Debian Bug report logs - #583767
Add udeb

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Message #5 received at submit@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Loïc Minier <lool@dooz.org>

To: Debian Bug Tracking System <submit@bugs.debian.org>

Subject: Add udeb

Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 16:06:34 +0200

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Package: libxml2
Version: 2.7.7.dfsg-2
Severity: wishlist
Tags: patch
User: ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
Usertags: origin-ubuntu ubuntu-patch maverick

        Hi

 The attached patch adds an udeb to libxml2.

   Thanks for considering,
-- 
Loïc Minier

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Message #10 received at 583767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>

To: Loïc Minier <lool@dooz.org>, 583767@bugs.debian.org

Cc: debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 16:11:42 +0200

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 04:06:34PM +0200, Loïc Minier wrote:
> Package: libxml2
> Version: 2.7.7.dfsg-2
> Severity: wishlist
> Tags: patch
> User: ubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
> Usertags: origin-ubuntu ubuntu-patch maverick
> 
>         Hi
> 
>  The attached patch adds an udeb to libxml2.

Is there something in d-i that requires such a udeb ?

Mike

Message #15 received at 583767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Loïc Minier <lool@dooz.org>

To: Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>

Cc: 583767@bugs.debian.org, debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 16:35:23 +0200

On Sun, May 30, 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
> Is there something in d-i that requires such a udeb ?

 Not in Debian; we use it for an udeb called migration-assistant which
 imports documents and settings from existing operating systems (e.g.
 Windows).

   Thanks,
-- 
Loïc Minier

Message #20 received at 583767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>

To: Loïc Minier <lool@dooz.org>

Cc: 583767@bugs.debian.org, debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 16:40:47 +0200

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 04:35:23PM +0200, Loïc Minier wrote:
> On Sun, May 30, 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > Is there something in d-i that requires such a udeb ?
> 
>  Not in Debian; we use it for an udeb called migration-assistant which
>  imports documents and settings from existing operating systems (e.g.
>  Windows).

So, why should we add the udeb in Debian, exactly ?

Mike

PS: for sizes purpose, you should actually rebuild libxml2 with the
minimal set of options you require for your program. I doubt you need
all the APIs, especially the mostly deprecated ones.

Message #25 received at 583767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Loïc Minier <lool@dooz.org>

To: Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>

Cc: 583767@bugs.debian.org, debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 16:46:23 +0200

On Sun, May 30, 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
> So, why should we add the udeb in Debian, exactly ?

 It would be nice to carry it to minimize the delta between Debian and
 Ubuntu.

 It might also allow the use of migration-assistant, but I suspect it's
 not usable as is in Debian.

> PS: for sizes purpose, you should actually rebuild libxml2 with the
> minimal set of options you require for your program. I doubt you need
> all the APIs, especially the mostly deprecated ones.

 Ok; I'm not entirely sure of which features it needs, but I could work
 on this if you don't mind the extra build pass.

-- 
Loïc Minier

Message #30 received at 583767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>

To: Loïc Minier <lool@dooz.org>

Cc: 583767@bugs.debian.org, debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 16:52:35 +0200

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 04:46:23PM +0200, Loïc Minier wrote:
> On Sun, May 30, 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > So, why should we add the udeb in Debian, exactly ?
> 
>  It would be nice to carry it to minimize the delta between Debian and
>  Ubuntu.

I don't know if all udebs are automatically included in d-i, but if they
are, I doubt d-i people will like the additional 1.3MB uncompressed.

OT, but speaking of minimizing the delta between Debian and Ubuntu, the
following changes are pointless:
    - Link using -Bsymbolic-functions
    - Add missing zlib1g-dev to -dev
    - Build-depend on libreadline6-dev instead of libreadline5-dev.
(If you need to know why, please ping me off-list and off-bug)

>  It might also allow the use of migration-assistant, but I suspect it's
>  not usable as is in Debian.
> 
> > PS: for sizes purpose, you should actually rebuild libxml2 with the
> > minimal set of options you require for your program. I doubt you need
> > all the APIs, especially the mostly deprecated ones.
> 
>  Ok; I'm not entirely sure of which features it needs, but I could work
>  on this if you don't mind the extra build pass.

I don't, it's not like if it were xulrunner ;)

Mike

Message #35 received at 583767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Loïc Minier <lool@dooz.org>

To: Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>

Cc: 583767@bugs.debian.org, debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 17:06:40 +0200

On Sun, May 30, 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
>     - Link using -Bsymbolic-functions
>     - Add missing zlib1g-dev to -dev
>     - Build-depend on libreadline6-dev instead of libreadline5-dev.
> (If you need to know why, please ping me off-list and off-bug)

 Yes, I had already dropped all of them in the latest upload to Ubuntu
 maverick (2.7.7.dfsg-2ubuntu1); thanks

-- 
Loïc Minier

Message #40 received at 583767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Loïc Minier <lool@dooz.org>

To: Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>

Cc: 583767@bugs.debian.org, debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 17:31:46 +0200

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On Sun, May 30, 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
> PS: for sizes purpose, you should actually rebuild libxml2 with the
> minimal set of options you require for your program. I doubt you need
> all the APIs, especially the mostly deprecated ones.

 Here's a second patch on top of the first one adding a separate pass
 for the udeb.  I didn't actually test the runtime lib, but I did
 testbuild it and it produced the expected smaller files.
 Unfortunately, it probably conflicts with the python-dbg support
 changes.

   Thanks
-- 
Loïc Minier

[0002-Build-the-udeb-in-a-separate-pass.patch (text/x-diff, attachment)]

Message #45 received at 583767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Christian PERRIER <bubulle@debian.org>

To: Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>

Cc: Loïc Minier <lool@dooz.org>, 583767@bugs.debian.org, debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 18:58:54 +0200

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Quoting Mike Hommey (mh@glandium.org):

> I don't know if all udebs are automatically included in d-i, but if they
> are, I doubt d-i people will like the additional 1.3MB uncompressed.

They aren't automatically included.

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Message #50 received at 583767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Frans Pop <elendil@planet.nl>

To: debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Cc: Loïc Minier <lool@dooz.org>, 583767@bugs.debian.org, Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>

Subject: Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

Date: Sun, 30 May 2010 20:46:04 +0200

On Sunday 30 May 2010, Christian PERRIER wrote:
> Quoting Mike Hommey (mh@glandium.org):
> > I don't know if all udebs are automatically included in d-i, but if
> > they are, I doubt d-i people will like the additional 1.3MB
> > uncompressed.
>
> They aren't automatically included.

But udebs we don't use do need to be specifically excluded from inclusion 
on CD images (to keep the size of bc/netinst down as much as possible and 
to keep maximum space available for real packages on CD/DVD1).

There is a cost. But in this case I don't think the cost is high enough to 
object to the udeb.

Message #55 received at 583767@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Otavio Salvador <otavio@ossystems.com.br>

To: Loïc Minier <lool@dooz.org>

Cc: Mike Hommey <mh@glandium.org>, 583767@bugs.debian.org, debian-boot@lists.debian.org

Subject: Re: [xml/sgml-pkgs] Bug#583767: Add udeb

Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:56:34 -0300

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Hello Loic,

On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:46 AM, Loïc Minier <lool@dooz.org> wrote:

> On Sun, May 30, 2010, Mike Hommey wrote:
> > So, why should we add the udeb in Debian, exactly ?
>
>  It would be nice to carry it to minimize the delta between Debian and
>  Ubuntu.
>

I fully agree that is nice to reduce the delta between both projects, but
...


> IIt might also allow the use of migration-assistant, but I suspect it's
>  not usable as is in Debian.
>

I think that adding support to Debian to migration-assistent needs to be
done first so we don't have an useless udeb in archive in meanwhile.

Cheers,

-- 
Otavio Salvador                  O.S. Systems
E-mail: otavio@ossystems.com.br  http://www.ossystems.com.br
Mobile: +55 53 9981-7854         http://projetos.ossystems.com.br

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Message #62 received at 583767-close@bugs.debian.org (full text, mbox, reply):

From: Mike Hommey <glandium@debian.org>

To: 583767-close@bugs.debian.org

Subject: Bug#583767: fixed in libxml2 2.7.7.dfsg-4

Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 11:32:19 +0000

Source: libxml2
Source-Version: 2.7.7.dfsg-4

We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of
libxml2, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive:

libxml2-dbg_2.7.7.dfsg-4_amd64.deb
  to main/libx/libxml2/libxml2-dbg_2.7.7.dfsg-4_amd64.deb
libxml2-dev_2.7.7.dfsg-4_amd64.deb
  to main/libx/libxml2/libxml2-dev_2.7.7.dfsg-4_amd64.deb
libxml2-doc_2.7.7.dfsg-4_all.deb
  to main/libx/libxml2/libxml2-doc_2.7.7.dfsg-4_all.deb
libxml2-utils_2.7.7.dfsg-4_amd64.deb
  to main/libx/libxml2/libxml2-utils_2.7.7.dfsg-4_amd64.deb
libxml2_2.7.7.dfsg-4.diff.gz
  to main/libx/libxml2/libxml2_2.7.7.dfsg-4.diff.gz
libxml2_2.7.7.dfsg-4.dsc
  to main/libx/libxml2/libxml2_2.7.7.dfsg-4.dsc
libxml2_2.7.7.dfsg-4_amd64.deb
  to main/libx/libxml2/libxml2_2.7.7.dfsg-4_amd64.deb
python-libxml2-dbg_2.7.7.dfsg-4_amd64.deb
  to main/libx/libxml2/python-libxml2-dbg_2.7.7.dfsg-4_amd64.deb
python-libxml2_2.7.7.dfsg-4_amd64.deb
  to main/libx/libxml2/python-libxml2_2.7.7.dfsg-4_amd64.deb



A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is
attached.

Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed.  If you
have further comments please address them to 583767@bugs.debian.org,
and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate.

Debian distribution maintenance software
pp.
Mike Hommey <glandium@debian.org> (supplier of updated libxml2 package)

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Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2010 12:42:35 +0200
Source: libxml2
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Architecture: source amd64 all
Version: 2.7.7.dfsg-4
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Debian XML/SGML Group <debian-xml-sgml-pkgs@lists.alioth.debian.org>
Changed-By: Mike Hommey <glandium@debian.org>
Description: 
 libxml2    - GNOME XML library
 libxml2-dbg - Debugging symbols for the GNOME XML library
 libxml2-dev - Development files for the GNOME XML library
 libxml2-doc - Documentation for the GNOME XML library
 libxml2-utils - XML utilities
 python-libxml2 - Python bindings for the GNOME XML library
 python-libxml2-dbg - Python bindings for the GNOME XML library (debug extension)
Closes: 583767
Changes: 
 libxml2 (2.7.7.dfsg-4) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   * debian/rules:
     - Use a variable to express which sub-targets to invoke for
       configure/build/install.
     - Refactor configure-% and build-% rules.
     - Avoid possible renaming of _d.so files to _d_d.so files in the
       install-python%-dbg rules.
   * debian/control, debian/control.udeb, debian/libxml2-udeb.install,
     debian/rules: Add an udeb package when building for Ubuntu.
     Closes: #583767.
   * debian/control:
     - Remove old Conflicts/Replaces for packages that have disappeared before
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