Debian Bug report logs - #587929
RFP: bombardier-core-1.00 -- Open Source Configuration management and package delivery (shared components)

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: Peter Banka <peter.banka@gmail.com>

Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 21:27:02 UTC

Severity: wishlist

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Bug#587929; Package wnpp. (Fri, 02 Jul 2010 21:27:04 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Peter Banka <peter.banka@gmail.com>
To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: ITP: bombardier-core-1.00 -- Open Source Configuration management and package delivery (shared components)
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:36:12 -0700
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Peter Banka <peter.banka@gmail.com>


* Package name    : bombardier-core-1.00
  Version         : 1.0.762
  Upstream Author : Peter Banka <peter.banka@gmail.com>
* URL             : http://www.bombardierinstaller.org/
* License         : BSD
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description     : Open Source Configuration management and package delivery (shared components)

Bombardier is a software system that delivers visibility, control
and automation to datacenter environments. Bombardier provides a means
for changes to be rolled out to a network of servers in a highly
controlled way, providing optimum security, logging, centralized
change control.




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Bug#587929; Package wnpp. (Mon, 05 Jul 2010 10:45:07 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org>:
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Message #10 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org>
To: Peter Banka <peter.banka@gmail.com>, 587929@bugs.debian.org
Cc: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#587929: ITP: bombardier-core-1.00 -- Open Source Configuration management and package delivery (shared components)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 12:08:04 +0200
Hi,

On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 01:36:12PM -0700, Peter Banka wrote:

> * Package name    : bombardier-core-1.00

The "1.00" bit means that multiple versions will be maintained
independently (for long term support etc)?

> Bombardier is a software system that delivers visibility, control
> and automation to datacenter environments. Bombardier provides a means
> for changes to be rolled out to a network of servers in a highly
> controlled way, providing optimum security, logging, centralized
> change control.

Okay, but what does it do? This is a bunch of buzzwords :/

   Simon




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Acknowledgement sent to Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org>:
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Bug#587929; Package wnpp. (Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:03:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Peter Banka <peter.banka@gmail.com>:
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Message #20 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Peter Banka <peter.banka@gmail.com>
To: Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org>
Cc: 587929@bugs.debian.org, Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>
Subject: Re: Bug#587929: ITP: bombardier-core-1.00 -- Open Source Configuration management and package delivery (shared components)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 09:00:34 -0700
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What does it really do: Right now it's a command-line system that allows a
guy to manage a whole bunch of computers in his datacenter over ssh. Compare
to Chef or ControlTier. For common tasks such as deploying software or
making minor changes to system configuration, this tool can make these tasks
a lot faster and a lot more reliable. The basic approach is to drive
automated SSH sessions over expect.

There are three major pieces of code to this thing: a "client," which runs
on the computers you want to manage, a "server" which runs under Apache and
provides a ReST interface, and a "CLI" which provide a Cisco-style
command-line interface for driving the whole thing. This particular package
is just the shared components between the three of them. We thought we'd
package this up first because it's the simplest.

Thanks for your help. Hope this is what you're after. I'll be happy to
answer any additional questions. If this goes okay, we'll submit three more
packages for the components I described above.
--Peter


On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 3:08 AM, Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Fri, Jul 02, 2010 at 01:36:12PM -0700, Peter Banka wrote:
>
> > * Package name    : bombardier-core-1.00
>
> The "1.00" bit means that multiple versions will be maintained
> independently (for long term support etc)?
>
> > Bombardier is a software system that delivers visibility, control
> > and automation to datacenter environments. Bombardier provides a means
> > for changes to be rolled out to a network of servers in a highly
> > controlled way, providing optimum security, logging, centralized
> > change control.
>
> Okay, but what does it do? This is a bunch of buzzwords :/
>
>   Simon
>
[Message part 2 (text/html, inline)]

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Bug#587929; Package wnpp. (Tue, 06 Jul 2010 16:03:08 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Peter Banka <peter.banka@gmail.com>:
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Bug#587929; Package wnpp. (Wed, 07 Jul 2010 07:48:05 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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Message #30 received at 587929@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org>
To: Peter Banka <peter.banka@gmail.com>
Cc: 587929@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#587929: ITP: bombardier-core-1.00 -- Open Source Configuration management and package delivery (shared components)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 09:45:14 +0200
Hi,

On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 09:00:34AM -0700, Peter Banka wrote:

> Thanks for your help. Hope this is what you're after. I'll be happy to
> answer any additional questions. If this goes okay, we'll submit three more
> packages for the components I described above.

My point is that the description should not be a sales pitch, but rather
an objective account of what the software can and cannot do. Think of it
from the point of view of the administrator tasked with deciding which
software to use -- most likely she won't care that this is the most
"flexible" solution, but rather whether it will get the job done.

While packages are a great way of reducing the time to install the
software, it still requires a lot of time to try out a particular piece
of software. I generally start with those that I know have the features
I require, which should be clear from the description.

   Simon




Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#587929; Package wnpp. (Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:33:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Peter Banka <peter.banka@gmail.com>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to wnpp@debian.org. (Wed, 07 Jul 2010 16:33:06 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #35 received at 587929@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Peter Banka <peter.banka@gmail.com>
To: Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org>
Cc: 587929@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#587929: ITP: bombardier-core-1.00 -- Open Source Configuration management and package delivery (shared components)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 09:30:48 -0700
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
Thanks very much for the feedback. I'm happy to follow your advice 100%.
Just not clear what I should do next. Shall I re-submit the ITP with the
more "down to earth" description that I sent in the previous email?

Regards,
--Peter

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 12:45 AM, Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Jul 06, 2010 at 09:00:34AM -0700, Peter Banka wrote:
>
> > Thanks for your help. Hope this is what you're after. I'll be happy to
> > answer any additional questions. If this goes okay, we'll submit three
> more
> > packages for the components I described above.
>
> My point is that the description should not be a sales pitch, but rather
> an objective account of what the software can and cannot do. Think of it
> from the point of view of the administrator tasked with deciding which
> software to use -- most likely she won't care that this is the most
> "flexible" solution, but rather whether it will get the job done.
>
> While packages are a great way of reducing the time to install the
> software, it still requires a lot of time to try out a particular piece
> of software. I generally start with those that I know have the features
> I require, which should be clear from the description.
>
>   Simon
>
[Message part 2 (text/html, inline)]

Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org, Peter Banka <peter.banka@gmail.com>:
Bug#587929; Package wnpp. (Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:45:09 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to wnpp@debian.org, Peter Banka <peter.banka@gmail.com>. (Thu, 08 Jul 2010 07:45:10 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #40 received at 587929@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org>
To: Peter Banka <peter.banka@gmail.com>
Cc: 587929@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#587929: ITP: bombardier-core-1.00 -- Open Source Configuration management and package delivery (shared components)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 09:43:33 +0200
Hi,

On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:30:48AM -0700, Peter Banka wrote:

> Thanks very much for the feedback. I'm happy to follow your advice 100%.
> Just not clear what I should do next. Shall I re-submit the ITP with the
> more "down to earth" description that I sent in the previous email?

No, just use the new description. The ITP bug has no technical meaning,
it is just to avoid having two people work on the same package and catch
some things like weird licences early on (because the initial mail is
copied to the developer mailing list), but technically it is a bug the
maintainer opens and closes, with no one else involved.

   Simon




Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org:
Bug#587929; Package wnpp. (Thu, 08 Jul 2010 16:30:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Peter Banka <peter.banka@gmail.com>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to wnpp@debian.org. (Thu, 08 Jul 2010 16:30:02 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #45 received at 587929@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Peter Banka <peter.banka@gmail.com>
To: Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org>
Cc: 587929@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: Bug#587929: ITP: bombardier-core-1.00 -- Open Source Configuration management and package delivery (shared components)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 09:27:15 -0700
[Message part 1 (text/plain, inline)]
Got it. Will do. Thanks for your advice.

--Peter

On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 12:43 AM, Simon Richter <sjr@debian.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Jul 07, 2010 at 09:30:48AM -0700, Peter Banka wrote:
>
> > Thanks very much for the feedback. I'm happy to follow your advice 100%.
> > Just not clear what I should do next. Shall I re-submit the ITP with the
> > more "down to earth" description that I sent in the previous email?
>
> No, just use the new description. The ITP bug has no technical meaning,
> it is just to avoid having two people work on the same package and catch
> some things like weird licences early on (because the initial mail is
> copied to the developer mailing list), but technically it is a bug the
> maintainer opens and closes, with no one else involved.
>
>   Simon
>
[Message part 2 (text/html, inline)]

Information forwarded to debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org, wnpp@debian.org, Peter Banka <peter.banka@gmail.com>:
Bug#587929; Package wnpp. (Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:17:38 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Acknowledgement sent to Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org>:
Extra info received and forwarded to list. Copy sent to wnpp@debian.org, Peter Banka <peter.banka@gmail.com>. (Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:17:38 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Message #50 received at 587929@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org>
To: 587929@bugs.debian.org
Cc: control@bugs.debian.org
Subject: bombardier-core-1.00: changing back from ITP to RFP
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:08:11 +0000
retitle 587929 RFP: bombardier-core-1.00 -- Open Source Configuration management and package delivery (shared components)
noowner 587929
thanks

Hi,

This is an automatic email to change the status of bombardier-core-1.00 back from ITP
(Intent to Package) to RFP (Request for Package), because this bug hasn't seen
any activity during the last 6 months.

If you are still interested in adopting bombardier-core-1.00, please send a mail to
<control@bugs.debian.org> with:

 retitle 587929 ITP: bombardier-core-1.00 -- Open Source Configuration management and package delivery (shared components)
 owner 587929 !
 thanks

However, it is not recommended to keep ITP for a long time without acting on
the package, as it might cause other prospective maintainers to refrain from
packaging that software. It is also a good idea to document your progress on
this ITP from time to time, by mailing <587929@bugs.debian.org>.

Thank you for your interest in Debian,
-- 
Lucas, for the QA team <debian-qa@lists.debian.org>




Changed Bug title to 'RFP: bombardier-core-1.00 -- Open Source Configuration management and package delivery (shared components)' from 'ITP: bombardier-core-1.00 -- Open Source Configuration management and package delivery (shared components)' Request was from Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:18:57 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

Removed annotation that Bug was owned by Peter Banka <peter.banka@gmail.com>. Request was from Lucas Nussbaum <lucas@debian.org> to control@bugs.debian.org. (Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:18:57 GMT) Full text and rfc822 format available.

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