Debian Bug report logs - #609352
RFP: zdoom -- Enhanced Doom engine

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Johey Shmit <joheyshmit@yahoo.com>

Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 20:03:01 UTC

Severity: wishlist

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Bug#609352; Package wnpp. (Sat, 08 Jan 2011 20:03:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Johey Shmit <joheyshmit@yahoo.com>
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
Subject: ITP: zdoom -- Enhanced Doom engine
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 20:01:03 +0000 (GMT)
Package: wnpp
Severity:wishlist


* Package name    : zdoom
  Version         : 2.5.0
  Upstream Author : Randy Heit
* URL             : http://zdoom.org
  Description     : Enhanced Doom engine

* License         : ZDoom may be used and distributed free of charge. No profit 
may be made from the sale of it






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Bug#609352; Package wnpp. (Tue, 14 Jun 2011 06:27:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Fabian Greffrath <fabian@greffrath.com>
To: pkg-games-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org
Cc: 609352@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: RFS: zdoom
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2011 08:23:56 +0200
Am 11.06.2011 16:54, schrieb Johey Shmit:
>    I've put it in contrib because it depends on a non-free library from
>    www.fmod.org which will be downloaded on the fly during the build process.

And then the binary built against this non-free library will be 
distributed? Sorry, but I don't hink this will work!

>   The zdoom-engine is capable of running some doom style games that
>   the prboom-engine can not (like heretic, hexen and strife).

AFAICT, Fedora uses the vavoom engine to play the doom-like non-doom 
games you mentioned.

 - Fabian




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Bug#609352; Package wnpp. (Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:24:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #15 received at 609352@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Johey Shmit <joheyshmit@yahoo.com>
To: "pkg-games-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org" <pkg-games-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Cc: "609352@bugs.debian.org" <609352@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: ITP: zdoom -- Enhanced Doom engine
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2011 21:20:11 +0100 (BST)
> Am 11.06.2011 16:54, schrieb Johey Shmit:
> >    I've put it in contrib because it depends on a non-free library from
> >    www.fmod.org which will be downloaded on the fly during the build process.
>
> And then the binary built against this non-free library will be 
> distributed? Sorry, but I don't hink this will work!

It was discussed on games-devel and people did not rule it out completely.
But as the fmod authors doesn't even allow a non-commercial binary distribution
of their software I had to drop the idea anyway.

> >   The zdoom-engine is capable of running some doom style games that
> >   the prboom-engine can not (like heretic, hexen and strife).
> 
> AFAICT, Fedora uses the vavoom engine to play the doom-like non-doom 
> games you mentioned. 
Thanks for that information. As it turns out vavoom is already on mentors.d.n!
Unfortunately it cannot run some games that are specially designed for zdoom
(I could not get this very cool total conversion to run with vavoom:
http://www.afadoomer.com/wolf3d).

I've now packaged a installer-script that takes care of downloading and
building a zdoom package (http://mentors.debian.net/package/zdoom-installer).

Any comments on that?

Thanks for your help!

Johey





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Bug#609352; Package wnpp. (Thu, 01 Sep 2011 08:03:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #20 received at 609352@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Fabian Greffrath <fabian@greffrath.com>
To: Johey Shmit <joheyshmit@yahoo.com>
Cc: "pkg-games-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org" <pkg-games-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>, "609352@bugs.debian.org" <609352@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: Re: ITP: zdoom -- Enhanced Doom engine
Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2011 10:03:48 +0200
Am 31.08.2011 22:20, schrieb Johey Shmit:
> I've now packaged a installer-script that takes care of downloading and
> building a zdoom package (http://mentors.debian.net/package/zdoom-installer).
>
> Any comments on that?

So you are going to download fmod and its build-dependencies and build 
it and then download zdoom and its build-dependencies and build it 
against fmod?

I think this just circumvents the main problem of the whole story: 
zdoom depends on non-free software! And apparently the fmod developers 
do not even want their software to be made freely available, so why 
all the fuzz?

I don't think it helps...

 - Fabian




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Bug#609352; Package wnpp. (Sun, 04 Sep 2011 15:00:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #25 received at 609352@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Johey Shmit <joheyshmit@yahoo.com>
To: "pkg-games-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org" <pkg-games-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Cc: "609352@bugs.debian.org" <609352@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: Re: ITP: zdoom -- Enhanced Doom engine
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 15:57:06 +0100 (BST)
----- Ursprüngliche Message -----

> Von: Fabian Greffrath <fabian@greffrath.com>
> An: Johey Shmit <joheyshmit@yahoo.com>
> Cc: "pkg-games-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org" <pkg-games-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org>; "609352@bugs.debian.org" <609352@bugs.debian.org>
> Gesendet: 10:03 Donnerstag, 1.September 2011 
> Betreff: Re: ITP: zdoom -- Enhanced Doom engine
> 
> Am 31.08.2011 22:20, schrieb Johey Shmit:
>>  I've now packaged a installer-script that takes care of downloading and
>>  building a zdoom package 
> (http://mentors.debian.net/package/zdoom-installer).
>> 
>>  Any comments on that?
> 
> So you are going to download fmod and its build-dependencies and build it and 
> then download zdoom and its build-dependencies and build it against fmod?
> 
> I think this just circumvents the main problem of the whole story: zdoom depends 
> on non-free software! And apparently the fmod developers do not even want their 
> software to be made freely available, so why all the fuzz?
> 
> I don't think it helps...

Thank you for your comments. I'm discussing things with Jon Dowland from the
games team (on debian-devel-games) and I misunderstood him at first. This lead to the
creation of this ugly installer-package.
I've now replaced it with a zdoom scource package that includes the binary lib from fmod.

Not very nice but ok for the fmod people and ok for the non-free archive (according
to Jon).

Thanks again for your help!

 Johey




Owner recorded as Johey Shmit <joheyshmit@yahoo.com>. Request was from Raphael Geissert <atomo64@gmail.com> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Thu, 23 Feb 2012 04:18:22 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org, Johey Shmit <joheyshmit@yahoo.com>:
Bug#609352; Package wnpp. (Mon, 27 May 2013 13:35:47 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #32 received at 609352@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org>
To: 609352@bugs.debian.org
Cc: control@bugs.debian.org
Subject: zdoom: changing back from ITP to RFP
Date: Mon, 27 May 2013 15:24:22 +0200
retitle 609352 RFP: zdoom -- Enhanced Doom engine
noowner 609352
tag 609352 - pending
thanks

Hi,

This is an automatic email to change the status of zdoom back from ITP
(Intent to Package) to RFP (Request for Package), because this bug hasn't seen
any activity during the last 12 months.

If you are still interested in adopting zdoom, please send a mail to
<control@bugs.debian.org> with:

 retitle 609352 ITP: zdoom -- Enhanced Doom engine
 owner 609352 !
 thanks

However, it is not recommended to keep ITP for a long time without acting on
the package, as it might cause other prospective maintainers to refrain from
packaging that software. It is also a good idea to document your progress on
this ITP from time to time, by mailing <609352@bugs.debian.org>.

Thank you for your interest in Debian,
-- 
Lucas, for the QA team <debian-qa@lists.debian.org>



Changed Bug title to 'RFP: zdoom -- Enhanced Doom engine' from 'ITP: zdoom -- Enhanced Doom engine' Request was from Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Mon, 27 May 2013 13:53:07 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Removed annotation that Bug was owned by Johey Shmit <joheyshmit@yahoo.com>. Request was from Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Mon, 27 May 2013 13:53:08 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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