Debian Bug report logs - #595491
unblock: clive/2.2.13-3

Package: release.debian.org; Maintainer for release.debian.org is Debian Release Team <debian-release@lists.debian.org>;

Reported by: Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@2008.43-1.org>

Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 13:39:02 UTC

Severity: normal

Tags: moreinfo

Done: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>

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Bug#595491; Package release.debian.org. (Sat, 04 Sep 2010 13:39:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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From: Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@2008.43-1.org>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: future unblock: clive/2.2.13-3
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 22:34:39 +0900
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Package: release.debian.org
Severity: normal
User: release.debian.org@packages.debian.org
Usertags: unblock

clive needs a small patch to handle changed URLs on vimeo.com[1].
I prepared an upload based on the version currently in unstable (which
is already unblocked).

Should we go ahead with the upload?

Regards,
Ansgar

PS: Please Cc debian-perl@lists.debian.org in replies.

[1] <http://bugs.debian.org/595486>
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Bug#595491; Package release.debian.org. (Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:24:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #8 received at 595491@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>
To: Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@2008.43-1.org>, 595491@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#595491: future unblock: clive/2.2.13-3
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 16:20:54 +0200
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On Sat, Sep  4, 2010 at 22:34:39 +0900, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:

> clive needs a small patch to handle changed URLs on vimeo.com[1].
> I prepared an upload based on the version currently in unstable (which
> is already unblocked).
> 
Sounds like one of those packages that can't keep working for the
lifetime of a stable release.  Should we ship this in stable at all?
(Same question for youtube-dl btw.)

Cheers,
Julien
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Bug#595491; Package release.debian.org. (Sat, 04 Sep 2010 14:48:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #11 received at 595491@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@43-1.org>
To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>
Cc: 595491@bugs.debian.org, debian-perl@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#595491: future unblock: clive/2.2.13-3
Date: Sat, 04 Sep 2010 23:43:55 +0900
Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> writes:

> On Sat, Sep  4, 2010 at 22:34:39 +0900, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
>
>> clive needs a small patch to handle changed URLs on vimeo.com[1].
>> I prepared an upload based on the version currently in unstable (which
>> is already unblocked).
>> 
> Sounds like one of those packages that can't keep working for the
> lifetime of a stable release.  Should we ship this in stable at all?
> (Same question for youtube-dl btw.)

libquvi and cclive (which uses the former) should also have the same
problem.

The patches to cope with changed URLs are usually quite small and should
be safe to include in a stable update.  Maybe we could use volatile.d.o
to make updates available faster.  I have never used it before myself,
but `debian-volatile is not "just another place" for backports, but
should only contain changes to stable programs that are necessary to
keep them functional.'[1] reads like the program should be in stable if
updates should be provided via volatile.  Please correct me if I am
wrong.

Regards,
Ansgar

[1] <http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-volatile/>




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Message #16 received at 595491@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk>
To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>, 595491@bugs.debian.org, debian-perl@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#595491: future unblock: clive/2.2.13-3
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 17:12:46 +0200
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On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 11:43:55PM +0900, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
>Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> writes:
>
>> On Sat, Sep  4, 2010 at 22:34:39 +0900, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
>>
>>> clive needs a small patch to handle changed URLs on vimeo.com[1].
>>> I prepared an upload based on the version currently in unstable 
>>> (which is already unblocked).
>>>
>> Sounds like one of those packages that can't keep working for the 
>> lifetime of a stable release.  Should we ship this in stable at all? 
>> (Same question for youtube-dl btw.)
>
>libquvi and cclive (which uses the former) should also have the same 
>problem.
>
>The patches to cope with changed URLs are usually quite small and 
>should be safe to include in a stable update.  Maybe we could use 
>volatile.d.o to make updates available faster.  I have never used it 
>before myself, but `debian-volatile is not "just another place" for 
>backports, but should only contain changes to stable programs that are 
>necessary to keep them functional.'[1] reads like the program should be 
>in stable if updates should be provided via volatile.  Please correct 
>me if I am wrong.

I believe the separation of quvi and cclive makes only quvi relevant for 
volatile.


 - Jonas

-- 
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Added tag(s) moreinfo. Request was from Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Sat, 04 Sep 2010 20:30:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Bug#595491; Package release.debian.org. (Mon, 06 Sep 2010 09:21:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #23 received at 595491@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org>
To: 595491@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#497401: Bug#595473: does not depend on dbus
Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2010 11:20:11 +0200
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On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 01:10:28PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
> clone 595473 -1
> Actually it's libunique that wants dbus unconditionally if compiled with
> dbus support.  It does have other backends, too, but no way to catch
> this error or to set another backend at runtime.  It thus breaks related
> applications when invoking libunique.
> 
> libunique must thus depend on both dbus and dbus-x11.  This is also
> somewhat a clone of #497401.

Turning off DBUS would break the ABI, AFAICS.  So I guess depending on dbus it
is.

(As bacon's already turned on according to the build log, I still wonder why
there's no sane fallback in this case...)

Kind regards,
Philipp Kern
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Message #28 received at 595491@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org>
To: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>, 595491@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@2008.43-1.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#595491: future unblock: clive/2.2.13-3
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 15:44:22 +0200
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On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 04:20:54PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
> Sounds like one of those packages that can't keep working for the
> lifetime of a stable release.  Should we ship this in stable at all?
> (Same question for youtube-dl btw.)

This decision will be deferred until the release team meeting next
weekend.  (I.e. until the decision about the scope of volatile.)

Sorry for the delay.

Kind regards,
Philipp Kern

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Bug#595491; Package release.debian.org. (Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:06:03 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@43-1.org>:
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Message #33 received at 595491@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@43-1.org>
To: 595491@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Sven Hoexter <sven@timegate.de>
Subject: Re: Bug#595491: unblock: clive/2.2.13-3
Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 10:02:52 +0200
retitle 595491 unblock: clive/2.2.13-3
thanks

Philipp Kern <pkern@debian.org> writes:

> On Sat, Sep 04, 2010 at 04:20:54PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
>> Sounds like one of those packages that can't keep working for the
>> lifetime of a stable release.  Should we ship this in stable at all?
>> (Same question for youtube-dl btw.)
>
> This decision will be deferred until the release team meeting next
> weekend.  (I.e. until the decision about the scope of volatile.)

It looks like this happened now[1].  Given that the release team wants
to integrate volatile into the main repository, can clive be allowed to
migrate to testing now?

Regards,
Ansgar

[1] <http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/10/msg00002.html>




Changed Bug title to 'unblock: clive/2.2.13-3' from 'future unblock: clive/2.2.13-3' Request was from Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@43-1.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Sun, 10 Oct 2010 08:06:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Reply sent to Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>:
You have taken responsibility. (Sat, 16 Oct 2010 12:33:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #40 received at 595491-done@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Julien Cristau <jcristau@debian.org>
To: Ansgar Burchardt <ansgar@43-1.org>, 595491-done@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Sven Hoexter <sven@timegate.de>
Subject: Re: Bug#595491: unblock: clive/2.2.13-3
Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 14:29:28 +0200
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On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 10:02:52 +0200, Ansgar Burchardt wrote:

> retitle 595491 unblock: clive/2.2.13-3

Done.

Cheers,
Julien
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