Debian Bug report logs - #601970
Permission to upload tk8.4

Package: release.debian.org; Maintainer for release.debian.org is Debian Release Team <debian-release@lists.debian.org>;

Reported by: Sergei Golovan <sgolovan@nes.ru>

Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:42:01 UTC

Severity: normal

Done: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Debian Release Team <debian-release@lists.debian.org>:
Bug#601970; Package release.debian.org. (Sun, 31 Oct 2010 12:42:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Sergei Golovan <sgolovan@nes.ru>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: Permission to upload tk8.4
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 15:39:03 +0300
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Package: release.debian.org
Severity: normal

Hi release team!

I'd like to upload tk8.4 with the following three changes:

1) Reduce indirect dependencies by replacing xvt for xterm in recommends.
   Since recommends are now installed by default, it's better to make them
   as small as possible. See bug
   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=601591 for details.

2) Added ${misc:Depends} to debian/control (trivial change which in fact
   adds nothing to the dependencies, but it's better to have this added
   because tk8.4 uses debhelper).

3) Standards version bump to 3.9.1 (another trivial change which didn't
   require any fixes in the package).

Could you allow me to make this upload? The diff between the current
8.4.19-4 and upcoming 8.4.19-5 is attached.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 5.0.6
  APT prefers stable
  APT policy: (990, 'stable'), (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: i386 (x86_64)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-3-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=ru_RU.CP1251, LC_CTYPE=ru_RU.CP1251 (charmap=CP1251)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
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Bug#601970; Package release.debian.org. (Mon, 01 Nov 2010 18:48:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>
To: Sergei Golovan <sgolovan@nes.ru>, 601970@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#601970: Permission to upload tk8.4
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 19:46:16 +0100
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On Sun, Oct 31, 2010 at 15:39:03 +0300, Sergei Golovan wrote:

> Package: release.debian.org
> Severity: normal
> 
> Hi release team!
> 
> I'd like to upload tk8.4 with the following three changes:
> 
> 1) Reduce indirect dependencies by replacing xvt for xterm in recommends.
>    Since recommends are now installed by default, it's better to make them
>    as small as possible. See bug
>    http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=601591 for details.
> 
NAK.  xterm has 48k popcon installations, xvt has 220.  I don't think
this change makes sense.

Cheers,
Julien
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Bug#601970; Package release.debian.org. (Mon, 01 Nov 2010 19:06:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #15 received at 601970@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Sergei Golovan <sgolovan@nes.ru>
To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>, 601970@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#601970: Permission to upload tk8.4
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 22:02:59 +0300
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> wrote:
>>
> NAK.  xterm has 48k popcon installations, xvt has 220.  I don't think
> this change makes sense.

Well, if any terminal emulator is already installed then this change will never
pull xvt. Though if tk8.4 is itself installed via recommended
dependency in non-x
environment then xterm will add much more libraries from X than xvt.

Cheers!
-- 
Sergei Golovan




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Message #20 received at 601970@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>
To: Sergei Golovan <sgolovan@nes.ru>
Cc: 601970@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#601970: Permission to upload tk8.4
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 20:07:25 +0100
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On Mon, Nov  1, 2010 at 22:02:59 +0300, Sergei Golovan wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 9:46 PM, Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> wrote:
> >>
> > NAK.  xterm has 48k popcon installations, xvt has 220.  I don't think
> > this change makes sense.
> 
> Well, if any terminal emulator is already installed then this change will never
> pull xvt. Though if tk8.4 is itself installed via recommended
> dependency in non-x
> environment then xterm will add much more libraries from X than xvt.
> 
In non-X environment either tk8.4 shouldn't be pulled in or it shouldn't
pull in an X terminal emulator at all.

Cheers,
Julien
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Message #25 received at 601970@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Sergei Golovan <sgolovan@nes.ru>
To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>
Cc: 601970@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#601970: Permission to upload tk8.4
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 22:26:07 +0300
On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> wrote:
>>
> In non-X environment either tk8.4 shouldn't be pulled in or it shouldn't
> pull in an X terminal emulator at all.

tk8.4 is useless without X, so I guess it's better to file a bugreport
to foo2zjs
which provides a printer driver, to weaken dependency on tk8.4 to 'suggest'.

Looks like this bugreport may be closed.

Cheers!
-- 
Sergei Golovan




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Message #30 received at 601970-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>
To: Sergei Golovan <sgolovan@nes.ru>
Cc: 601970-done@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#601970: Permission to upload tk8.4
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 20:32:14 +0100
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On Mon, Nov  1, 2010 at 22:26:07 +0300, Sergei Golovan wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> wrote:
> >>
> > In non-X environment either tk8.4 shouldn't be pulled in or it shouldn't
> > pull in an X terminal emulator at all.
> 
> tk8.4 is useless without X, so I guess it's better to file a bugreport
> to foo2zjs
> which provides a printer driver, to weaken dependency on tk8.4 to 'suggest'.
> 
Sounds good to me.

> Looks like this bugreport may be closed.
> 
Doing so, thanks.

Cheers,
Julien
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