Debian Bug report logs - #619177
Please mention that as of squeeze/6.0.1 XF86Config is not used anymore

Package: release-notes; Maintainer for release-notes is Debian Documentation Team <debian-doc@lists.debian.org>;

Reported by: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>

Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 20:15:02 UTC

Severity: wishlist

Tags: patch

Done: Joost van Baal-Ilić <joostvb-debian-20130124-9@mdcc.cx>

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Bug#619177; Package release-notes. (Mon, 21 Mar 2011 20:15:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Please mention that as of squeeze/6.0.1 XF86Config is not used anymore
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 22:13:23 +0200
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Package: release-notes
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On Lu, 21 mar 11, 14:27:11, Mark Goldshtein wrote:
> >
> >  xorg-server (2:1.7.7-12) unstable; urgency=low
> >  [...]
> >    * Add 22-stop-searching-for-xf86config-files, cherry-picking the
> >      upstream commit below (which we can't do directly since it depends on
> >      a patch kept in the quilt series: 08-config-xorg-conf-d.diff), so that
> >      XF86Config-4 is no longer considered (Closes: #610453). Thanks,
> >      Bernhard R. Link!
> >      - Stop searching for XF86Config files
> >
> > This change is briefly mentioned in the 6.0.1 news release.
> 
> >From a point of view of an average user, I think it may be useful to
> warn about such critical changes right after  # apt-get dist-upgrade
> command output, as it shows a list of packages marked to change,
> before yes/no confirmation.

The "critical change" you refer to happened with the release of etch, 
when XFree86 was replaced with Xorg ;) but maybe this warrants a mention 
in the squeeze release notes.

Dear Release Notes editors,
If this is worth including I can try to come up with a patch.

Regards,
Andrei
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Bug#619177; Package release-notes. (Mon, 21 Mar 2011 20:33:07 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>:
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Message #10 received at 619177@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>
To: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>, 619177@bugs.debian.org
Cc: debian-x@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#619177: Please mention that as of squeeze/6.0.1 XF86Config is not used anymore
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:32:11 +0100
On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 22:13:23 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:

> On Lu, 21 mar 11, 14:27:11, Mark Goldshtein wrote:
> > >
> > >  xorg-server (2:1.7.7-12) unstable; urgency=low
> > >  [...]
> > >    * Add 22-stop-searching-for-xf86config-files, cherry-picking the
> > >      upstream commit below (which we can't do directly since it depends on
> > >      a patch kept in the quilt series: 08-config-xorg-conf-d.diff), so that
> > >      XF86Config-4 is no longer considered (Closes: #610453). Thanks,
> > >      Bernhard R. Link!
> > >      - Stop searching for XF86Config files
> > >
> > > This change is briefly mentioned in the 6.0.1 news release.
> > 
> > >From a point of view of an average user, I think it may be useful to
> > warn about such critical changes right after  # apt-get dist-upgrade
> > command output, as it shows a list of packages marked to change,
> > before yes/no confirmation.
> 
> The "critical change" you refer to happened with the release of etch, 
> when XFree86 was replaced with Xorg ;) but maybe this warrants a mention 
> in the squeeze release notes.
> 
> Dear Release Notes editors,
> If this is worth including I can try to come up with a patch.
> 
Maybe xserver-xorg-core's NEWS.Debian would be more appropriate, if
anything?

I was bitten by the fact that X in 6.0.0 *did* look at XF86Config
because I moved xorg.conf away after the upgrade, and the old XF86Config
leftover from sarge days made X fail to restart.  I didn't expect that
people still willfully used XF86Config.

Cheers,
Julien




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Bug#619177; Package release-notes. (Mon, 28 Mar 2011 22:57:12 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <jfs@computer.org>:
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Message #15 received at 619177@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña <jfs@computer.org>
To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>, 619177@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>, debian-x@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#619177: Please mention that as of squeeze/6.0.1 XF86Config is not used anymore
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 00:54:10 +0200
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On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:32:11PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote:
> I was bitten by the fact that X in 6.0.0 *did* look at XF86Config
> because I moved xorg.conf away after the upgrade, and the old XF86Config
> leftover from sarge days made X fail to restart.  I didn't expect that
> people still willfully used XF86Config.

Maybe it would be better to have  a more generic note suggesting people to
remove old configuration files (such as .dpkg-{new,old} files) from the
system under the "Appendix A. Managing your lenny system before the upgrade"
section. In there we could list some obsolete configuration files to be
removed before the upgrade (such as this one).


Regards

Javier
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Bug#619177; Package release-notes. (Thu, 24 Jan 2013 02:21:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #20 received at 619177@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Joost van Baal-Ilić <joostvb-debian-20130124-9@mdcc.cx>
To: 619177@bugs.debian.org, control@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#619177: release-notes: Please mention that as of squeeze/6.0.1 XF86Config is not used anymore
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 03:18:51 +0100
tags 619177 +patch
thanks

Hi,

How about this?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Index: old-stuff.dbk
===================================================================
--- old-stuff.dbk       (revision 9543)
+++ old-stuff.dbk       (working copy)
@@ -73,6 +73,19 @@
 </para>
 </section>
 
+<section id="old-config">
+<title>Removing obsolete configuration files</title>
+<para>
+Before upgrading your system to &releasename;, it is recommended to remove old
+configuration files (such as <filename>*.dpkg-{new,old}</filename> files under
+<filename>/etc</filename>, as well as the file
+<filename>/etc/X11/XF86Config-4</filename><footnote><para>Since release
+2:1.7.7-12, xorg-server no longer reads the file XF86Config-4.  See also <ulink
+url="http://bugs.debian.org/619177">#619177</ulink>.</footnote></para>) from
+the system.
+</para>
+</section>
+
 <section id="switch-utf8">
 
 <title>Upgrade legacy locales to UTF-8</title>

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Bye,

Joost

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intuitive, because you only need to learn 5000 commands, and then
everything else follows from that! Har har har!"
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Added tag(s) patch. Request was from Joost van Baal-Ilić <joostvb-debian-20130124-9@mdcc.cx> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Thu, 24 Jan 2013 02:21:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Reply sent to Joost van Baal-Ilić <joostvb-debian-20130124-9@mdcc.cx>:
You have taken responsibility. (Sat, 26 Jan 2013 13:15:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Notification sent to Andrei Popescu <andreimpopescu@gmail.com>:
Bug acknowledged by developer. (Sat, 26 Jan 2013 13:15:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #27 received at 619177-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Joost van Baal-Ilić <joostvb-debian-20130124-9@mdcc.cx>
To: 619177-close@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#619177: release-notes: Please mention that as of squeeze/6.0.1 XF86Config is not used anymore
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:14:16 +0100
Hi,

Just commited suggested patch.

Bye,

Joost


On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 03:18:51AM +0100, Joost van Baal-Ilić wrote:
> tags 619177 +patch
> thanks
> 
> Hi,
> 
> How about this?
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Index: old-stuff.dbk
> ===================================================================
> --- old-stuff.dbk       (revision 9543)
> +++ old-stuff.dbk       (working copy)
> @@ -73,6 +73,19 @@
>  </para>
>  </section>
>  
> +<section id="old-config">
> +<title>Removing obsolete configuration files</title>
> +<para>
> +Before upgrading your system to &releasename;, it is recommended to remove old
> +configuration files (such as <filename>*.dpkg-{new,old}</filename> files under
> +<filename>/etc</filename>, as well as the file
> +<filename>/etc/X11/XF86Config-4</filename><footnote><para>Since release
> +2:1.7.7-12, xorg-server no longer reads the file XF86Config-4.  See also <ulink
> +url="http://bugs.debian.org/619177">#619177</ulink>.</footnote></para>) from
> +the system.
> +</para>
> +</section>
> +
>  <section id="switch-utf8">
>  
>  <title>Upgrade legacy locales to UTF-8</title>
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 



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