Debian Bug report logs - #620957
RFP: frandom: kernel module for generating PRNG data

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Ruben <spamered@hotmail.com>

Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 11:57:02 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Done: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org:
Bug#620957; Package general. (Tue, 05 Apr 2011 11:57:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Ruben <spamered@hotmail.com>:
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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ruben <spamered@hotmail.com>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: general: Would you be so kind to include Frandom in the Debian Repositories?
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 13:46:31 +0200
Package: general
Severity: wishlist

Hello.

I would like to see Frandom in the Debian repositories. Frandom is a kernel
module for pseudo-random data generation, much as random and urandom, but works
incredibly fast.

It is currently unmantained. However, is still usefull.  You can have a look in
http://www.billauer.co.il/frandom.html for more information.



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Message #10 received at 620957-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
To: 620957-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#620957: general: Would you be so kind to include Frandom in the Debian Repositories?
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 13:32:40 +0100
On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 01:46:31PM +0200, Ruben wrote:
> Package: general
> Severity: wishlist

The proper package is 'wnpp'.

> Hello.
> 
> I would like to see Frandom in the Debian repositories. Frandom is a kernel
> module for pseudo-random data generation, much as random and urandom, but works
> incredibly fast.
[...]

There is no reason for this to be a kernel module.

Ben.

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Bug#620957; Package general. (Tue, 05 Apr 2011 23:51:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #15 received at 620957@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ben Finney <ben+debian@benfinney.id.au>
To: Ruben <spamered@hotmail.com>, 620957@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Debian BTS control <control@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#620957: general: Would you be so kind to include Frandom in the Debian Repositories?
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 09:41:51 +1000
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reassign 620957 wnpp
retitle 620957 RFP: frandom: kernel module for generating PRNG data
thanks

On 05-Apr-2011, Ruben wrote:

> I would like to see Frandom in the Debian repositories. Frandom is a
> kernel module for pseudo-random data generation, much as random and
> urandom, but works incredibly fast.

Thank you for your request, and for a brief description of the
package. The correct procedure for such requests is a “Request For
Package” (RFP), assigned against the ‘wnpp’ pseudo-package.

The next step is to interest someone (maybe you?) to become the
maintainer for that package in Debian, and to do the work of getting
it packaged and accepted.

I have changed this report accordingly. Thank you for your interest in
improving Debian.

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Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'wnpp'. Request was from Ben Finney <ben+debian@benfinney.id.au> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Tue, 05 Apr 2011 23:51:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Changed Bug title to 'RFP: frandom: kernel module for generating PRNG data' from 'general: Would you be so kind to include Frandom in the Debian Repositories?' Request was from Ben Finney <ben+debian@benfinney.id.au> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Tue, 05 Apr 2011 23:51:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#620957; Package wnpp. (Wed, 06 Apr 2011 00:03:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>:
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Message #24 received at 620957@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
To: Ben Finney <ben+debian@benfinney.id.au>, 620957@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Ruben <spamered@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Bug#620957: general: Would you be so kind to include Frandom in the Debian Repositories?
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 01:00:52 +0100
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On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 09:41 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> reassign 620957 wnpp
> retitle 620957 RFP: frandom: kernel module for generating PRNG data
> thanks
> 
> On 05-Apr-2011, Ruben wrote:
> 
> > I would like to see Frandom in the Debian repositories. Frandom is a
> > kernel module for pseudo-random data generation, much as random and
> > urandom, but works incredibly fast.
> 
> Thank you for your request, and for a brief description of the
> package. The correct procedure for such requests is a “Request For
> Package” (RFP), assigned against the ‘wnpp’ pseudo-package.
> 
> The next step is to interest someone (maybe you?) to become the
> maintainer for that package in Debian, and to do the work of getting
> it packaged and accepted.
> 
> I have changed this report accordingly. Thank you for your interest in
> improving Debian.

Please don't encourage this kind of crap!

Ben.

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Ben Hutchings
Once a job is fouled up, anything done to improve it makes it worse.
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Bug#620957; Package wnpp. (Wed, 06 Apr 2011 00:03:07 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Bryan Donlan <bdonlan@gmail.com>:
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Message #29 received at 620957@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Bryan Donlan <bdonlan@gmail.com>
To: Ruben <spamered@hotmail.com>, 620957@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#620957: general: Would you be so kind to include Frandom in the Debian Repositories?
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 20:01:25 -0400
On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 07:46, Ruben <spamered@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Package: general
> Severity: wishlist
>
> Hello.
>
> I would like to see Frandom in the Debian repositories. Frandom is a kernel
> module for pseudo-random data generation, much as random and urandom, but works
> incredibly fast.
>
> It is currently unmantained. However, is still usefull.  You can have a look in
> http://www.billauer.co.il/frandom.html for more information.

All this module seems to do is grab some data from /dev/urandom and
use it as a key for an RC4 generator. While it's a nice project to
learn about kernel APIs, why should this be in the kernel, widening
the kernel attack surface and thus giving the security team more work,
when it can be in a userspace application or library just as easily?




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Bug#620957; Package wnpp. (Wed, 06 Apr 2011 02:21:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #34 received at 620957@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ben Finney <ben+debian@benfinney.id.au>
To: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
Cc: 620957@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#620957: general: Would you be so kind to include Frandom in the Debian Repositories?
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 12:16:40 +1000
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On 06-Apr-2011, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> Please don't encourage this kind of crap!

I'm open to the likelihood that I did something wrong, but what in
particular are you objecting to?

Reporting such requests against ‘general’ should not be encouraged?

Reporting requests for kernel module packages should not be
encouraged?

Something else?

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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#620957; Package wnpp. (Wed, 06 Apr 2011 02:33:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>:
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Message #39 received at 620957@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
To: Ben Finney <ben+debian@benfinney.id.au>
Cc: 620957@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#620957: general: Would you be so kind to include Frandom in the Debian Repositories?
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 03:31:28 +0100
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On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 12:16 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> On 06-Apr-2011, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> > Please don't encourage this kind of crap!
> 
> I'm open to the likelihood that I did something wrong, but what in
> particular are you objecting to?
> 
> Reporting such requests against ‘general’ should not be encouraged?
> 
> Reporting requests for kernel module packages should not be
> encouraged?

In general yes.  And in particular, this module duplicates existing
functionality (but with reduced security) and could presumably be
implemented in userspace.

Ben.

> Something else?
> 

-- 
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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#620957; Package wnpp. (Wed, 06 Apr 2011 03:33:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Ben Finney <ben+debian@benfinney.id.au>:
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Message #44 received at 620957@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ben Finney <ben+debian@benfinney.id.au>
To: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
Cc: 620957@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#620957: general: Would you be so kind to include Frandom in the Debian Repositories?
Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2011 13:29:25 +1000
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On 06-Apr-2011, Ben Hutchings wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-04-06 at 12:16 +1000, Ben Finney wrote:

> > Reporting requests for kernel module packages should not be
> > encouraged?
> 
> In general yes.  And in particular, this module duplicates existing
> functionality (but with reduced security) and could presumably be
> implemented in userspace.

Okay. I can't say that the same thing won't happen again, then; I was
responding only to the mis-filed report, independent of any
consideration of the software to which the report referred.

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