Debian Bug report logs - #620808
RFP: payyans -- A python utility to convert between ASCII and Unicode.

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Dhananjay <mb.dhananjay@gmail.com>

Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 10:33:02 UTC

Severity: wishlist

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From: Dhananjay <mb.dhananjay@gmail.com>
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
Subject: ITP: payyans -- A python utility to convert between ASCII and Unicode.
Date: Mon, 04 Apr 2011 15:58:43 +0530
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

An ASCII to unicode conversion utility.

Package name: payyans
Version: latest
Upstream Authors:Santhosh Thottingal, Nishan Naseer, Rajeesh K Nambiar
  <santhosh.thottingal@gmail.com, nishan.naseer@gmail.com, 
Rajesh Nambiar <rajeeshknambiar@gmail.com>

URL: http://wiki.smc.org.in/Payyans
License: GPL
Description:Payyans is a python program to convert the data written
for ascii fonts in ascii format to the Unicode format.





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From: Adam Borowski <kilobyte@angband.pl>
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, 620808@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#620808: ITP: payyans -- A python utility to convert between ASCII and Unicode.
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 14:27:19 +0200
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 03:58:43PM +0530, Dhananjay wrote:
> An ASCII to unicode conversion utility.
> 
> Package name: payyans
> URL: http://wiki.smc.org.in/Payyans
> Description:Payyans is a python program to convert the data written
> for ascii fonts in ascii format to the Unicode format.

Uhm, but Debian already contains an ASCII->Unicode converter.  It's called
"cat".  There's also an in-place version, /bin/true.  This assumes UTF-8,
but other Unicode encodings are not supported in a vast majority of tools
anyway, and iconv can handle them.

What payyans seems to do is converting from some other encoding where for
example the octet 65 (0x41) doesn't mean "A" but "അ", 66 is "ക" and so on.
This is definitely not ASCII; it's about as close to it as to EBCDIC.

-- 
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		//	Never attribute to stupidity what can be
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From: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, 620808@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#620808: ITP: payyans -- A python utility to convert between ASCII and Unicode.
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 16:03:51 +0100
On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 02:27:19PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 04, 2011 at 03:58:43PM +0530, Dhananjay wrote:
> > An ASCII to unicode conversion utility.
> > 
> > Package name: payyans
> > URL: http://wiki.smc.org.in/Payyans
> > Description:Payyans is a python program to convert the data written
> > for ascii fonts in ascii format to the Unicode format.
> 
> Uhm, but Debian already contains an ASCII->Unicode converter.  It's called
> "cat".  There's also an in-place version, /bin/true.  This assumes UTF-8,
> but other Unicode encodings are not supported in a vast majority of tools
> anyway, and iconv can handle them.
> 
> What payyans seems to do is converting from some other encoding where for
> example the octet 65 (0x41) doesn't mean "A" but "അ", 66 is "ക" and so on.
> This is definitely not ASCII; it's about as close to it as to EBCDIC.

And we already have the 'iconv' and 'recode' commands to do conversion
between arbitrary character encodings.

Ben.

-- 
Ben Hutchings
We get into the habit of living before acquiring the habit of thinking.
                                                              - Albert Camus




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From: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, 620808@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#620808: ITP: payyans -- A python utility to convert between ASCII and Unicode.
Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 09:41:27 +0800
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> wrote:

> And we already have the 'iconv' and 'recode' commands to do conversion
> between arbitrary character encodings.

These are not character encodings, but specific fonts. See the
khmerconverter ITP for some earlier discussion on this:

http://bugs.debian.org/333331#33

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pabs

http://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise




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From: Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>
To: Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org>
Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, 620808@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#620808: ITP: payyans -- A python utility to convert between ASCII and Unicode.
Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 11:44:52 +0100
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On Tue, 2011-04-05 at 09:41 +0800, Paul Wise wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:03 PM, Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> > And we already have the 'iconv' and 'recode' commands to do conversion
> > between arbitrary character encodings.
> 
> These are not character encodings, but specific fonts. See the
> khmerconverter ITP for some earlier discussion on this:
> 
> http://bugs.debian.org/333331#33

I was thinking that these are ad hoc character encodings defined on the
basis of specific fonts.  (Like Dingbats, for example.)

However, encoding in LTR order even through the script is read RTL
really does seem to make these graphical representations rather than
character encodings.

Ben.

-- 
Ben Hutchings
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Message #30 received at 620808@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: jidanni@jidanni.org
To: ben@decadent.org.uk
Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, 620808@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#620808: ITP: payyans -- A python utility to convert between ASCII and Unicode.
Date: Thu, 07 Apr 2011 10:38:47 +0800
Also note the uni2ascii package.




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From: dhananjay <mb.dhananjay@gmail.com>
To: jidanni@jidanni.org
Cc: ben@decadent.org.uk, debian-devel@lists.debian.org, 620808@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#620808: ITP: payyans -- A python utility to convert between ASCII and Unicode.
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 07:55:53 +0530
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Sorry about making the mistake and been in silence for a while, it is my
first ITP request.

Payyans is written to convert documents prepared in malayalam ( An indic
language used in Kerala, India) using ASCII maps to Unicode. Provided with
mapping files which informs payyans about the font mappings used, it should
work with any indic language to address same problem.

On 7 April 2011 08:08, <jidanni@jidanni.org> wrote:

> Also note the uni2ascii package.
>
>
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Dhananjay.
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From: jidanni@jidanni.org
To: mb.dhananjay@gmail.com
Cc: 620808@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#620808: ITP: payyans -- A python utility to convert between ASCII and Unicode.
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 10:29:44 +0800
>>>>> "d" == dhananjay  <mb.dhananjay@gmail.com> writes:
d> Payyans is written to convert documents prepared in malayalam ( An indic language used in Kerala, India) using ASCII maps
d> to Unicode. Provided with mapping files which informs payyans about the font mappings used, it should work with any indic
d> language to address same problem.
OK be sure to mention that at the top of the Description etc. etc.




Owner recorded as Dhananjay <mb.dhananjay@gmail.com>. Request was from Bart Martens <bartm@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Thu, 07 Jun 2012 22:21:22 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org>
To: 620808@bugs.debian.org
Cc: control@bugs.debian.org
Subject: payyans: changing back from ITP to RFP
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 18:58:55 +0200
retitle 620808 RFP: payyans -- A python utility to convert between ASCII and Unicode.
noowner 620808
tag 620808 - pending
thanks

Hi,

A long time ago, you expressed interest in packaging payyans. Unfortunately,
it seems that it did not happen. In Debian, we try not to keep ITP bugs open
for a too long time, as it might cause other prospective maintainers to
refrain from packaging the software.

This is an automatic email to change the status of payyans back from ITP
(Intent to Package) to RFP (Request for Package), because this bug hasn't seen
any activity during the last 14 months.

If you are still interested in packaging payyans, please send a mail to
<control@bugs.debian.org> with:

 retitle 620808 ITP: payyans -- A python utility to convert between ASCII and Unicode.
 owner 620808 !
 thanks

It is also a good idea to document your progress on this ITP from time to
time, by mailing <620808@bugs.debian.org>.  If you need guidance on how to
package this software, please reply to this email, and/or contact the
debian-mentors@lists.debian.org mailing list.

Thank you for your interest in Debian,
-- 
Lucas, for the QA team <debian-qa@lists.debian.org>



Changed Bug title to 'RFP: payyans -- A python utility to convert between ASCII and Unicode.' from 'ITP: payyans -- A python utility to convert between ASCII and Unicode.' Request was from Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Fri, 16 Aug 2013 17:13:58 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Removed annotation that Bug was owned by Dhananjay <mb.dhananjay@gmail.com>. Request was from Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Fri, 16 Aug 2013 17:13:59 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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