Debian Bug report logs - #602697
should not be included in squeeze

Package: solr; Maintainer for solr is (unknown);

Reported by: Thomas Koch <thomas@koch.ro>

Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 10:39:07 UTC

Severity: serious

Done: Luca Capello <luca@pca.it>

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From: Thomas Koch <thomas@koch.ro>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: should not be included in squeeze
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 11:38:26 +0100
Package: solr
Severity: serious
Tags: squeeze

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I've written a mail ("Remove Solr from Squeeze?") on 2010/10/12 to
debian-java and the package's maintainer Jan-Pascal van Best and
proposed the removal of solr from Squeeze, mainly because:

- - it's already outdated a year by now (see bug #602696 )
- - it doesn't even include all contribs (see bug #602695 )
- - the package has accumulated too many bugs
- - there doesn't seem to be enough (wo)man power to maintain the package
  right now on a standard that would make it fit for Debian _stable_

So until nothing else happens, please don't include solr in Debian
squeeze.

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From: "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk>
To: Thomas Koch <thomas@koch.ro>, 602697@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#602697: should not be included in squeeze
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 12:53:10 +0000
On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 11:38 +0100, Thomas Koch wrote:
> I've written a mail ("Remove Solr from Squeeze?") on 2010/10/12 to
> debian-java and the package's maintainer Jan-Pascal van Best and
> proposed the removal of solr from Squeeze, mainly because:
> 
> - - it's already outdated a year by now (see bug #602696 )
> - - it doesn't even include all contribs (see bug #602695 )
> - - the package has accumulated too many bugs
> - - there doesn't seem to be enough (wo)man power to maintain the package
>   right now on a standard that would make it fit for Debian _stable_
> 
> So until nothing else happens, please don't include solr in Debian
> squeeze.

The package has a reverse-dependency in testing already, so can't be
removed right now:

Checking reverse dependencies...
# Broken Depends:
chef: chef-solr

It's also in lenny (albeit in contrib) so if it were removed then a
migration path for those users to a replacement would be good.

Regards,

Adam





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From: Thomas Koch <thomas@koch.ro>
To: "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk>, 602697@bugs.debian.org, Joshua Timberman <joshua@opscode.com>, Debian Ruby Extras Maintainers <pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#602697: chef-solr depends on solr
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 14:52:24 +0100
Adam D. Barratt:
> On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 11:38 +0100, Thomas Koch wrote:
> > I've written a mail ("Remove Solr from Squeeze?") on 2010/10/12 to
> > debian-java and the package's maintainer Jan-Pascal van Best and
> > proposed the removal of solr from Squeeze, mainly because:
> > 
> > - - it's already outdated a year by now (see bug #602696 )
> > - - it doesn't even include all contribs (see bug #602695 )
> > - - the package has accumulated too many bugs
> > - - there doesn't seem to be enough (wo)man power to maintain the package
> > 
> >   right now on a standard that would make it fit for Debian _stable_
> > 
> > So until nothing else happens, please don't include solr in Debian
> > squeeze.
> 
> The package has a reverse-dependency in testing already, so can't be
> removed right now:
> 
> Checking reverse dependencies...
> # Broken Depends:
> chef: chef-solr

to the maintainer of Chef in Debian,

this is just to inform you, that there is a recommendation from me to remove 
the solr package from Debian. However since chef-solr does depend on solr, 
you'd affected by this removal.

I've had a quick look over the informations about your package (bugs, 
piuparts, lintian) and would like to ask you, whether you wouldn't also be 
better to not include chef in Debian in its current state. - Please keep in 
mind that you commit yourself to maintain your package during the entire life 
of Debian Squeeze which may well be over two years!

Users of chef could still install chef via testing or backports if chef should 
not be shipped with Debian Squeeze.

If you still want to include chef in Debian Squeeze, would you like to help 
maintaining the solr package?

Best regards,

Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro




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From: Jan-Pascal van Best <janpascal@vanbest.org>
To: Thomas Koch <thomas@koch.ro>, 602697@bugs.debian.org, pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#602697: should not be included in squeeze
Date: Sun, 07 Nov 2010 21:37:34 +0100
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On 11/07/2010 11:38 AM, Thomas Koch wrote:
> Package: solr
> Severity: serious
> Tags: squeeze
>
> I've written a mail ("Remove Solr from Squeeze?") on 2010/10/12 to
> debian-java and the package's maintainer Jan-Pascal van Best and
> proposed the removal of solr from Squeeze, mainly because:
>
> - it's already outdated a year by now (see bug #602696 )
> - it doesn't even include all contribs (see bug #602695 )
> - the package has accumulated too many bugs
> - there doesn't seem to be enough (wo)man power to maintain the package
>   right now on a standard that would make it fit for Debian _stable_
>
> So until nothing else happens, please don't include solr in Debian
> squeeze.
>
Agreed. Solr is moving too fast, and accumulating too many dependencies
(which have their own dependencies, and so on) to be maintained properly
right now.

Jan-Pascal

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From: Victor Seva <linuxmaniac@torreviejawireless.org>
To: Jan-Pascal van Best <janpascal@vanbest.org>
Cc: Thomas Koch <thomas@koch.ro>, 602697@bugs.debian.org, pkg-java-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#602697: should not be included in squeeze
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 18:34:23 +0100
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Hi Jan-Pascal and Thomas,

On 11/07/2010  21:37, Jan-Pascal van Best wrote:

> On 11/07/2010 11:38 AM, Thomas Koch wrote:
> > Package: solr
> 
> > Severity: serious
> 
> > Tags: squeeze
> 
> >
>> I've written a mail ("Remove Solr from Squeeze?") on 2010/10/12 to
>> debian-java and the package's maintainer Jan-Pascal van Best and
>> proposed the removal of solr from Squeeze, mainly because:
>> 
>> - it's already outdated a year by now (see bug #602696 )
>> - it doesn't even include all contribs (see bug #602695 )
>> - the package has accumulated too many bugs
>> - there doesn't seem to be enough (wo)man power to maintain the package
>>   right now on a standard that would make it fit for Debian _stable_
>> 

We[0] are currently using solr at Work. I have backported [1] the last version to lenny for our own use and it's running on our production servers. So I'm stepping forward to help packaging in anyway I can. I have some experience packaging [2] but not with java apps. 

>> So until nothing else happens, please don't include solr in Debian
>> squeeze.
>> 
> Agreed. Solr is moving too fast, and accumulating too many dependencies (which have their own dependencies, and so on) to be maintained properly right now.
> 
> Jan-Pascal

What is the priority? Upgrade the package to 1.4.1? Fix the issues on 1.4.0?


Thanks

[0] http://www.cervantesvirtual.com/
[1] https://github.com/linuxmaniac/bvmc_debian/tree/master/solr/ 
[2] http://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=linuxmaniac%40torreviejawireless.org
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From: Thomas Koch <thomas@koch.ro>
To: Victor Seva <linuxmaniac@torreviejawireless.org>
Cc: "Jan-Pascal van Best" <janpascal@vanbest.org>, 602697@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#602697: should not be included in squeeze
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 18:54:28 +0100
Victor Seva:
> What is the priority? Upgrade the package to 1.4.1? Fix the issues on
> 1.4.0?
Hi Victor,

thank you very much for the offer. I think having version 1.4.1 should be the 
minimum requirement for Debian Squeeze. However I'm afraid we won't be allowed 
to do any additional upload for Squeeze only for an updated version.

The GIT repository used for the Debian solr packaging was a bit of an 
experiment of me. I would be willing to throw it away and let you start from 
skretch if this would help you.

Best regards,

Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro




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From: Luca Capello <luca@pca.it>
To: 602697@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Thomas Koch <thomas@koch.ro>, Joshua Timberman <joshua@opscode.com>, Debian Ruby Extras Maintainers <pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>, "Adam D. Barratt" <adam@adam-barratt.org.uk>, Jan-Pascal van Best <janpascal@vanbest.org>, Victor Seva <linuxmaniac@torreviejawireless.org>
Subject: chef: remove from squeeze because of solr (#602697)? (was Re: Bug#602697: chef-solr depends on solr)
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 17:47:41 +0100
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clone 602697 -1
retitle -1 chef: remove from squeeze because of solr (#602697)?
found -1 0.8.16-4.1
block 602697 by -1
thanks

Hi there!

Cc:ing all the people that have interacted with this bug.

On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 14:52:24 +0100, Thomas Koch wrote:
> Adam D. Barratt:
>> On Sun, 2010-11-07 at 11:38 +0100, Thomas Koch wrote:
>> > I've written a mail ("Remove Solr from Squeeze?") on 2010/10/12 to
>> > debian-java and the package's maintainer Jan-Pascal van Best and
>> > proposed the removal of solr from Squeeze, mainly because:
>> > 
>> > - - it's already outdated a year by now (see bug #602696 )
>> > - - it doesn't even include all contribs (see bug #602695 )
>> > - - the package has accumulated too many bugs
>> > - - there doesn't seem to be enough (wo)man power to maintain the package
>> > 
>> >   right now on a standard that would make it fit for Debian _stable_
>> > 
>> > So until nothing else happens, please don't include solr in Debian
>> > squeeze.
>> 
>> The package has a reverse-dependency in testing already, so can't be
>> removed right now:
>> 
>> Checking reverse dependencies...
>> # Broken Depends:
>> chef: chef-solr
>
> to the maintainer of Chef in Debian,
>
> this is just to inform you, that there is a recommendation from me to remove 
> the solr package from Debian. However since chef-solr does depend on solr, 
> you'd affected by this removal.

Some hints about the chef package in Debian:

- Debian has (6-month-old) 0.8.16-4.1, while upstream is at 0.9.12
- popcon show 41 installation (2 recent) for the chef binary package and
  2 (0 recent) for the chef-solr binary package
- there is an RC bug for chef-solr (#604231, installation fails because
  of nodedown)

Thus, I think the best thing would be to remove chef from squeeze (new
bugs created), so then we can remove solr as well.

>> It's also in lenny (albeit in contrib) so if it were removed then a
>> migration path for those users to a replacement would be good.

Given that chef-solr was not in lenny, the above applies to solr only.
However, I should say that I do not know at all a good migration path.

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca
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From: Luca Capello <luca@pca.it>
To: 602697@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Thomas Koch <thomas@koch.ro>, Joshua Timberman <joshua@opscode.com>, Debian Ruby Extras Maintainers <pkg-ruby-extras-maintainers@lists.alioth.debian.org>, Jan-Pascal van Best <janpascal@vanbest.org>, Victor Seva <linuxmaniac@torreviejawireless.org>, debian-release@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: chef: remove from squeeze because of solr (#602697)? (was Re: Bug#602697: chef-solr depends on solr)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 11:23:38 +0100
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Hi there!

> Cc:ing all the people that have interacted with this bug.

Still true, but this is the last email about this subject from me.

On Sun, 28 Nov 2010 17:47:41 +0100, Luca Capello wrote:
> Some hints about the chef package in Debian:
>
> - Debian has (6-month-old) 0.8.16-4.1, while upstream is at 0.9.12
> - popcon show 41 installation (2 recent) for the chef binary package and
>   2 (0 recent) for the chef-solr binary package
> - there is an RC bug for chef-solr (#604231, installation fails because
>   of nodedown)
>
> Thus, I think the best thing would be to remove chef from squeeze (new
> bugs created), so then we can remove solr as well.

chef has been removed from squeeze because of #610127 and #596351:

  <http://packages.qa.debian.org/c/chef/news/20110121T163911Z.html>

>>> It's also in lenny (albeit in contrib) so if it were removed then a
>>> migration path for those users to a replacement would be good.
>
> Given that chef-solr was not in lenny, the above applies to solr only.
> However, I should say that I do not know at all a good migration path.

This concern still stands, but given that no one has shown interest in
implementing this in mostly two months, I would say that we should
simply remove solr from squeeze.

For the Release Team: should I file an RM bug or this one is sufficient?

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca
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From: Victor Seva <linuxmaniac@torreviejawireless.org>
To: Luca Capello <luca@pca.it>
Cc: 602697@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: chef: remove from squeeze because of solr (#602697)? (was Re: Bug#602697: chef-solr depends on solr)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:58:57 +0100
2011/1/25 Luca Capello <luca@pca.it>:
>>>> It's also in lenny (albeit in contrib) so if it were removed then a
>>>> migration path for those users to a replacement would be good.
>>
>> Given that chef-solr was not in lenny, the above applies to solr only.
>> However, I should say that I do not know at all a good migration path.
>
> This concern still stands, but given that no one has shown interest in
> implementing this in mostly two months, I would say that we should
> simply remove solr from squeeze.
>
> For the Release Team: should I file an RM bug or this one is sufficient?

AFAIK solr has been removed already from squeeze.




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From: Luca Capello <luca@pca.it>
To: 602697-done@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Victor Seva <linuxmaniac@torreviejawireless.org>, debian-release@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: chef: remove from squeeze because of solr (#602697)? (was Re: Bug#602697: chef-solr depends on solr)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 16:28:20 +0100
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Hi there!

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 13:58:57 +0100, Victor Seva wrote:
> 2011/1/25 Luca Capello <luca@pca.it>:
>>>>> It's also in lenny (albeit in contrib) so if it were removed then a
>>>>> migration path for those users to a replacement would be good.
>>>
>>> Given that chef-solr was not in lenny, the above applies to solr only.
>>> However, I should say that I do not know at all a good migration path.
>>
>> This concern still stands, but given that no one has shown interest in
>> implementing this in mostly two months, I would say that we should
>> simply remove solr from squeeze.
>>
>> For the Release Team: should I file an RM bug or this one is sufficient?
>
> AFAIK solr has been removed already from squeeze.

Thank you for the notification, my fault I did checked before only for
chef, bug closed:

  <http://packages.qa.debian.org/s/solr/news/20101215T163915Z.html>

Thx, bye,
Gismo / Luca
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