Debian Bug report logs - #586414
RFA: vnc4 -- Virtual network computing server software

Package: wnpp; Maintainer for wnpp is wnpp@debian.org;

Reported by: opal@debian.org

Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 10:42:05 UTC

Severity: normal

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From: Ola Lundqvist <opal@debian.org>
To: submit@bugs.debian.org
Subject: RFA: vnc4 -- Virtual network computing server software
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 12:39:11 +0200
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

Hi

I start to have a problem to maintain the number of packages
that I have in a good way so therefore I would like to give
away some packages.

The one taking over this package should also take over tightvnc.

Best regards,

// Ola


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From: Ben Armstrong <synrg@sanctuary.nslug.ns.ca>
To: opal@debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Cc: 586413@bugs.debian.org, 586414@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: RFA: a lot of packages
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 15:41:04 -0300
On 19/06/10 11:55 AM, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> Bug#586413: RFA: tightvnc -- virtual network computing server software
> Bug#586414: RFA: vnc4 -- Virtual network computing server software
>    

Although I cannot take on sole maintainership, I'm interested in the 
survival of the best VNC server and client in Debian.  If a team can be 
put together, I would be happy to contribute in what small ways I can.

What about eventual replacement by TigerVNC (http://tigervnc.org/), 
since upstream for that fork is actually active?

Ben





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From: Ola Lundqvist <ola@inguza.com>
To: Ben Armstrong <synrg@sanctuary.nslug.ns.ca>
Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, 586413@bugs.debian.org, 586414@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: RFA: a lot of packages
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 22:07:53 +0200
Hi Ben

On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 03:41:04PM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote:
> On 19/06/10 11:55 AM, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
>> Bug#586413: RFA: tightvnc -- virtual network computing server software
>> Bug#586414: RFA: vnc4 -- Virtual network computing server software
>>    
>
> Although I cannot take on sole maintainership, I'm interested in the  
> survival of the best VNC server and client in Debian.  If a team can be  
> put together, I would be happy to contribute in what small ways I can.
>
> What about eventual replacement by TigerVNC (http://tigervnc.org/),  
> since upstream for that fork is actually active?

I once started to package tigervnc in addition to the vnc4 and
tightvnc packages, but I had problems with crashes so I dumped
that attempt. But having an active upstream surely help in the
maintenance of the package.

Packaging of tigervnc with support for both client and server
part would be very nice. It would probably solve a few of the
current outstanding issues.

Best regards,

// Ola

> Ben
>
>

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From: Timo Juhani Lindfors <timo.lindfors@iki.fi>
To: Ben Armstrong <synrg@sanctuary.nslug.ns.ca>
Cc: opal@debian.org, debian-devel@lists.debian.org, 586413@bugs.debian.org, 586414@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: RFA: a lot of packages
Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2010 23:50:35 +0300
Ben Armstrong <synrg@sanctuary.nslug.ns.ca> writes:
> Although I cannot take on sole maintainership, I'm interested in the
> survival of the best VNC server and client in Debian.  If a team can
> be put together, I would be happy to contribute in what small ways I
> can.

I'm a daily user of vnc4server/xvnc4viewer 4.1.1+X4.3.0-31. Please let
me know if you need help in testing :-)

> What about eventual replacement by TigerVNC (http://tigervnc.org/),
> since upstream for that fork is actually active?

realvncserver, tightvncserver and vnc4server all seem to contain an
embedded copy of xfree/Xorg source code. If tigerVNC's Xorg module
actually works this sounds really promising. Any idea why it is not
developed in the Xorg tree? Is it still because Xorg does not want
GPL'd code?

The only earlier attempt on a modular Xorg vnc module I've heard about
is xf4vnc: http://xf4vnc.sourceforge.net/modular.html -- How does this
compare against TigerVNC?




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Message #25 received at 586414@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox):

From: Ola Lundqvist <ola@inguza.com>
To: Timo Juhani Lindfors <timo.lindfors@iki.fi>
Cc: Ben Armstrong <synrg@sanctuary.nslug.ns.ca>, debian-devel@lists.debian.org, 586413@bugs.debian.org, 586414@bugs.debian.org
Subject: Re: RFA: a lot of packages
Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2010 00:02:59 +0200
Hi

On Sat, Jun 19, 2010 at 11:50:35PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
> Ben Armstrong <synrg@sanctuary.nslug.ns.ca> writes:
> > Although I cannot take on sole maintainership, I'm interested in the
> > survival of the best VNC server and client in Debian.  If a team can
> > be put together, I would be happy to contribute in what small ways I
> > can.
> 
> I'm a daily user of vnc4server/xvnc4viewer 4.1.1+X4.3.0-31. Please let
> me know if you need help in testing :-)
> 
> > What about eventual replacement by TigerVNC (http://tigervnc.org/),
> > since upstream for that fork is actually active?
> 
> realvncserver, tightvncserver and vnc4server all seem to contain an
> embedded copy of xfree/Xorg source code. If tigerVNC's Xorg module
> actually works this sounds really promising. Any idea why it is not
> developed in the Xorg tree? Is it still because Xorg does not want
> GPL'd code?

Yes. License problems do not change over night.

> The only earlier attempt on a modular Xorg vnc module I've heard about
> is xf4vnc: http://xf4vnc.sourceforge.net/modular.html -- How does this
> compare against TigerVNC?

It compiles (with a few fixes), but I never got it working, at
least not in a compatible way to the current vnc packages.

I have not got either TigerVNC nor xf4vnc in a good enough way
for release. So I do not know.

Last try was a few (1-3 I do not remember) years ago though so
things may have changed.

Best regards,

// Ola

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 --- Inguza Technology AB --- MSc in Information Technology ----
/  ola@inguza.com                    Annebergsslingan 37        \
|  opal@debian.org                   654 65 KARLSTAD            |
|  http://inguza.com/                Mobile: +46 (0)70-332 1551 |
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