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 23:51:10 -0400
I'd like to ask to adopt Qt 3, entirely for the sake of the LSB.  The
LSB is working on removing Qt 3, but that effort won't be ready in time
for wheezy, and I'd like for full LSB support to remain possible in Debian.

What are your thoughts?  I don't think this would take away from the
release goal of ridding Qt 3 dependencies from Debian; it would be good,
I think, to release with only LSB depending on Qt 3.  I understand it's
a C++ package of some complexity, and that I'd be responsible for
analyzing security fixes, bugs, etc. on my own without upstream support
from TrollTech.




Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#625502; Package wnpp. (Sun, 27 May 2012 11:27:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Ana Guerrero <ana@debian.org>:
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Message #19 received at 625502@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ana Guerrero <ana@debian.org>
To: Jeff Licquia <licquia@debian.org>, Didier Raboud <odyx@debian.org>
Cc: 625502@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Inquiry re: adopting qt3
Date: Sun, 27 May 2012 13:25:08 +0200
On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:51:10PM -0400, Jeff Licquia wrote:
> I'd like to ask to adopt Qt 3, entirely for the sake of the LSB.  The
> LSB is working on removing Qt 3, but that effort won't be ready in time
> for wheezy, and I'd like for full LSB support to remain possible in Debian.
> 
> What are your thoughts?  I don't think this would take away from the
> release goal of ridding Qt 3 dependencies from Debian; it would be good,
> I think, to release with only LSB depending on Qt 3.  I understand it's
> a C++ package of some complexity, and that I'd be responsible for
> analyzing security fixes, bugs, etc. on my own without upstream support
> from TrollTech.

Hi Jeff,

This might have been a good idea 1 year ago or even 6 months ago.
Then we would have had time to get a team of interested people working
on Qt3 with time to get into its inner workings.

The fact is that Qt3 rotted in the Debian archive for one year
with just QA uploads when it got in somebody's way (e.g porters 
uploads of Aurelien Jarno). This was a strong sign that it
was better to remove the package. I started to work on the removal 
and things have been going smoothly, with  about 80% of the work done.
This has taken a significant amount of my time and others (developers,
ftp-masters, etc). At this point, nominal LSB compliance is not a good
reason to keep Qt3. Interested parties can always download it from 
snapshot.debian.org

Today we are 2-3 weeks away from the wheezy freeze, and there's no time to
get a team of people working on Qt3 with enough knowledge of the internals
who can commit to this task for the next 3 years (or more).
More importantly, maintaining any package that you won't be using
is _never_ a good idea and in this case, you would even have to be
upstream for it!

I suggest we work on documenting how to get Qt3 from snapshots.debian.org
If somebody wants to install Qt3 will have easy instructions to get it and 
they will be fully aware it is not supported anymore.

Ana





Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#625502; Package wnpp. (Mon, 28 May 2012 13:24:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Didier Raboud <odyx@debian.org>:
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Message #24 received at 625502@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Didier Raboud <odyx@debian.org>
To: 604360@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Jeff Licquia <licquia@debian.org>, Ana Guerrero <ana@debian.org>, 625502@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#604360: Re: Bug#604360: Preparations for the removal of the KDE3 and Qt3 libraries
Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 15:21:30 +0200
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Hi people, 

answering to both the Qt3 orphaning bug (#625502) and the LSB drop-qt3-
dependency bug (#604360);

Le vendredi, 2 mars 2012 10.02:52, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud a écrit :
> Le 23.02.2012 18:54, Jeff Licquia a écrit :
> > On 02/23/2012 09:31 AM, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote:
> >> Given that LSB has deprecated the use of Qt3 libraries since its 3.2
> >> version, I propose to demote the relationship on libqt3-mt from Depends
> >> to Recommends.
> > 
> > I would definitely not go that far, at least not yet.  Qt 3 is
> > deprecated, yes, but definitely still required for full LSB support.
> > 
> > LSB 5.0 (currently in development) will drop Qt 3.  At that point, the
> > dependency can be dropped entirely.

Le dimanche, 27 mai 2012 13.25:08, Ana Guerrero a écrit :
> I suggest we work on documenting how to get Qt3 from snapshots.debian.org
> If somebody wants to install Qt3 will have easy instructions to get it and
> they will be fully aware it is not supported anymore.

I have just prepared that (rather minimal) documentation on the "qt3_drop" 
branch on the LSB packaging repository:

http://anonscm.debian.org/gitweb/?p=collab-
maint/lsb.git;a=commitdiff;h=qt3_drop

Comments welcome. That said, I plan to have lsb 4.1+Debian5 out with some 
fixes (from the master branch); the dropping of Qt would happen in the next 
release, sometimes in June (in sync with the Qt3 drop, might it happen).

Cheers,

OdyX
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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#625502; Package wnpp. (Fri, 08 Jun 2012 11:45:17 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Bruce Robson <bns_robson@hotmail.com>:
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Message #29 received at 625502@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Bruce Robson <bns_robson@hotmail.com>
To: 625502@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Inquiry re: adopting qt3
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2012 08:27:11 +0100
The Trinity Desktop (continuation of KDE 3) project state that
they have taken over maintenance of Qt3 from Nokia/Trolltech.
http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13#Qt3





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Message #34 received at 625502-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Debian FTP Masters <ftpmaster@ftp-master.debian.org>
To: 209288-done@bugs.debian.org,214319-done@bugs.debian.org,238833-done@bugs.debian.org,314522-done@bugs.debian.org,328157-done@bugs.debian.org,328940-done@bugs.debian.org,337285-done@bugs.debian.org,350497-done@bugs.debian.org,363150-done@bugs.debian.org,405114-done@bugs.debian.org,409953-done@bugs.debian.org,410642-done@bugs.debian.org,437053-done@bugs.debian.org,448005-done@bugs.debian.org,451794-done@bugs.debian.org,453141-done@bugs.debian.org,494489-done@bugs.debian.org,502559-done@bugs.debian.org,519043-done@bugs.debian.org,529435-done@bugs.debian.org,556861-done@bugs.debian.org,600282-done@bugs.debian.org,631451-done@bugs.debian.org,648132-done@bugs.debian.org,662483-done@bugs.debian.org,676901-done@bugs.debian.org,625502-done@bugs.debian.org,
Cc: qt-x11-free@packages.debian.org, qt-x11-free@packages.qa.debian.org
Subject: Bug#678210: Removed package(s) from unstable
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 11:03:14 +0000
Version: 3:3.3.8b-11+rm

Dear submitter,

as the package qt-x11-free has just been removed from the Debian archive
unstable we hereby close the associated bug reports.  We are sorry
that we couldn't deal with your issue properly.

For details on the removal, please see http://bugs.debian.org/678210

The version of this package that was in Debian prior to this removal
can still be found using http://snapshot.debian.org/.

This message was generated automatically; if you believe that there is
a problem with it please contact the archive administrators by mailing
ftpmaster@debian.org.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Alexander Reichle-Schmehl (the ftpmaster behind the curtain)




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