Debian Bug report logs - #600551
upgrade to udev 163 breaks X on my Inspiron 8500

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Package: udev; Maintainer for udev is Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>; Source for udev is src:systemd.

Reported by: Brian Sammon <debian-bugs@brisammon.fastmail.fm>

Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 05:27:02 UTC

Severity: important

Found in version udev/163-1

Done: Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>

Bug is archived. No further changes may be made.

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Report forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>:
Bug#600551; Package udev. (Mon, 18 Oct 2010 05:27:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Brian Sammon <debian-bugs@brisammon.fastmail.fm>:
New Bug report received and forwarded. Copy sent to Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>. (Mon, 18 Oct 2010 05:27:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Brian Sammon <debian-bugs@brisammon.fastmail.fm>
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
Subject: upgrade to udev 163 breaks X on my Inspiron 8500
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 17:23:18 -0400
Package: udev
Version: 163-1
Severity: important

When I upgrade udev from 0.125-7+lenny3 to 163 on my system,
after reboot, X doesn't work (I don't use a display manager, I use startx)
I get a mouse cursor that moves, a black background (I don't usually have a
black background), some video artifacts at the top of the screen,
and the system is unresponsive to mouseclicks and most keyboard activity.
The Caps-lock key toggles the LED until I do Ctrl-Alt-Backspace (which
doesn't change the screen), and after that, caps-lock key has no further
effect.  I power-cycle to recover.  I haven't checked if the system can be
accessed remotely when this happens.

With 0.125-7+lenny3, I get the expected behavior: no windows open
automatically when I start X, but the root menu functions to start apps.

Some things I think may be relevant:
the laptop has a nvidia chipset
I have not downloaded or installed any non-open-source or non-free
video drivers
I have no packages with "nvidia" in the name installed, just
xserver-xorg-video-nv
I am willing to install packages from debian/non-free as needed.
With 163-1, the console switches from standard VGA to high-res framebuffer
mode during the bootup
There is no video-mode switch with 0.125-7+lenny3
This problem happens with both a 2.6.32-5 squeeze kernel, and a
2.6.32-bpo.5 backports.org kernel
This problem also happens with udev 160-1 found in testing

Installed versions of some packages:
ii  linux-image-2.6.32-5-686            2.6.32-23
ii  linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.5-686        2.6.32-21~bpo50+1
ii  xserver-xorg                        1:7.3+20
ii  xserver-xorg-core                   2:1.4.2-10.lenny2
ii  xserver-xorg-input-kbd              1:1.3.1-1
ii  xserver-xorg-input-mouse            1:1.3.0-1
ii  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics        0.14.7~git20070706-3
ii  xserver-xorg-video-nv               1:2.1.10-1

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 5.0.5
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-686 (SMP w/1 CPU core)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages udev depends on:
ii  debconf [debconf-2.0]        1.5.24      Debian configuration management sy
ii  libc6                        2.11.2-2    Embedded GNU C Library: Shared lib
ii  libselinux1                  2.0.65-5    SELinux shared libraries
ii  libudev0                     163-1       libudev shared library
ii  libusb-0.1-4                 2:0.1.12-13 userspace USB programming library
ii  lsb-base                     3.2-20      Linux Standard Base 3.2 init scrip
ii  util-linux                   2.17.2-3.1  Miscellaneous system utilities

Versions of packages udev recommends:
ii  pciutils                   1:3.0.0-6     Linux PCI Utilities
ii  usbutils                   0.73-10lenny2 Linux USB utilities

udev suggests no packages.

-- debconf information:
  udev/new_kernel_needed: false
  udev/title/upgrade:
  udev/reboot_needed:
  udev/sysfs_deprecated_incompatibility:





Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>:
Bug#600551; Package udev. (Mon, 18 Oct 2010 08:09:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to maximilian attems <max@stro.at>:
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Message #10 received at 600551@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: maximilian attems <max@stro.at>
To: Brian Sammon <debian-bugs@brisammon.fastmail.fm>, 600551@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#600551: upgrade to udev 163 breaks X on my Inspiron 8500
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:08:00 +0200
On Sun, 17 Oct 2010, Brian Sammon wrote:

> Package: udev
> Version: 163-1
> Severity: important
> 
> When I upgrade udev from 0.125-7+lenny3 to 163 on my system,
> after reboot, X doesn't work (I don't use a display manager, I use startx)
> I get a mouse cursor that moves, a black background (I don't usually have a
> black background), some video artifacts at the top of the screen,
> and the system is unresponsive to mouseclicks and most keyboard activity.
> The Caps-lock key toggles the LED until I do Ctrl-Alt-Backspace (which
> doesn't change the screen), and after that, caps-lock key has no further
> effect.  I power-cycle to recover.  I haven't checked if the system can be
> accessed remotely when this happens.
> 
> With 0.125-7+lenny3, I get the expected behavior: no windows open
> automatically when I start X, but the root menu functions to start apps.
> 
> Some things I think may be relevant:
> the laptop has a nvidia chipset
> I have not downloaded or installed any non-open-source or non-free
> video drivers
> I have no packages with "nvidia" in the name installed, just
> xserver-xorg-video-nv
> I am willing to install packages from debian/non-free as needed.
> With 163-1, the console switches from standard VGA to high-res framebuffer
> mode during the bootup
> There is no video-mode switch with 0.125-7+lenny3
> This problem happens with both a 2.6.32-5 squeeze kernel, and a
> 2.6.32-bpo.5 backports.org kernel
> This problem also happens with udev 160-1 found in testing
> 
> Installed versions of some packages:
> ii  linux-image-2.6.32-5-686            2.6.32-23
> ii  linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.5-686        2.6.32-21~bpo50+1
> ii  xserver-xorg                        1:7.3+20
> ii  xserver-xorg-core                   2:1.4.2-10.lenny2
> ii  xserver-xorg-input-kbd              1:1.3.1-1
> ii  xserver-xorg-input-mouse            1:1.3.0-1
> ii  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics        0.14.7~git20070706-3
> ii  xserver-xorg-video-nv               1:2.1.10-1

please try newer nouveau, it should already be a better nv in squeeze.

thanks

-- 
maks




Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>:
Bug#600551; Package udev. (Mon, 18 Oct 2010 08:30:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>. (Mon, 18 Oct 2010 08:30:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #15 received at 600551@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de>
To: maximilian attems <max@stro.at>
Cc: 600551@bugs.debian.org, Brian Sammon <debian-bugs@brisammon.fastmail.fm>
Subject: Re: Bug#600551: upgrade to udev 163 breaks X on my Inspiron 8500
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:26:19 +0200
On 2010-10-18 10:08 +0200, maximilian attems wrote:

> On Sun, 17 Oct 2010, Brian Sammon wrote:
>
>> Package: udev
>> Version: 163-1
>> Severity: important
>> 
>> When I upgrade udev from 0.125-7+lenny3 to 163 on my system,
>> after reboot, X doesn't work (I don't use a display manager, I use startx)
>> I get a mouse cursor that moves, a black background (I don't usually have a
>> black background), some video artifacts at the top of the screen,
>> and the system is unresponsive to mouseclicks and most keyboard activity.
>> The Caps-lock key toggles the LED until I do Ctrl-Alt-Backspace (which
>> doesn't change the screen), and after that, caps-lock key has no further
>> effect.  I power-cycle to recover.  I haven't checked if the system can be
>> accessed remotely when this happens.
>> 
>> With 0.125-7+lenny3, I get the expected behavior: no windows open
>> automatically when I start X, but the root menu functions to start apps.
>> 
>> Some things I think may be relevant:
>> the laptop has a nvidia chipset
>> I have not downloaded or installed any non-open-source or non-free
>> video drivers
>> I have no packages with "nvidia" in the name installed, just
>> xserver-xorg-video-nv
>> I am willing to install packages from debian/non-free as needed.
>> With 163-1, the console switches from standard VGA to high-res framebuffer
>> mode during the bootup
>> There is no video-mode switch with 0.125-7+lenny3
>> This problem happens with both a 2.6.32-5 squeeze kernel, and a
>> 2.6.32-bpo.5 backports.org kernel
>> This problem also happens with udev 160-1 found in testing
>> 
>> Installed versions of some packages:
>> ii  linux-image-2.6.32-5-686            2.6.32-23
>> ii  linux-image-2.6.32-bpo.5-686        2.6.32-21~bpo50+1
>> ii  xserver-xorg                        1:7.3+20
>> ii  xserver-xorg-core                   2:1.4.2-10.lenny2
>> ii  xserver-xorg-input-kbd              1:1.3.1-1
>> ii  xserver-xorg-input-mouse            1:1.3.0-1
>> ii  xserver-xorg-input-synaptics        0.14.7~git20070706-3
>> ii  xserver-xorg-video-nv               1:2.1.10-1
>
> please try newer nouveau, it should already be a better nv in squeeze.

Note that this means upgrading xserver-xorg-core and other parts of X as
well.  If that is not desired, booting with nouveau.modeset=0 is another
option.

I find it rather surprising that the lenny-backports kernel even
includes the nouveau module, with Lenny's userspace it does not do any
good.

Sven




Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>:
Bug#600551; Package udev. (Fri, 22 Oct 2010 23:24:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri):
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Message #20 received at 600551@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri)
To: Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de>, 600551@bugs.debian.org
Cc: maximilian attems <max@stro.at>, Brian Sammon <debian-bugs@brisammon.fastmail.fm>
Subject: Re: Bug#600551: upgrade to udev 163 breaks X on my Inspiron 8500
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 00:43:36 +0200
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On Oct 18, Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> wrote:

> > please try newer nouveau, it should already be a better nv in squeeze.
> Note that this means upgrading xserver-xorg-core and other parts of X as
> well.  If that is not desired, booting with nouveau.modeset=0 is another
> option.
So, is there anything I should do about this?

-- 
ciao,
Marco
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Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it>:
Bug#600551; Package udev. (Sat, 23 Oct 2010 08:03:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de>:
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Message #25 received at 600551@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de>
To: md@Linux.IT (Marco d'Itri)
Cc: 600551@bugs.debian.org, maximilian attems <max@stro.at>, Brian Sammon <debian-bugs@brisammon.fastmail.fm>
Subject: Re: Bug#600551: upgrade to udev 163 breaks X on my Inspiron 8500
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 09:59:24 +0200
On 2010-10-23 00:43 +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote:

> On Oct 18, Sven Joachim <svenjoac@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> > please try newer nouveau, it should already be a better nv in squeeze.
>> Note that this means upgrading xserver-xorg-core and other parts of X as
>> well.  If that is not desired, booting with nouveau.modeset=0 is another
>> option.
> So, is there anything I should do about this?

Other than closing the bug, no.  This is not a udev problem, and in
Squeeze the incompatibility between nouveau.ko and the nv video driver
is addressed already (nv will refuse to load if kernel mode setting is
in place).

Sven




Bug closed, send any further explanations to Brian Sammon <debian-bugs@brisammon.fastmail.fm> Request was from Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Sat, 23 Oct 2010 08:03:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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