Debian Bug report logs - #611660
RFP: tomb -- crypto undertaker

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Jaromil <jaromil@dyne.org>

Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:33:01 UTC

Severity: wishlist

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From: Jaromil <jaromil@dyne.org>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: ITP: tomb -- crypto undertaker
Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 19:30:12 +0100
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Denis Roio <jaromil@dyne.org>


* Package name    : tomb
  Version         : 0.9.0
  Upstream Author : Denis Roio <jaromil@dyne.org>
* URL             : http://tomb.dyne.org/
* License         : GPLv3
  Programming Lang: C, Shell
  Description     : crypto undertaker

Tomb is a free and easy to operate desktop application for fairly
strong encryption of personal files. A tomb is like a locked folder
that can be transported and hidden in filesystems; its keys are
password protected and can be kept separate, for instance keeping the
tomb file in your computer's harddisk and the key file on a USB stick.





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From: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org>
To: Jaromil <jaromil@dyne.org>, 611660@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#611660: ITP: tomb -- crypto undertaker
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:44:52 -0200
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011, Jaromil wrote:
>   Programming Lang: C, Shell
>   Description     : crypto undertaker
> 
> Tomb is a free and easy to operate desktop application for fairly
> strong encryption of personal files. A tomb is like a locked folder
> that can be transported and hidden in filesystems; its keys are
> password protected and can be kept separate, for instance keeping the
> tomb file in your computer's harddisk and the key file on a USB stick.

What is the crypto backend?  This is of extreme importance, and should
be listed on the description.

-- 
  "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh




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From: Jaromil <jaromil@dyne.org>
To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org>, 611660@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#611660: ITP: tomb -- crypto undertaker
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:11:15 +0100
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hi Henrique,

On Tue, 01 Feb 2011, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote:
> > Tomb is a free and easy to operate desktop application for fairly
> > strong encryption of personal files. A tomb is like a locked folder
> > that can be transported and hidden in filesystems; its keys are
> > password protected and can be kept separate, for instance keeping the
> > tomb file in your computer's harddisk and the key file on a USB stick.
> 
> What is the crypto backend?  This is of extreme importance, and should
> be listed on the description.

thanks for your pointer. I've now appended the text below to the
package description:

 Tomb relies on dm-crypt (and cryptsetup) as an encryption backend
 using the aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 cypher.

will standby for more feedback and include this modification in 0.9-2

ciao


- -- 
jaromil, dyne.org developer, http://jaromil.dyne.org

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Message #20 received at 611660@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: bertagaz@ptitcanardnoir.org
To: 611660@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: ITP: tomb -- crypto undertaker
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2012 17:43:05 +0200
Hi,

Any news on this? I see there is a debian/ directory in the upstream repo
(btw, a dedicated branch for Debian packaging is a better option). Is
peer-review needed?

bert.



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Message #25 received at 611660@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: "Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS)" <gcs@debian.hu>
To: Jaromil <jaromil@dyne.org>, 611660@bugs.debian.org
Cc: bertagaz@ptitcanardnoir.org
Subject: tomb vs cryptmount
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 18:24:41 +0000
Hi,

Without too much reading, it seems tomb and cryptmount somewhat similar.
The latter is already in the archives and stable. What's the most
important differences (if any)?

Laszlo/GCS




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From: bertagaz@ptitcanardnoir.org
To: "Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS)" <gcs@debian.hu>, 611660@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Jaromil <jaromil@dyne.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#611660: tomb vs cryptmount
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 13:03:37 +0200
On Mon, Aug 06, 2012 at 06:24:41PM +0000, Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS) wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Without too much reading, it seems tomb and cryptmount somewhat similar.
> The latter is already in the archives and stable. What's the most
> important differences (if any)?

I'd say that one of the most important difference is the use of the
steghide tool to hide access keys in an image. Also Tomb has some Gtk
integration. I don't know cryptmount, so I can't say much, would need to
read more. Thanks for the pointer.

However there are plenty of softwares in the Debian archive that provide
almost the same features, so I'm not sure to get the point of this
question.

bert.



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From: "Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS)" <gcs@debian.hu>
To: bertagaz@ptitcanardnoir.org
Cc: 611660@bugs.debian.org, Jaromil <jaromil@dyne.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#611660: tomb vs cryptmount
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 12:00:59 +0000
Hi Bert,

On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 13:03 +0200, bertagaz@ptitcanardnoir.org wrote:
> I'd say that one of the most important difference is the use of the
> steghide tool to hide access keys in an image. Also Tomb has some Gtk
> integration.
 The steghide sounds good!

> However there are plenty of softwares in the Debian archive that provide
> almost the same features, so I'm not sure to get the point of this
> question.
 Some DDs would argue, as this is not the optimal state. There are a
_lot of_ packages in Debian, but not all of them maintained correctly.
Smaller number but more competent packages would help in general. Better
packaging, easier to write HOWTOs for a specific task and so on.

But to stay on topic, the question was more user oriented this time. I
use and like cryptmount and I like CLI applications better. On the other
hand, if tomb is better in many ways, I may migrate to it.
Will do my tests then. About to create a package of tomb first.

Laszlo/GCS




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From: bertagaz@ptitcanardnoir.org
To: "Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS)" <gcs@debian.hu>, 611660@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Jaromil <jaromil@dyne.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#611660: tomb vs cryptmount
Date: Tue, 7 Aug 2012 14:20:12 +0200
On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 12:00:59PM +0000, Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS) wrote:
> Hi Bert,
> 
> On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 13:03 +0200, bertagaz@ptitcanardnoir.org wrote:
> > I'd say that one of the most important difference is the use of the
> > steghide tool to hide access keys in an image. Also Tomb has some Gtk
> > integration.
>  The steghide sounds good!
> 
> > However there are plenty of softwares in the Debian archive that provide
> > almost the same features, so I'm not sure to get the point of this
> > question.
>  Some DDs would argue, as this is not the optimal state. There are a
> _lot of_ packages in Debian, but not all of them maintained correctly.
> Smaller number but more competent packages would help in general. Better
> packaging, easier to write HOWTOs for a specific task and so on.

You make a point. If I asked for the status of this packaging, it's
because I was willing to stand up for maintaining it if no one was
wiling to do so.

> But to stay on topic, the question was more user oriented this time. I
> use and like cryptmount and I like CLI applications better. On the other
> hand, if tomb is better in many ways, I may migrate to it.
> Will do my tests then. About to create a package of tomb first.

Great, don't hesitate to tell me what you think about it, I'm curious too.
Upstream already did some packaging work in its debian0 branch. Also if
you need any help, I'd be glad to. Including co-maintaining it if you're
willing to include it in Debian.

bert.



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From: "Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS)" <gcs@debian.hu>
To: bertagaz@ptitcanardnoir.org
Cc: 611660@bugs.debian.org, Jaromil <jaromil@dyne.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#611660: tomb vs cryptmount
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2012 22:52:09 +0000
Hi Bert,

On Tue, 2012-08-07 at 14:20 +0200, bertagaz@ptitcanardnoir.org wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 07, 2012 at 12:00:59PM +0000, Laszlo Boszormenyi (GCS) wrote:
> You make a point. If I asked for the status of this packaging, it's
> because I was willing to stand up for maintaining it if no one was
> wiling to do so.
 I've packaged it and it's ready to upload. After reconsider everything,
I say just drop it. Two shell scripts for a package simply doesn't worth
it IMHO. Especially that both are zsh specific (the user have to install
zsh to run them) and it needs root rights. This can break anytime a
called binary changes it's command line flags or differ in its output.

> Great, don't hesitate to tell me what you think about it, I'm curious too.
> Upstream already did some packaging work in its debian0 branch. Also if
> you need any help, I'd be glad to. Including co-maintaining it if you're
> willing to include it in Debian.
 God forbid, but even if I upload it, I think two shell scripts don't
worth more than one maintainer. I say cryptmount should be used instead.
They differ in several ways, but it is a much better solution in
general.

Sorry for the noise,
Laszlo/GCS




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From: Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org>
To: 611660@bugs.debian.org
Cc: control@bugs.debian.org
Subject: tomb: changing back from ITP to RFP
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2013 09:06:07 +0200
retitle 611660 RFP: tomb -- crypto undertaker
noowner 611660
tag 611660 - pending
thanks

Hi,

A long time ago, you expressed interest in packaging tomb. Unfortunately,
it seems that it did not happen. In Debian, we try not to keep ITP bugs open
for a too long time, as it might cause other prospective maintainers to
refrain from packaging the software.

This is an automatic email to change the status of tomb back from ITP
(Intent to Package) to RFP (Request for Package), because this bug hasn't seen
any activity during the last 12 months.

If you are still interested in packaging tomb, please send a mail to
<control@bugs.debian.org> with:

 retitle 611660 ITP: tomb -- crypto undertaker
 owner 611660 !
 thanks

It is also a good idea to document your progress on this ITP from time to
time, by mailing <611660@bugs.debian.org>.  If you need guidance on how to
package this software, please reply to this email, and/or contact the
debian-mentors@lists.debian.org mailing list.

Thank you for your interest in Debian,
-- 
Lucas, for the QA team <debian-qa@lists.debian.org>



Changed Bug title to 'RFP: tomb -- crypto undertaker' from 'ITP: tomb -- crypto undertaker' Request was from Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Sat, 17 Aug 2013 07:11:17 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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