Debian Bug report logs - #604506
Preparations for the removal of the KDE3 and Qt3 libraries

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Package: src:qucs; Maintainer for src:qucs is José L. Redrejo Rodríguez <jredrejo@debian.org>;

Reported by: Eckhart Wörner <ewoerner@kde.org>

Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:27:05 UTC

Severity: important

Tags: sid, wheezy

Found in version qucs/0.0.15-1

Done: Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org>

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Report forwarded to José L. Redrejo Rodríguez <jredrejo@debian.org>:
Bug#604506; Package src:qucs. (Mon, 22 Nov 2010 15:27:07 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Eckhart Wörner <ewoerner@kde.org>:
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Message #5 received at maintonly@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Eckhart Wörner <ewoerner@kde.org>
To: maintonly@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Preparations for the removal of the KDE3 and Qt3 libraries
Date: Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:22:40 +0100
Source: qucs
Severity: wishlist
User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Usertags: qt3libs-removal


Dear maintainer,

The Debian Qt/KDE team is planning to remove the KDE3 and Qt3 libraries from 
Debian shortly after the Squeeze release. The transition phase to KDE4 and Qt4 
will finish since both KDE and Nokia upstream don't maintain the old versions 
of those libraries anymore.

In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on 
the KDE3/Qt3 libraries have to either get ported to KDE4/Qt4 or eventually get 
removed from the Debian repositories.

Therefore, please take the time and:
- contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a KDE4/Qt4 
port of your application
- if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are 
suitable alternatives for your users
- if there is a KDE4/Qt4 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
- if both the KDE3/Qt3 and the KDE4/Qt4 version already coexist in the Debian 
archives, consider removing the KDE3/Qt3 version

Documentation on how to port to KDE4 can be found at:
http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Development/Tutorials/KDE4_Porting_Guide

Documentation on how to port to Qt4 can be found at:
http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7/porting4.html

For any questions and issues, do not hesitate to contact the Debian Qt/KDE 
team at debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org

Eckhart




Bug Marked as found in versions qucs/0.0.15-1. Request was from Eckhart Wörner <ewoerner@kde.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Wed, 24 Nov 2010 15:03:08 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Severity set to 'serious' from 'wishlist' Request was from Eckhart Wörner <ewoerner@kde.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Tue, 08 Feb 2011 11:28:38 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <owner@bugs.debian.org>, debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org, 604506@bugs.debian.org, debian developers <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Qt3 removal rational
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:42:38 +0100
I comaintain upstream qucs a simulator of electronics circuit and the
only free one able to simulate radio frequency circuit.

In the scientific field a lot of software depend of qt3. And a lot of
uptream lack ressource to port to qt4. At my workplace (university) we
are using a lot this kind of software for in house use.

We are not ready to scitch to qt4, and I am willing to ask more
explanation about removal of qt lib.

I have also seen that it exist some projet to package trinity for
debian, that could offer an alternative and some delay.
What is the status of inclusion under debian?

Bastien




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Message #19 received at 604506@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Adrian Knoth <adi@drcomp.erfurt.thur.de>
To: Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>
Cc: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org, 604506@bugs.debian.org, debian developers <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Qt3 removal rational
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:08:00 +0100
On Tue, Feb 08, 2011 at 12:42:38PM +0100, Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:

> In the scientific field a lot of software depend of qt3. And a lot of

Same for kpicosim, but I'm pretty confident that I can run qt3to4 on it
and simply link with qt4's qt3 support library.

Last time I tried, the whole process was pretty straight forward and
took less than 15mins.


Just in case you're looking for a quick workaround.

HTH

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Bug#604506; Package src:qucs. (Wed, 09 Feb 2011 00:15:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #24 received at 604506@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer <perezmeyer@gmail.com>
To: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
Cc: Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>, Debian Bug Tracking System <owner@bugs.debian.org>, 604506@bugs.debian.org, debian developers <debian-devel@lists.debian.org>, jcristau@debian.org
Subject: Re: Qt3 removal rational
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 21:12:57 -0300
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On Tuesday 08 February 2011 08:42:38 Bastien ROUCARIES wrote:
> I comaintain upstream qucs a simulator of electronics circuit and the
> only free one able to simulate radio frequency circuit.
> 
> In the scientific field a lot of software depend of qt3. And a lot of
> uptream lack ressource to port to qt4. At my workplace (university) we
> are using a lot this kind of software for in house use.
> 
> We are not ready to scitch to qt4, and I am willing to ask more
> explanation about removal of qt lib.

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Hi Bastien!

As you may know, Qt3 has been dead upstream for more than four years, and thus 
without any kind of maintenance.

Our team's interests in Qt 3 was due to KDE 3, which will be removed now. So, 
there is no further interest on Qt 3 and people in this team do not want to 
be upstream of it or do not have the time to do so.

Our original idea was to remove Qt 3 from Debian. This will be for us the best 
decision.
Of course, we can simply orphan Qt 3, and hope somebody will step up to 
maintain it; we are unconvinced this is a responsible step for us to take as 
it would place the maintenance burden of a large package onto the QA team.

Kinds regards,

Lisandro, in name of the Qt/KDE team

-- 
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http://perezmeyer.com.ar/
http://perezmeyer.blogspot.com/
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Message #29 received at 604506@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Adrian von Bidder <avbidder@fortytwo.ch>
To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Cc: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org, Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>, Debian Bug Tracking System <owner@bugs.debian.org>, 604506@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Qt3 removal rational
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 07:45:23 +0100
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On Wednesday 09 February 2011 01.12:57 Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer 
wrote:
> Of course, we can simply orphan Qt 3, and hope somebody will step up to 
> maintain it; we are unconvinced this is a responsible step for us to take
> as  it would place the maintenance burden of a large package onto the QA
> team.

If qt3 is really popular with scientific apps, which presumably are slow 
moving targets which are not esaily /quickly ported to qt4, it should be 
enough motivation for the people who need qt3 to take on the maintenance, so 
no need to burden the QA team. You need a piece of software, you do the 
necessary packaging work - it's that simple, at least in theory.
 
cheers
-- vbi

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Added tag(s) sid and wheezy. Request was from Kurt Roeckx <kurt@roeckx.be> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:34:37 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Severity set to 'important' from 'serious' Request was from Lisandro Damián Nicanor Pérez Meyer <perezmeyer@gmail.com> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:36:42 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Bug#604506; Package src:qucs. (Sun, 20 May 2012 11:39:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Ana Guerrero <ana@debian.org>:
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Message #38 received at 604506@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ana Guerrero <ana@debian.org>
To: 604506@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#604506: Preparations for the removal of the KDE3 and Qt3 libraries
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 13:35:56 +0200
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 04:22:40PM +0100, Eckhart Wörner wrote:
> Source: qucs
> Severity: wishlist
> User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
> Usertags: qt3libs-removal
> 
> 
> Dear maintainer,
> 
> The Debian Qt/KDE team is planning to remove the KDE3 and Qt3 libraries from 
> Debian shortly after the Squeeze release. The transition phase to KDE4 and Qt4 
> will finish since both KDE and Nokia upstream don't maintain the old versions 
> of those libraries anymore.
> 
> In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on 
> the KDE3/Qt3 libraries have to either get ported to KDE4/Qt4 or eventually get 
> removed from the Debian repositories.
> 
> Therefore, please take the time and:
> - contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a KDE4/Qt4 
> port of your application
> - if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are 
> suitable alternatives for your users
> - if there is a KDE4/Qt4 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
> - if both the KDE3/Qt3 and the KDE4/Qt4 version already coexist in the Debian 
> archives, consider removing the KDE3/Qt3 version
> 
> Documentation on how to port to KDE4 can be found at:
> http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Development/Tutorials/KDE4_Porting_Guide
> 
> Documentation on how to port to Qt4 can be found at:
> http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7/porting4.html
>

Hello maintainer(s),

One year and a half later, it is about time to remove Qt3.
Please, migrate to the Qt4 version (if existing) or file for removal of your
package.

Thanks,
Ana




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Message #43 received at 604506@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez <jredrejo@debian.org>
To: Ana Guerrero <ana@debian.org>, 604506@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#604506: Preparations for the removal of the KDE3 and Qt3 libraries
Date: Tue, 22 May 2012 13:21:26 +0200
Hi Ana,
I've pinged again upstream because they told me on December they were
working in the porting.
If I receive no answer in a few days I will ask for the removal of qucs.
Thanks for your patience


2012/5/20 Ana Guerrero <ana@debian.org>:
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 04:22:40PM +0100, Eckhart Wörner wrote:
>> Source: qucs
>> Severity: wishlist
>> User: debian-qt-kde@lists.debian.org
>> Usertags: qt3libs-removal
>>
>>
>> Dear maintainer,
>>
>> The Debian Qt/KDE team is planning to remove the KDE3 and Qt3 libraries from
>> Debian shortly after the Squeeze release. The transition phase to KDE4 and Qt4
>> will finish since both KDE and Nokia upstream don't maintain the old versions
>> of those libraries anymore.
>>
>> In order to make this move, all packages directly or indirectly depending on
>> the KDE3/Qt3 libraries have to either get ported to KDE4/Qt4 or eventually get
>> removed from the Debian repositories.
>>
>> Therefore, please take the time and:
>> - contact your upstream (if existing) and ask about the state of a KDE4/Qt4
>> port of your application
>> - if there are no activities regarding porting, investigate whether there are
>> suitable alternatives for your users
>> - if there is a KDE4/Qt4 port that is not yet packaged, consider packaging it
>> - if both the KDE3/Qt3 and the KDE4/Qt4 version already coexist in the Debian
>> archives, consider removing the KDE3/Qt3 version
>>
>> Documentation on how to port to KDE4 can be found at:
>> http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Development/Tutorials/KDE4_Porting_Guide
>>
>> Documentation on how to port to Qt4 can be found at:
>> http://doc.qt.nokia.com/4.7/porting4.html
>>
>
> Hello maintainer(s),
>
> One year and a half later, it is about time to remove Qt3.
> Please, migrate to the Qt4 version (if existing) or file for removal of your
> package.
>
> Thanks,
> Ana
>
>




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From: Ana Guerrero <ana@debian.org>
To: José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez <jredrejo@debian.org>, 604506@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#604506: Preparations for the removal of the KDE3 and Qt3 libraries
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 14:05:22 +0200
On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 01:21:26PM +0200, José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez wrote:
> Hi Ana,
> I've pinged again upstream because they told me on December they were
> working in the porting.
> If I receive no answer in a few days I will ask for the removal of qucs.
> Thanks for your patience
>

No news I guess :(
I am going to file the removal. I'm also asking qt3' removal today.





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Message #53 received at 604506@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez <jredrejo@debian.org>
To: Ana Guerrero <ana@debian.org>
Cc: 604506@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#604506: Preparations for the removal of the KDE3 and Qt3 libraries
Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2012 15:25:21 +0200
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No news. Go ahead with the removal
El 10/06/2012 14:05, "Ana Guerrero" <ana@debian.org> escribió:

> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 01:21:26PM +0200, José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez
> wrote:
> > Hi Ana,
> > I've pinged again upstream because they told me on December they were
> > working in the porting.
> > If I receive no answer in a few days I will ask for the removal of qucs.
> > Thanks for your patience
> >
>
> No news I guess :(
> I am going to file the removal. I'm also asking qt3' removal today.
>
>
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Reply sent to Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org>:
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Message #58 received at 604506-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Moritz Muehlenhoff <jmm@inutil.org>
To: José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez <jredrejo@debian.org>
Cc: Ana Guerrero <ana@debian.org>, 604506-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#604506: Preparations for the removal of the KDE3 and Qt3 libraries
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2012 22:21:32 +0200
On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 03:25:21PM +0200, José Luis Redrejo Rodríguez wrote:
> No news. Go ahead with the removal

qucs was removed, closing this bug.

Cheers,
        Moritz




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